why those people keep ignore this cool faction ?

[Priestess No.1 Stalker]

Sister of silence and Sister of battle is really cool and in the same degree as space marine
and yet those people keep pushing to get women in Adeptus Custodes and Adeptus Astartes
WHY ????????
Why your kind can't leave us alone ?
because your kind do not want to see us happy ?
are your kind are this petty ?

[Morgrum]

Originally posted by Flushing:

Originally posted by Goul:

Lore wise, it doesnt make sense to have female Astartes or custodes. they are made with geneseed, that, alters the Genetics of the Person Implanted, bringing it closer to the Primarch.
That would mean, even if a Female would survive implanting the Seed, it would Change the genetics to Male. As EVERY Primarch/And the Emperor, is Male.

So, it would either end in a Trans beeing, neither fully Male or Female or in a Male.

I don't think Custodes have a Primarch. There was a vague reference in an old codex, speculating, that the Emperor is the Primarch of the Custodes, but the text was presented as a speculation, or rumor in the imperium because of how perfect they are.

It's also undercut by the fact that there are no Custodes Psychers, and the Emperor is the most powerful psycher in the material universe.

Basically, there are a bunch of speculations presented about the creation processes of the Custodes, but the only official rhetoric I have seen is that it's all a secret.

It's one of those things where it's in GW's interests to never take a position on their creation.

Yea that rumor was going around at the same time that folks were saying that the grey knights were from the emperors geneseed.
Now we know that they were formed from Malacadors Knights errant which were made of loyal members of all 18 legions.
Their very first grand master was a Thousand son who merged with magnus's lost soul fragment.

[Morgrum]

Originally posted by Flushing:

Originally posted by Morgrum:

Yes because the Primarchs were male the Space marines have to be male.
Custodus are taken as young children same as Space marines but even younger think 6-7 not 10-13.
But those children are rebuilt from the ground up on a gentic level even more so then a space marine it is a much longer and invasive process.
And yes they are basically one offs.
So while all custodus are faster,stronger, more durable then a marine in their own ranks there are some that are much stronger faster stronger then other custodus.

Thank you so much!

I knew that there was significant variation amongst the Custodes, both in terms of aptitude and ability.

I had attributed it to each Custodes being a completely unique individual (not brothers, like Space Marines) and being built out as a wholly unique project.

Kinda like the OG, Orange County Choppers show, where they build custom motorcycles. Each motorcycle is a motorcycle, but each is completely different.

Sure thing Im always happen to explain the lore to folks.
But its late and im headed to bed.

One edit and this was said by the only Word bearer I liked who was named Argel Tal during the heresy and it fits completely.
When Custodus fight they fight as singular beings each one a lion.
But when Space marines fight they fight as a whole like a pack of Wolves.

[TKozlows]

So to answer some of the lore questions:

Astartes gene-seed yeah? It's developed using a Primarch as a template. The gene-seed also has an unfortunate tendency to not work right with aspirants. Typically killing them. Even back in the advanced period of 30K. Now. All the Primarchs are male.

The odds of gene-seed successfully taking in a female would be so catastrophically low that you would not only be wasting nearly irreplaceable gene-seed but almost certainly killing a otherwise capable female who could and would likely go on to bear children better able to meld with the gene-seed.

The setting of WH:40K is not a world like ours. To waste a life because of something as asinine as identity politics would have a commissar putting a las-blast through your forehead faster than you can blink.

While I enjoy (mostly) this setting, at no point would I want to live in it. Or want anyone current to live in it. It is the closest thing to hell we can imagine.

Also to address something another poster wrote.

Cut it out with the gas-lighting.

1. Sisters of Battle have been featured in no less than 2 video games in the last 15 years
2. The topic of female space marines has been around for more than 20 years, probably 30.
3. Very few if anyone in the community actually have issues with non-white space marines. The Salamanders is one of the most popular Chapters. The White Scars are pretty popular as are the Thousand Sons.

Saying things like that makes the better informed regard you either as a troll or more likely a clout-chasing tourist.

[~ Fabulous ~]

creative bankruptcy thats why, make Saint Celestine cooler? nah, make her die again, oh people really like the sister of silence captain? kill her anticlimactically, forget them, look at the new femstody that have 0 character other than being femstody try hard, she so strong because she look like a man.

[Flushing]

Originally posted by Morgrum:

Originally posted by Flushing:

I don't think Custodes have a Primarch. There was a vague reference in an old codex, speculating, that the Emperor is the Primarch of the Custodes, but the text was presented as a speculation, or rumor in the imperium because of how perfect they are.

It's also undercut by the fact that there are no Custodes Psychers, and the Emperor is the most powerful psycher in the material universe.

Basically, there are a bunch of speculations presented about the creation processes of the Custodes, but the only official rhetoric I have seen is that it's all a secret.

It's one of those things where it's in GW's interests to never take a position on their creation.

Yea that rumor was going around at the same time that folks were saying that the grey knights were from the emperors geneseed.
Now we know that they were formed from Malacadors Knights errant which were made of loyal members of all 18 legions.
Their very first grand master was a Thousand son who merged with magnus's lost soul fragment.

I thought that was very cool. I'm surprised that they actually built out the lore.

Because I'm a huge fan of the W40K Dawn of War series, I really hope GW officially proclaims Blood Ravens to be, at least in part, a successor chapter of loyalist Thousand Sons, or having been made from a modified strand of Thousand Sons' geneseed.

I just really liked Magnus' storyline and felt like both he and his legions got a bad rap. I don't think Daemon Prince Magnus or the Thousand Sons could have a full redemption ark as 40k currently stands.

