Lore question

[Alexia]

I see all the clown bait about lgbt/female but I have a legit question.
I'm honestly new to Warhammer 40k with Darktide being my only experience into the IP. So the game offers no female customization option or is it just strictly for certain factions? I saw a screenshot showing a player character without a helmet so I assume that is an option or does the game strictly have you in the armor?
I remember something about the retcon with custodes being only male and people mentioning battle sisters being ignored. If the game is playing as a faction that is strictly male would there be options to play other factions like the battle sisters or would that go against the lore?
Thank you for your time and reading/replying to my post. I'm probably going to pick up the game when I can afford it regardless of if I can play as a female or not. I was just wondering if the option would be viable without retconning lore further.

[Silhouette]

Originally posted by Alexia:

So my question about including other factions is a little redundant but possible, although the game is centered around specifically the soldiers who were genetically altered using the Primarch. So playing as other factions would be better suited for another game then this one.

While I would prefer to play as a female, that lore makes sense and as previously stated, I'm still willing to play.

Truthfully, the Space Marines and Sisters of Battle regularly team up in the novels, source books, promotional ads, etc. It would not be unusual to see the Sisters of Battle and the Space Marines fighting side-by-side in this game.

It would be awesome if Saber added the Sisters of Battle as playable classes in a future update. :)

[diji]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Adeptus Sororitas are militant part of Ordo Hereticus.

They deal with chaos uprisings, not xeno invasions.

That being said, they are already featured and playable in Gladius: Relics of War, Inquisitor: Martyr and Rogue Trader RPG.

They wear power armors, but they are orginary humans, just little too much into believing Emperor to be actual god.

no action games, rip

[Jetch]

When space marines where first created they tried to do it with females but it didnt work and it was disatrous so they confirmed that the process only works on males.

Sisters of battle however have an even bigger quality than both space marines and custodes both which have fear removed... sisters have overcome fear naturally and they are capable of actually manifesting miracles like REAL miracles.

[H.U.N.K]

Originally posted by Barry Cabbage:

I for one don't really care, so long as female space marines don't behave differently to a male space marines, both mentally and physically.

Wishful thinking there buddy of course they are going to make female space marines stronger faster smarter and braver than the men in fact they will probably slowly make the male marines dumber and more cowardly so they need the females to come save them cos they the bestest evah! anything GW farts out now is worthless woke trash.

[Eidrog]

Originally posted by H.U.N.K:

Wishful thinking there buddy of course they are going to make female space marines stronger faster smarter and braver than the men in fact they will probably slowly make the male marines dumber and more cowardly so they need the females to come save them cos they the bestest evah! anything GW farts out now is worthless woke trash.

Meanwhile an awesome game just came out. But hey, have fun hating things. : )

[H.U.N.K]

Originally posted by Eidrog:

Originally posted by H.U.N.K:

Wishful thinking there buddy of course they are going to make female space marines stronger faster smarter and braver than the men in fact they will probably slowly make the male marines dumber and more cowardly so they need the females to come save them cos they the bestest evah! anything GW farts out now is worthless woke trash.

Meanwhile an awesome game just came out. But hey, have fun hating things. : )

Maybie learn to read I'm talking about GWs deconstruction and retconing of the lore for the "modern audience" not the game the game is good which is why Iv'e been playing it for the last 3 days.

[Toxin]

Originally posted by Barry Cabbage:

The existence of Female custodians (Even more super than space marines) does not lend any in-lore credence to Female Space marines as Custodians are NOT made using geenseed like space marines are, they're simply normal humans pushed to the absolute natural limits the human body can be pushed to without genetic alteration.

Custodes are heavily genetical altered but the process is different from Astates.
Afaik we don't exactly know how they are made only that its more specific to the individuals genetic make up and this not as standertized as the Space Marine Geneseed.

Technically speaking the strongest non modified Human faction are the Sisters of Battle. Which given the IoMs focus on purity of the Human form is kinda funny and fitting the Sisters credo

[Barry Cabbage]

Originally posted by Toxin:

Originally posted by Barry Cabbage:

The existence of Female custodians (Even more super than space marines) does not lend any in-lore credence to Female Space marines as Custodians are NOT made using geenseed like space marines are, they're simply normal humans pushed to the absolute natural limits the human body can be pushed to without genetic alteration.

Custodes are heavily genetical altered but the process is different from Astates.
Afaik we don't exactly know how they are made only that its more specific to the individuals genetic make up and this not as standertized as the Space Marine Geneseed.

Technically speaking the strongest non modified Human faction are the Sisters of Battle. Which given the IoMs focus on purity of the Human form is kinda funny and fitting the Sisters credo

Yes, I worded that very stupidly and incorrectly in my haste to explain everything else.

