Melta is the only viable weapon

[The Roach]

Anything else is actively trolling the squad.

[Steinar]

Thanks for letting us know your opinion.

[Jarges]

Bait used to be believable.

[Xarko]

Not really clown worthy but I think you might a page or two

[The Roach]

Bolters are fine on 1 and 2, but beyond that they are utter trash, especially when dealing with hordes of Majoris enemies or any Extremis enemy.

[Angelis Mortis]

The Emperor commands you to git gud

[DisposableHero78]

Good luck killing LvL 3 or 4 Zoanthrope shield couples or Neurothropes, when your "almighty" Melta can't even reach them in many cases.

Good luck in disrupting screamers, calling for reinforcements while they are 50m+ away from you when all your team has are Meltas an no one can reach them in time.T

Good luck killing heretics with sniper rifles, sitting on far away latches and balconies, piercing your armor and disrupting every of your actions while you can't do sh*t against them.

There is a use and a way to play any weapon sensible in this game. If you can only master one, thats a YOU problem. L2P and git gut, pleb.

[rases]

Buffed Plasma > exploit-fixed Melta.

The only weapon that I actively don't like when dealing with hordes is the dagger. You don't need melta now that it's so easy to heal up going full melee during a horde.

[Xarko]

Postat inițial de DisposableHero78:

Good luck killing LvL 3 or 4 Zoanthrope shield couples or Neurothropes, when your "almighty" Melta can't even reach them in many cases.

Good luck in disrupting screamers, calling for reinforcements while they are 50m+ away from you when all your team has are Meltas an no one can reach them in time.T

Good luck killing heretics with sniper rifles, sitting on far away latches and balconies, piercing your armor and disrupting every of your actions while you can't do sh*t against them.

There is a use and a way to play any weapon sensible in this game. If you can only master one, thats a YOU problem. L2P and git gut, pleb.

Well I mean he still has a pistol so that's not really a great counter argument.

[DisposableHero78]

And it takes how many magazines of a pistoal to kill a screaming majoris or Zoanthropes or Neurothropes? Even if your regular side arm is maxed out buffed, it will take way to long to break a screamer or kill harder enemies. It is possible, but very time consuming.

[The Roach]

Postat inițial de DisposableHero78:

Good luck killing LvL 3 or 4 Zoanthrope shield couples or Neurothropes, when your "almighty" Melta can't even reach them in many cases.

Good luck in disrupting screamers, calling for reinforcements while they are 50m+ away from you when all your team has are Meltas an no one can reach them in time.T

Good luck killing heretics with sniper rifles, sitting on far away latches and balconies, piercing your armor and disrupting every of your actions while you can't do sh*t against them.

There is a use and a way to play any weapon sensible in this game. If you can only master one, thats a YOU problem. L2P and git gut, pleb.

Like the other guy said, a relic plasma with charged shots makes it trivial.

[Alasthor]

No, it's juste that it's the only weapon that allow you to deal with horde quickly, which in turn allow you to focus on the majoris target to trigger the perfect parry, in which the game is way too oriented for it's own good.

But this weapon can't really deal that well with extremis target and above as it can't trigger critical hit, while my plasma pistol can do better (just limited by ammo) and even bolt weapon does better if you can crit. And I talking from a multi-melta point of view.
Which is ironic, condidering that melta are supposed to vaporised flesh and metal alike, and is considered as an anti-tank weapon, rather than an anti-personal weapon.

Overall, the greatest problem of this game is that the opposition is categorized by his health pool, rather than having some strategy and weapon design to down them (Ex: in Darktide , mob are unarmored, flak or carapaced. Some weapon are better to deal with them than other and mob don't need to have an heal pool that will suck 90% of your weapon reserve to down them).

At this point, game need a serious rework of weapon and enemies so we have weapons effective against certain target and limited in other domain.

Just my 2 cents (but no, Melta is just easy to use, not the best option if there's any).

[Xarko]

I think the real issue with bolt weapons is you have to headshot with all of them and I mean you F*CKING HAVE TO. The headshot damage bonus is apparently 300% which is pretty crazy and the whole bolt family is balanced around kill time doing headshot.

I think it would help a good deal if they just renute this so headshot do a regular 100% increase and buff the body shots to compensate.

Say the situation right now is:
1dmg body shot, 4dmg headshot
changed to:
2dmg body shot, 4dmg headshot

Then go to perks and change all the +10% headshot damage to +10% damage and only keep the headshot perks on weapons like pistols, stalker, sniper etc. and make it +15%.

This way bolt weapons would get a small dmg buff, but more importantly become much more user friendly. I mean it's a damn rocket launcher why should I NEED to aim for a head?

[Ashrock]

One day people will realize that this game isn't a shooter with melee, but a melee game with guns. Bolters are long range accuracy meant to whittle down the mobs as they approach, plasmas mid range small aoe, meltas are short range aoe, then boom melee. No matter what you do your gonna get in a brawl. When you start treating the game as such, it gets so much funner and easier.

[Ahriman]

Might want to change your key word here. Melta is not the only viable weapon, it is just the only one that doesn't require any time to learn or skill to use. In most cases I have seen Melta players running around, they have been a massive detriment to the team as they waste entire shots on 2+ Gaunts, and entire mags on a few Warriors, only to immediately go down the second they have to reload.

Let's just say you can tell the difference between your average Melta user, and someone rocking onto Ruthless with a 'sub-optimal' weapon. Hint, the latter tends to be able to contribute to the fighting.

[Huntard]

Postat inițial de Endy:

Bolters are fine on 1 and 2, but beyond that they are utter trash, especially when dealing with hordes of Majoris enemies or any Extremis enemy.

bruh the HEAVY BOLTER machine gun do less damage than a plastic toy