Tactical marine cannot parry

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

They have completely messed up the tactical marine in the last micropatch, or something is seriously wrong, as the tactical marine can no longer parry at all. You time it perfectly, and all he does is block. getting stun locked into oblivion is getting old and its now impossible to finish a mission as a tactical marine.

[Aradner]

since you didn't mention in in the post, so I will go out and guess: did you take the sword with "block" defence type?

[necuz]

You're aware that the parry depends on your melee weapon, yeah? They are either blocking/balanced/fencing.

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

Originally posted by Aradner:

since you didn't mention in in the post, so I will go out and guess: did you take the sword with "block" defence type?

I am using the standard chainsword, I have always been able to parry with it, and I can time my parries perfectly with every other class.

[QtheVampire]

equip a 'fencing' type melee weapon and never look back

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

Originally posted by QtheVampire:

equip a 'fencing' type melee weapon and never look back

the only weapon available to tactical marine is the chainsword...

[Aradner]

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

Originally posted by Aradner:

since you didn't mention in in the post, so I will go out and guess: did you take the sword with "block" defence type?

I am using the standard chainsword, I have always been able to parry with it, and I can time my parries perfectly with every other class.

So you did not pick up an upgrade that buffed your damage, but changed the Chainsword's defence stat to "block"? And you can use this specific variant of chainsword on other classes and parry succesfully?

[Kunakic]

They are talking about upgrades to the weapon. They can change how the weapon parries or blocks. With Fencing giving you a larger window to parry and block being just what it says.

[pRaX]

Weird. Works fine here.

[Orthrus Dragon]

I completely disagree, I have not been having any difficulties on my tactical marine, and thats my primary character. Working fine here.

[Orthrus Dragon]

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

Originally posted by QtheVampire:

equip a 'fencing' type melee weapon and never look back

the only weapon available to tactical marine is the chainsword...

Each weapon has 3 types for its defense move "Balanced" which does what it says, "Block" which sacrifices your Parry for more damage, and "Fencing" which amps up the parry window.

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

Originally posted by Brother Orthrus:

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

the only weapon available to tactical marine is the chainsword...

Each weapon has 3 types for its defense move "Balanced" which does what it says, "Block" which sacrifices your Parry for more damage, and "Fencing" which amps up the parry window.

no wonder I was getting absolutely clapped by everything.

Why the hell would anyone choose block? it makes you basically just a sitting duck and unable to get any momentum.

[Player]

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

Originally posted by Brother Orthrus:

Each weapon has 3 types for its defense move "Balanced" which does what it says, "Block" which sacrifices your Parry for more damage, and "Fencing" which amps up the parry window.

no wonder I was getting absolutely clapped by everything.

Why the hell would anyone choose block? it makes you basically just a sitting duck and unable to get any momentum.

Because gun strikes are very VERY risky right now, and dodging still works. Why would I give up damage just to hit "c" instead of "space" when I can still hit "space" either way?

The problem with gun strikes is two fold:

1) They don't give immunity frames, you can still be hit by attacks. Including attacks from...
2) They don't interrupt the attacks of the target, so the target can still hit you while you're gun striking it.

[Nuu]

No he is completely right even with the relic fencing chain sword, the tactical struggles to parry and sometimes will block instead, its bugged, before the patch, the tactical was working fine, but for some reason, hes struggling to parry now, feels like at least the relic fencing weapon as been changed to a balance weapon, but the UI isn't updated

[Modern Colonial]

Can confirm the tactical with fencing chainsword doesn't seem to have as big a parry window as my vanguard with the same sword. Something is off.
And no I'm not using the perk thar increases parry timing.

Originally posted by Player:

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

no wonder I was getting absolutely clapped by everything.

Why the hell would anyone choose block? it makes you basically just a sitting duck and unable to get any momentum.

Because gun strikes are very VERY risky right now, and dodging still works. Why would I give up damage just to hit "c" instead of "space" when I can still hit "space" either way?

The problem with gun strikes is two fold:

1) They don't give immunity frames, you can still be hit by attacks. Including attacks from...
2) They don't interrupt the attacks of the target, so the target can still hit you while you're gun striking it.

Vs majoris and up a gun strike will break the enemy out of their animation and any enemy around them will be slightly staggered, it's very safe
Its only dangerous to gun strike a small enemy
A well timed parry vs small enemies will just kill them outright

[Dangerously Horny]

Originally posted by Modern Colonial:

Can confirm the tactical with fencing chainsword doesn't seem to have as big a parry window as my vanguard with the same sword. Something is off.
And no I'm not using the perk thar increases parry timing.

Originally posted by Player:

Because gun strikes are very VERY risky right now, and dodging still works. Why would I give up damage just to hit "c" instead of "space" when I can still hit "space" either way?

The problem with gun strikes is two fold:

1) They don't give immunity frames, you can still be hit by attacks. Including attacks from...
2) They don't interrupt the attacks of the target, so the target can still hit you while you're gun striking it.

Vs majoris and up a gun strike will break the enemy out of their animation and any enemy around them will be slightly staggered, it's very safe
Its only dangerous to gun strike a small enemy
A well timed parry vs small enemies will just kill them outright

I suspect the person you are responding to is having a bit more trouble because they admitted to relying more on dodge. Dodging can still produce gun strikes, but it does so without the slight knock back and interrupt first. Gun striking after a parry is almost always safe. Gun striking after a dodge often results in taking damage.