Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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Todd Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:17am
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Why Are There No Female Space Marines?
My hot take:

There are no female space Marines....

There are no MALE space Marines either.

There are only space Marines.

Either sex can aspire to be a space Marine. But all distinction is pretty much eliminated with the complete replacement of their hormone system. This would be why prepubescent children are required for the process. Pretty all sex organs are removed and replaced.

By the time they go through the process of becoming a space Marine they are transhuman war machines with no sex at all. If they were once female or male, you wouldn't be able to tell and would be nearly identical.

"But BROTHER I am pinned here!" -pronouns?-

I get some people may refute this with the masculine language and pronouns used... But here's a thought... They don't speak English. They speak gothic. Gothic seems to be similar to Latin in many ways. One key feature of Latin is not everything is gendered like in English. They have relational words in male, female, and neuter. So basically in Gothic they may very well use the familiar form of the neuter gender pronouns... But as English requires you to pick one of two... "Brother" and "he/him" are used in translation.

With this in mind, beyond the newest Horus heresy rule book, it's easy to have AFAB person's becoming Space Marines without really changing any lore.

"What are you?

"I AM A SPACE MARINE"

"no, I mean what gender are you?"

"THE EMPEROR'S ANGELS OF DEATH"

"no no, I mean what's in your pants!?"

"BOLTER AMMO"

Besides male and female, there are 72 other genders, which include the following:

