Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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sigina Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:10pm
What’s good about living in the 40K universe?
Even with its grim and dark vibe, are there any aspects or roles in the Warhammer 40K universe that might seem cool or beneficial? How could someone find something positive in such a harsh and chaotic universe?
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Darth Revan Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:22pm 
nothing is good about living in this universe, unless maybe if you are one of the 0.0001% of crazy rich nobles

its one of the most depressing universes ever created
Rockhorn Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:25pm 
Depends who you are. Orks love the existance in this universe. They are happy.
Fistful of Beans Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Rockhorn:
Depends who you are. Orks love the existance in this universe. They are happy.
Orks truly are the greatest threat in 40k. Not only do they have the numbers, but they are loving every minute of it.
Mister Magician Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Better to ask why the series has such an appeal. The simple answer is that even a poisoned well still has water for when you are dehydrated. That's it.

Like I said in another thread:
"The writers may intend it to be that way from a liberal perspective, but no other group in History would see them as anything but heroic.

This is just moderns trying to wrestle (and failing all the way) with anything outside of the flattening, absurd ethos of liberalism. It's why this series has ANY appeal at all, it's one of the only places in popular media you can find people acting Faithful or even Classically Heroic. That the writer may try to present it negatively to ease the already sore Consciences of the modern, millions devour the series like a starving man sucking moss off of a rock in the desert.

Evola's books are near universally banned (not in the sense of some sex novel not allowed to be at a school you can buy anywhere else for $5, but in the sense it's actually illegal to re-print or sell them as new) but he talks about this a lot. The most intelligent modern would be beaten by the most simple Middle Ages peasant in spiritual and intellectual matters, simply because the world they lived in is real whereas the world the modern lives in is totally manufactured."

or another from a month ago:
"Venerable Fulton Sheen recounted a story from one of the many Priests who did clandestine work in the ussr to secretly provide Mass and other services for the underground. A Priest in plainclothes was stopped at every point by people on the street who after finding out he was a Priest would demand that they could have a page of The Bible.

The Priest relented, and tore out one random page from one of his Bibles to give to each of the passersby. Each would just hold it in their hands, wide-eyed, rub it on their face, and then shove it in their mouths to suck off the ink and swallow the paper.

The Priest had no idea what was going on, but he went along with it. By the end of his week-long operation undercover in the ussr, all of his Bibles were gone and all that remained was the empty cover of one of them that he mistakenly left in his bag.

When the Priest was stopped at the border, a young red guard saw the Bible cover and called his superior. The aged commissar came in, gruffly took one look at the empty Bible with all the torn pages, bit off a chunk of the binding, and while chewing told the Priest that he would shoot him in the head if he didn't let him keep the cover. The Priest let the commissar keep the cover, and the commissar called ahead to tell none of his soldiers to even stop or look at the Priest sideways as he was given free passage over the border.

Sucking the moss off a stone (literally in this case) in a regime where food has been banned.

The most well-known and well respected book on harvard university press "the secret life of puppets" which deals with the fallout of wonder, awe, the supernatural being displaced into pure materialistic naturalism (intrinsic to the utter tyranny of liberalism) has changed Humanity.

Art, primarily a Religious thing, used to take its themes from Religion in the past. Now that Religion is all but outlawed, people go to art to satisfy their NEED for Religion by picking the residual bits off.

Again, sucking the moss off a stone in a regime where food has been banned.

This topic has been discussed since the beginning of The Church in detail, and even God Himself says that if The Truth is not spoken then the rocks themselves will violently rebel against humanity's all encompassing secular evil. It's especially a topic on the academic and philosophical talk circuits in the past twenty years because there WILL be a "re-enchantment" soon, the only question is how and how violent the correction will be.

It has been discussed at the end of every civilization, with the earliest more easily available are ancient egyptians lamenting the faithlessness that came just before their civilization died.

It's an especially telling thing when even your thought leaders who shoved the problem through the wall and past the breaking point in the 1980's and 1990's have spent TWO DECADES publicly wondering how they will manage the Natural backlash."
tomygun Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
Just be an ork
badger vortex Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
your life is going to be pretty awful unless you are an ork or a rogue trader
NightHowler81 Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
Its a universe that is made to sell Warhammer...you don't need anything good, just war
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GodMan Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:35pm 
its cool because its a fantasy

you don't want to live there. Its utter madness.
dark-lord21 Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by CiggyPop:
Even with its grim and dark vibe, are there any aspects or roles in the Warhammer 40K universe that might seem cool or beneficial? How could someone find something positive in such a harsh and chaotic universe?


Nohting there is literaly nothing good about it compared to other scifi futures the 40K is the worst,long before humanity there was a war so big so brutal and groy that all of the death and destruction it caused transformed the freaking afterlife into a literal hellscape that we know as the warp, the are demons,aliens,orks,elfs freaking dark bdsm elf that even give the cenobites from hellraiser a run for there money,(the turn people into chairs and i dont mean use them as chairs no the literaly make chairs out of poeple and other furnitures)literaly everyone and everything in the 40K universe is out to kill you,and even in death you will find no peace cause we also have the chaos gods who will torture and eat your soul,so no its a literal hell in life and in death(in the grim dark future there is only WAR)
rauta Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
Work 12h a day, six days a week.
Have a starch beer with the black lung lads.
Or be an ork.
SLDFMechwarrior Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by CiggyPop:
Even with its grim and dark vibe, are there any aspects or roles in the Warhammer 40K universe that might seem cool or beneficial? How could someone find something positive in such a harsh and chaotic universe?


There are peaceful and untouched Imperial worlds. In the Infinite and the Divine they spend some time on one such world (well, until Trazyn's Genestealer arrives) showing how there are peaceful places.

Bionics would allow you to replace your lost limbs. They no doubt have access to treatments and stimulants our scientists can only dream of today (which really puts the DoAT tech into perspective as it was 100X better.)

So no, it's not a total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Living in Ultramar would be quite nice.
impr0vise Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
OP do you have a fcn choice? - Now grab your las rifle and march forward - or I shoot you myself!
Rubyeyed Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:48pm 
Being a new agricultural world settler might be cool until the Dark Eldar slavers show up.

Also if you don't like thinking for yourself you might always try and leave The Empire to join Tau. If I remember right they have some pseudo brain control spores for other races and nobody complains.
EleventhStar Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:51pm 
as a human, there are certainly people living in lavish luxurious lifestyles.

but it's like 1 per billion humans if not worse.

entire planets where life is similar to earth, with democracy, good quality of life and all that stuff, who haven't seen war in thousands of years, supposedly exist too.
Last edited by EleventhStar; Sep 9, 2024 @ 12:52pm
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