Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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Vince Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:00am
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Darktide is vastly superior to Space Marine 2
Darktide excels in nearly every aspect, with the only exception being the absence of Astartes. But since I’m not a die-hard 40K fan, that doesn’t bother me at all.

Graphically, Darktide is a clear winner. I could write an essay about it, but a quick comparison of videos or images, or better yet, playing both games, will show you the difference. If you confuse a background filled with explosions and flying bugs for visual brilliance, I get why you might think SM2’s dated graphics are superior.

When it comes to gameplay, Darktide takes the lead again. The game offers a much wider variety of enemies and weapons, each with its own distinct feel and strategy. Unlike SM2, where everything feels repetitive ("sameness" might as well be SM2’s middle name), Darktide’s weapons, from chainswords to thunderhammers to lasguns, all play differently. Each Special and Elite enemy poses unique challenges, unlike the cookie-cutter encounters in SM2. The same goes for classes: an Ogryn plays entirely differently from a Psyker, a Zealot, or a Veteran. Plus, the skill trees allow for even more customization, making each class feel unique. There's simply no comparison.

In terms of quality, Darktide is on another level. The game feels like a true AAA experience, from the visceral impact of a hammer crushing a skull to the satisfaction of a Psyker exploding a brain or an Ogryn crashing through a horde. SM2, on the other hand, offers a handful of enemies that all suffer from the same lackluster, impactless combat. It's just mediocre ("mediocre" might be SM2’s maiden name, by the way).

And let’s talk price: Darktide launched at $40, while SM2 hit the shelves at $60.

"But no Astartes!" I can already hear someone complaining in the distance. Sure, that's true, but in every other regard, Darktide is the superior game.

Why compare the two? Because I’m tired of seeing Darktide stuck with a “Mixed” review score, despite most reviewers having logged 100+ hours, while SM2 somehow hit the jackpot with the current trend of praising this mediocre pile of junk. In other words: this post is made for therapeutic reasons. 😂
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Grim@FU_BARRACUDA Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:03am 
To be fair, you have to keep in mind that Darktide is also a lot older. They had far more time ti refine everything ;-)
AddledCorpse Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:04am 
Darktide sucks, way too grindy, no PVP, and difficulties comer with no bonuses. It sux
NITRO Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:04am 
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Originally posted by Vince:
In other words: this post is made for therapeutic reasons. 😂

How about you take the time you took writing this walltext of stupidity and search for actual therapy instead?
Brilliantix Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:05am 
and Darktide has perfectly supported an Ultrawide 32:9 from the beginning
dataLust Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:05am 
wow, sick
yeah like darktide is pretty good but i myself can't stand it for mtx and being in first person making gameplay feel very dull to me
BenShinobi Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by Xenohunter617:
To be fair, you have to keep in mind that Darktide is also a lot older. They had far more time ti refine everything ;-)

DT also NEEDED a lot more time post release to make the game what it is today. Only with the recent weapon progression overhaul would I say it now feels like its features are fairly well fleshed out. SM2 needs more content, but it's not missing significant chunks of features like DT was on release.

In any case, I like both games. More than enough room to enjoy both.
NITRO Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by BenShinobi:
Originally posted by Xenohunter617:
To be fair, you have to keep in mind that Darktide is also a lot older. They had far more time ti refine everything ;-)

DT also NEEDED a lot more time post release to make the game what it is today. Only with the recent weapon progression overhaul would I say it now feels like its features are fairly well fleshed out. SM2 needs more content, but it's not missing significant chunks of features like DT was on release.

In any case, I like both games. More than enough room to enjoy both.

Took them 2 years to basically get the game at what it should have been at launch, they tried 3 times to rework the weapon progression system and its still not cutting it.
The gameplay while in mission can be cool, but everything else sucks and they added all that mtx on top of it.

Its quite sad because now theres barely 4k people playing that game daily before this update and all that's left are overzealous fanboys who swear that the game is perfectly fine the way it is.

Also in 2 years they added 2 new maps to the game and thats it.
Last edited by NITRO; Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:11am
Vince Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:11am 
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Originally posted by BenShinobi:
Originally posted by Xenohunter617:
To be fair, you have to keep in mind that Darktide is also a lot older. They had far more time ti refine everything ;-)

DT also NEEDED a lot more time post release to make the game what it is today. Only with the recent weapon progression overhaul would I say it now feels like its features are fairly well fleshed out. SM2 needs more content, but it's not missing significant chunks of features like DT was on release.

In any case, I like both games. More than enough room to enjoy both.