Agender: A person who does not identify themselves with or experience any gender. Agender people are also called null-gender, genderless, gendervoid, or neutral gender.
Abimegender: Associated with being profound, deep, and infinite. The term abimegender may be used alone or in combination with other genders.
Adamas gender: A gender that is indefinable or indomitable. People identifying with this gender refuse to be categorized in any particular gender identity.
Aerogender: Also called evaisgender, this gender identity changes according to one’s surroundings.
Aesthetigender: Also called aesthetgender, it is a type of gender identity derived from aesthetics.
Affectugender: This is based on the person’s mood swings or fluctuations.
Agenderflux: A person with this gender identity is mostly agender with brief shifts of belonging to other gender types.
Alexigender: The person has a fluid gender identity between more than one type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid in.
Aliusgender: This gender identity stands apart from existing social gender constructs. It means having a strong specific gender identity that is neither male nor female.
Amaregender: Having a gender identity that changes depending on the person one is emotionally attached to.
Ambigender: Having two specific gender identities simultaneously without any fluidity or fluctuations.
Ambonec: The person identifies themselves as both man and woman and yet does not belong to either.
Amicagender: A gender-fluid identity where a person changes their gender depending on the friends they have.
Androgyne: A person feels a combination of feminine and masculine genders.
Anesigender: The person feels close to a specific type of gender despite being more comfortable in closely identifying themselves with another gender.
Angenital: The person desires to be without any primary sexual characteristics although they do not identify themselves as genderless.
Anogender: The gender identity fades in and out in intensity but always comes back to the same gendered feeling.
Anongender: The person has a gender identity but does not label it or would prefer to not have a label.
Antegender: A protean gender that can be anything but is formless and motionless.
Anxiegender: This gender identity has anxiety as its prominent characteristic.
Apagender: The person has apathy or a lack of feelings toward one's gender identity.
Apconsugender: It means knowing what are not the characteristics of gender but not knowing what are its characteristics. Thus, a person hides its primary characteristics from the individual.
Astergender: The person has a bright and celestial gender identity.
Astral gender: Having a gender identity that feels to be related to space.
Autigender: Having a gender identity that feels to be closely related to being autistic.
Autogender: Having a gender experience that is deeply connected and personal to oneself.
Axigender: A gender identity that is between the two extremes of agender and any other type of gender. Both the genders are experienced one at a time without any overlapping. The two genders are described as on the opposite ends of an axis.
Bigender: Having two gender identities at the same or different times.
Biogender: Having a gender that is closely related to nature.
Blurgender: Also called gender fuss, blurgender means having more than one gender identities that blur into each other so that no particular type of gender identity is clear.
Boyflux: The person identifies themselves as male, but they experience varying degrees of male identity. This may range from feeling agender to completely male.
Burstgender: Frequent bursts of intense feelings quickly move to the initial calm stage.
Caelgender: This gender identity shares the qualities or aesthetics of outer space.
Cassgender: It is associated with the feelings of considering the gender irrelevant or unimportant.
Cassflux: There is a fluctuating intensity of irrelevance toward gender.
Cavusgender: The person feels close to one gender when depressed and to another when not depressed.
Cendgender: The gender identity changes from one gender to its opposite.
Ceterogender: It is a nonbinary gender where the person has a specific masculine, feminine or neutral feelings.
Ceterofluid: Although the person is a ceterogender, their identity keeps fluctuating between different genders.
Cisgender: Being closely related to the gender assigned at birth during the entire life.
Cloudgender: The person’s gender cannot be comprehended or understood due to depersonalization and derealization disorder.
Collgender: Various genders are present at the same time in the individual.
Colorgender: In this category, colors are used to describe gender, for example, pink gender or black gender.
Commogender: The person knows that they are not cisgender yet continues to identify as one for a while.
Condigender: The person feels their gender only under specific circumstances.
Deliciagender: Associated with the feeling of having multiple genders but preferring one over the other.
Demifluid: Having multiple genders, some fluid while others are static.
Demiflux: A combination of multiple genders with some genders static, whereas others fluctuating in intensity.
Demigender: The individual has partial traits of one gender and the rest of the other gender.
Domgender: The individual has multiple genders with one dominating over the rest.
Duragender: Having more than one gender with one lasting longer than the others.
Egogender: It is a personal type of gender identified by the individual alone. It is based on the person’s experience within the self.
Epicene: It is associated with a strong feeling of not being able to relate to any of the two genders of the binary gender or both of the binary gender characteristics.
Esspigender: The individual relates their gender identity with spirits.
Exgender: The denial to identify with any gender on the gender spectrum.
Existigender: The person’s gender identity exists only when they make conscious efforts to realize it.
Femfluid: The person is fluid or fluctuating regarding the feminine genders.
Femgender: A nonbinary gender identity that is feminine.
Fluidflux: It means to be fluid between two or more genders with a fluctuation in the intensity of those genders.
Gemigender: The person has two genders that are opposite yet they flux and work together.
Genderblank: It is closely related to a blank space.
Genderflow: The gender identity is fluid between infinite feelings.
Genderfluid: The person does not consistently adhere to one fixed gender and may have many genders.
Genderfuzz: More than one gender is blurred together.
Genderflux: The gender fluctuates in intensity.
Genderpuck: The person resists to fit in societal norms concerning genders.
Genderqueer: The individual blurs the preconceived boundaries of gender in relation to the gender binary or having just one gender type.
Gender witched: The person is inclined toward the notion of having one gender but does not know which.
Girlflux: The individual identifies themselves as a female but with varying intensities of female identities.
Healgender: A gender identity that gives the person peace, calm, and positivity.
Mirrorgender: Changing one's gender type based on the people surrounding.
Omnigender: Having or experiencing all genders.
Last edited by Todd; Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:51am
Originally posted by Vllth:
2024 and many games come out female only protagonist or males only gay fest. WTF devs how hard is it to make avatars for both ?
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seb447 Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:55am 
To everyone asking about Female space marines, all space marines have there sex organs removed and are pumped full of chemicals. They are brothers in arms but they don't have peepees as they only get in the way of fighting. There is no romance there is no marriage or sex. There is only war they are a tool for war nothing else. Why would space marines have boobs whats there function in war? Extra weight, to take up space? They are fighting machines you don't pick a gender you pick a chapter and go to WAR
SpoodlyDoodler Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:56am 
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there are not 74 genders. there are 2. you can't just 'feel' like a different gender and suddenly be that gender.
SpoodlyDoodler Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Todd:
Originally posted by firebat47:
Because of lore. Bet you are the type of person that will never complain that there are no male Asari's in Mass Effect, but will complain that there are no female's in a groups with settings like 40K. Hypocrisy at its finest.
THE LORE CAN BE CHANGED
The Lore doesn't need to be changed. not for people like you.
DJ BUSTANUT Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Valor!:
blocked
try not to piss your pants lad
DJ BUSTANUT Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Shosh:
no, they are only men :steamthumbsup:
bros in tears
Todd Sep 9, 2024 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by seb447:
To everyone asking about Female space marines, all space marines have there sex organs removed and are pumped full of chemicals. They are brothers in arms but they don't have peepees as they only get in the way of fighting. There is no romance there is no marriage or sex. There is only war they are a tool for war nothing else. Why would space marines have boobs whats there function in war? Extra weight, to take up space? They are fighting machines you don't pick a gender you pick a chapter and go to WAR
Female can achieve that too , or prove me I'm wrong
Aldoraziel Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:03am 
Maxims Metalica 76.12 From such small heresies are great apostasies made.
Hail the omnimessia
Ishan451 Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Todd:
Why Are There No Female Space Marines?