I meant to say they're not genetically added to, simply every part of them is genetically at it's peak the only way to be better would be to add more.

as an example Custodians don't have two hearts like space marines, because their one heart is better than that. they don't need the redundancy because their protection is better than needing it.

and I quote:
"Not then for the Adeptus Custodes the pattern of surgical grafting and organ implantation that creates a Space Marine, no such crudities of augmentation at all mar the Custodian; what creates them is as invisible as it is potent, worked upon the core genetics and at a deep cellular level, and perhaps tailored to each specific inductee. There are those who insist that so invisible and yet so powerful is this process that it crosses over into a metaphysical realm of biomancy and psychic manipulation on a level unguessed at. Given that it is said that the Emperor Himself has overseen the creation of every single Custodian Guard who has ever lived, this may well be true."

[K3NSAI]

What a wholesome thread, except for that single person.
I would personally love if they included sisters of battle in a future DLC/Expansion.

[Cree]

It's like blood donor junk

Primarch geneseed -> only men can use it
The "alchemy" custodes are created from -> universal donor

[KOOLCOO]

You may be trolling.
In immperium there are many armed forces.
PDF, Arbites, Inquisition and Agents of Terra, Navy, Astra Militarum, Custodes, Adeptus Sorroritas, many auqsiliery units, Mechanicum, Titan legions, Astartes etc etc,

In most of them you have mixed genders, from memory I can tell that you Have sorroitas that are all female, Sisters of sillence - all female, Space Marines - all male, And then you have special cases like assassins that some of them are "gerdenles" can take any shape and form etc.

So please tell me how exactly is WH40K not incclusive and diverse ?
( and that's just immperium not counting all the xenos and other factions )

Edit: Also the game is called "Space Marine" ( so it's kinda obvious that you are playing as a Space Marine )

About Custodes - they aren't "some type of better Space Marines" they are completly different beings, taken in young age and specially tailor made, every single one is unique invidual ( not sure how they keep making them after Big E is on the throne ).
Unlike Space Marines that are "mass produced".

[Alexia]

Originally posted by KOOLCOO:

You may be trolling.
In immperium there are many armed forces.
PDF, Arbites, Inquisition and Agents of Terra, Navy, Astra Militarum, Custodes, Adeptus Sorroritas, many auqsiliery units, Mechanicum, Titan legions, Astartes etc etc,

So please tell me how exactly is WH40K not incclusive and diverse ?
( and that's just immperium not counting all the xenos and other factions )

Edit: Also the game is called "Space Marine" ( so it's kinda obvious that you are playing as a Space Marine )

About Custodes - they aren't "some type of better Space Marines" they are completly different beings, taken in young age and specially tailor made, every single one is unique invidual ( not sure how they keep making them after Big E is on the throne ).
Unlike Space Marines that are "mass produced".

I was asking an honest question, I admit I had little interaction with the IP so I acknowledge the desire for playing a female is uncanny when someone understands the lore, but that's why I asked.

I never claimed it wasn't, my question is more strictly tied to the game and how well it can fit in the lore while providing player choice.

I admit I didn't understand the full definition of the Space Marine as a category and assumed it was a wider definition of the genre type faction. Such as how you have the UNSC and then sub category of marines/spartans/etc.

I only mentioned Custodes because I remember hearing about that and had it more explained that they are more personal guards (Not sure if the right term for the job so sorry if I used the wrong term) to the emperor and it was stated they were male (which if they helped the emperor like a handmaiden or a nurse then it makes sense if the emperor would have them be strictly male).

[IreJester]

Originally posted by Endy:

Astartes could be female decades ago, but that's been retconned. There are no female Astartes in the current lore. There may be female Custodes. Females have the Sororitas and Sisters of Silence, which are adequately powerful. Pretty sure the SoS even have access to Adrathic weaponry which is top tier.

The Sisters of Silence are my second favourite faction in WH40k! Super cool lore around them when they get involved. First is the Astra Militarum.

[IreJester]

Originally posted by Alexia:

I see all the clown bait about lgbt/female but I have a legit question.
I'm honestly new to Warhammer 40k with Darktide being my only experience into the IP. So the game offers no female customization option or is it just strictly for certain factions? I saw a screenshot showing a player character without a helmet so I assume that is an option or does the game strictly have you in the armor?
I remember something about the retcon with custodes being only male and people mentioning battle sisters being ignored. If the game is playing as a faction that is strictly male would there be options to play other factions like the battle sisters or would that go against the lore?
Thank you for your time and reading/replying to my post. I'm probably going to pick up the game when I can afford it regardless of if I can play as a female or not. I was just wondering if the option would be viable without retconning lore further.

Right now you can only play as Astartes, which are all male. Maybe in the future they will support mods, or release a DLC which has Adeptus Sororitas as a character model. Who knows!