Agreed. Darktide is finally fleshed out after the latest addition. That said, most complaints about the game (including this one imo) all only came to light ENDGAME. Let that detonate in your brain for a second: Most people thoroughly enjoy Darktide until they hit level 30 and then felt it became an unnecessary grind. That's literally dozens of hours in, which explains the ridiculously entitled and hypocritical 100+ hours negative reviews.

SM2, on the other hand, showed me absolutely everything it had to offer after the tutorial, which was a painful realization when the campaign credits rolled 6,5 hours later.
Last edited by Vince; Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:12am
Sothis Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:12am 
"My dad can beat up your dad" gamer edition
Grim@FU_BARRACUDA Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by BenShinobi:
Originally posted by Xenohunter617:
To be fair, you have to keep in mind that Darktide is also a lot older. They had far more time ti refine everything ;-)

DT also NEEDED a lot more time post release to make the game what it is today. Only with the recent weapon progression overhaul would I say it now feels like its features are fairly well fleshed out. SM2 needs more content, but it's not missing significant chunks of features like DT was on release.

In any case, I like both games. More than enough room to enjoy both.

Darktide was already a great game in the beta with is core gameplay alone and i would prefer it always over SM2 so far. But that does not mean that SM2 could not improve. But i think that Saber is lacking the motivation, passion and ideas to come even close to what Darktide is. Darktide is like ... You know what, you should read the dev blog of Darktide to get it. I give you one example of it ...

Read the following and watch the videos ...

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/darktide-101-enemy-design-and-prototyping-dev-blog/98452

Saber is miles away from something like this !!!
Based Legionary™ Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:14am 
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♥♥♥♥ no

Go back to that MTX riddled grindfest with lacking customization

We need another darktide, but this time made by a AA studio that isn't a greedy with a established fanbase that supports them in their bad behavior, also please get rid of the quirky millenial type characters, i want to be a professional guardsman/tempestus scion, not whatever the ♥♥♥♥ the darktide characters are
L!z4rD Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:22am 
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I got both, and yes, sir, Darktide is a better game. I wanted SM2 was better, I wanted to enjoy it, but I can not get the same satisfaction playing SM2 than Dt.

Mainly because SM2 is full of bugs, connection problems that make you lose all your progression, and still a combat system that needs a lot of polish. I know that it has just been released, but, man, IT COSTS 60 fraggin euros.

When you charge 60 euros for a game, IT HAS TO BE FINISHED when released. IT HAS TO BE.

The problem is that games companies made selling unfinished, unpolished games for 60 euros THE STANDARD.

That stupid market policy must end ASAP.

By the way, yesterday DArktide rolled out the latest update and it was fantastic, rehauling the weapon itemization system completely, making the game a lot more enjoyable. THe patch got several problems, but most of them were adressed YESTERDAY AFTERNOON in a hotfix.
L!z4rD Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Based Legionary™:
♥♥♥♥ no

Go back to that MTX riddled grindfest with lacking customization

We need another darktide, but this time made by a AA studio that isn't a greedy with a established fanbase that supports them in their bad behavior, also please get rid of the quirky millenial type characters, i want to be a professional guardsman/tempestus scion, not whatever the ♥♥♥♥ the darktide characters are


GAmpleay mechanics >>>>>> customization.

And gameplay mechanics from Dt >>>>>>> SM2.

Fact.
Rasluka Sep 27, 2024 @ 4:28am 
Originally posted by L!z4rD:
I got both, and yes, sir, Darktide is a better game. I wanted SM2 was better, I wanted to enjoy it, but I can not get the same satisfaction playing SM2 than Dt.

Mainly because SM2 is full of bugs, connection problems that make you lose all your progression, and still a combat system that needs a lot of polish. I know that it has just been released, but, man, IT COSTS 60 fraggin euros.

When you charge 60 euros for a game, IT HAS TO BE FINISHED when released. IT HAS TO BE.

The problem is that games companies made selling unfinished, unpolished games for 60 euros THE STANDARD.

That stupid market policy must end ASAP.

By the way, yesterday DArktide rolled out the latest update and it was fantastic, rehauling the weapon itemization system completely, making the game a lot more enjoyable. THe patch got several problems, but most of them were adressed YESTERDAY AFTERNOON in a hotfix.

Unfinished games costing 60 euros is the standard because people let it be the standard.
They know they can do it because people still buy it and worse defend it. The whole cycle continues forever
1. It's in beta, it will be fixed on release!
2. It's only just released, it will be fixed in the next patch!
3. It's still broken, but at least it's better than it used to be!
4. They'll fix it in the next game! I will pre-order it!
Repeat
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