Real answer: Because they didn't sell in 1st Edition. They had blisters with 2 female Space Marines in them, nobody wanted them, and the retailers were upset about being sent the blisters with the female Space Marines in them to the point that they said they would refuse to carry the line if they would be sent inventory that didn't sell.

So female Space Marines were removed when they remade the lore.

And they created the Adepta Sororitas in their place, instead. Who are all female warriors in Power Armor. While not genetically enhanced, they have something much more powerful... faith. Faith as effect can shield them from the grievest of wounds, and even banish Demons by their pure presence and a little prayer recital. And there are also a number of other human "factions" that have females serving in their ranks.

So really it is only the Space Marines that are all male based on the lore and even that could easily be subverted by simply declaring your chapter to be a successor of the 2 Primarchs that were removed (they are kept ambigious for the express reason to allow player freedom and the ability to create chapters not connected to the existing ones). You could take the "Forgotten" or "Unforgiven" and simply claim that their crime was transitioning to a women (maybe being cast into the warp mutated their body into a woman). Anyone of their marines that wanted to transition along them was allowed, everyone else was absorbed by other Legions. You then have a nice persecution narrative to go along with it. How their own family doesn't want to talk to them or even acknowledge their existence.


Not that you or anyone that makes these threads actually cares about any of this. I know this post is just a waste of time and you just try to be edgy.
Last edited by Ishan451; Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:06am
Todd Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Todd:
Why Are There No Female Space Marines?

Real answer: Because they didn't sell in 1st Edition. They had blisters with 2 female Space Marines in them, nobody wanted them, and the retailers were upset about being sent the blisters with the female Space Marines in them to the point that they said they would refuse to carry the line if they would be sent inventory that didn't sell.

So female Space Marines were removed when they remade the lore.

And they created the Adepta Sororitas in their place, instead. Who are all female warriors in Power Armor. While not genetically enhanced, they have something much more powerful... faith. Faith as effect can shield them from the grievest of wounds, and even banish Demons by their pure presence and a little prayer recital. And there are also a number of other human "factions" that have females serving in their ranks.

So really it is only the Space Marines that are all male based on the lore and even that could easily be subverted by simply declaring your chapter to be a successor of the 2 Primarchs that were removed (they are kept ambigious for the express reason to allow player freedom and the ability to create chapters not connected to the existing ones). You could take the "Forgotten" or "Unforgiven" and simply claim that their crime was transitioning to a women (maybe being cast into the warp mutated their body into a woman). Anyone of their marines that wanted to transition along them was allowed, everyone else was absorbed by other Legions. You then have a nice persecution narrative to go along with it. How their own family doesn't want to talk to them or even acknowledge their existence.


Not that you or anyone that makes these threads actually cares about any of this. I know this post is just a waste of time and you just try to be edgy.
I think you're completely wrong
John Grammaticus Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:13am 
Females never survive the transformation. Therefore no female ASTARTES
Todd Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by CPT Cahoonan:
Females never survive the transformation. Therefore no female ASTARTES
I think there should be at least one who survive
s07h1cc Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:15am 
another bait?
BobaFettRams97 Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:16am 
Not reading all that.
Todd Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by BobaFettRams97:
Not reading all that.
I bet you don't care about the lore too, so my point is proven
Xtci Sep 9, 2024 @ 8:18am 
This is space marine 2. Not Battle sisters. GTFO.
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