But, there are a lot of things built in that allow for partial rehabilitation.

As you pointed out, the Shards or Soul Fragments of Magnus. And, I think that there are still more Shards.

But, I really want GW to come out and say Blood Ravens are Thousand Sons.

They could do it in a way where we as the reader are in the know, without the entire material universe knowing.

GW always does these countless cliffhangers. Like, it seems possible that every missing Primarch has a feasible way of returning.

Heck, even though Sanguinius was killed there's a possibility of his manifesting in the material universe because, apparently, a strong portion of his soul remains uncomsumed and in the warp.

[Bflawless]

Space Marines would ♥♥♥♥ on sisters of battle, they are not augmented to the same degree and rely on simplified power armour to be cool

[~ Fabulous ~]

Originally posted by Bflawless:

Space Marines would ♥♥♥♥ on sisters of battle, they are not augmented to the same degree and rely on simplified power armour to be cool

Saint Celestine kick no name space marine all day everyday no sweat, even named one tbh

[Zulie]

Originally posted by Bflawless:

Space Marines would ♥♥♥♥ on sisters of battle, they are not augmented to the same degree and rely on simplified power armour to be cool

That being said, the Adepta Sororitas does many of the same things that the Adeptus Astartes do but without daddy emperor having to handhold them through extensive genetic manipulation first.

[Flushing]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

Originally posted by Bflawless:

Space Marines would ♥♥♥♥ on sisters of battle, they are not augmented to the same degree and rely on simplified power armour to be cool

Saint Celestine kick no name space marine all day everyday no sweat, even named one tbh

She's pretty crazy, but she fawns over Guilliman.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by I'm alone am the honored one:

Sister of silence and Sister of battle is really cool and in the same degree as space marine
and yet those people keep pushing to get women in Adeptus Custodes and Adeptus Astartes
WHY ????????
Why your kind can't leave us alone ?
because your kind do not want to see us happy ?
are your kind are this petty ?

Because they’d rather force females into the custodes now that they’re selling well instead of give some love to the sisters. Probably so they don’t actually have to make another mold.

[A Suspicious Crayon]

Originally posted by John Spacemarine:

I think it's kinda weird that your happiness and enjoyment precludes the possibility of a Space Marine being female. That said, I also think it's weird that people have such an issue with Space Marines with skin and features that are anything other than white.

That said, most of the people making these threads on these forums are genuinely just trying to troll and get a rise out of people. All they care about are collecting those precious Steam points and its a very easy way to get them.

Even so, I'm sure if they added a Sister of Battle class there would still be a lot of complaints because of some part of the lore. Honestly, though, they could easily come up with a way to justify it in the lore, there's plenty of perfectly valid ways that could be done (even the creation of Primaris marines can be considered heresy so why not go ahead and add women to the recruitment pool?)

At the end of the day, it's not a deal breaker to me either way. I just think there's nothing wrong with opening the door for other people so long as it's done with respect to the source material, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't think that's possible with this particular subject.

You do realise people have absolutely no issue with Skin colour and features right? thats not even remotely the problem and never has been, salamanders have charcoal black skin, Slaanesh is called the prince of pleassure and has both genders. People couldn't care less what skin colour a demon or spacemarine has, the lore is what people care about because it is a decades old lore at this point.

And it was established in the lore that woman do not survive the gen seed, done, end of the story, they tried, they died.

And really, Primaris? Using Primaris as an example is fairly terrible considering the majority of 40k fans still hasn't accepted them as Space Marines, for good reasons.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by A Suspicious Crayon:

Originally posted by John Spacemarine:

I think it's kinda weird that your happiness and enjoyment precludes the possibility of a Space Marine being female. That said, I also think it's weird that people have such an issue with Space Marines with skin and features that are anything other than white.

That said, most of the people making these threads on these forums are genuinely just trying to troll and get a rise out of people. All they care about are collecting those precious Steam points and its a very easy way to get them.

Even so, I'm sure if they added a Sister of Battle class there would still be a lot of complaints because of some part of the lore. Honestly, though, they could easily come up with a way to justify it in the lore, there's plenty of perfectly valid ways that could be done (even the creation of Primaris marines can be considered heresy so why not go ahead and add women to the recruitment pool?)

At the end of the day, it's not a deal breaker to me either way. I just think there's nothing wrong with opening the door for other people so long as it's done with respect to the source material, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't think that's possible with this particular subject.

You do realise people have absolutely no issue with Skin colour and features right? thats not even remotely the problem and never has been, salamanders have charcoal black skin, Slaanesh is called the prince of pleassure and has both genders. People couldn't care less what skin colour a demon or spacemarine has, the lore is what people care about because it is a decades old lore at this point.

And it was established in the lore that woman do not survive the gen seed, done, end of the story, they tried, they died.

And really, Primaris? Using Primaris as an example is fairly terrible considering the majority of 40k fans still hasn't accepted them as Space Marines, for good reasons.

I just wish we could make our own space marine instead of using preset characters. I want my charcoal black salamander, or stringy mustache topknot white scar. And there’s plenty of us old heads who like the primaris.

[2B]

tbh, I love sisters of battle, but they are not an alternative. They are a little too over the top, and they have no room for much uniqueness, you can see even in their books and stories its the same plot points over and over.

[Babki]

Because they are bait

[Flushing]

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Originally posted by I'm alone am the honored one:

Sister of silence and Sister of battle is really cool and in the same degree as space marine
and yet those people keep pushing to get women in Adeptus Custodes and Adeptus Astartes
WHY ????????
Why your kind can't leave us alone ?
because your kind do not want to see us happy ?
are your kind are this petty ?

Because they’d rather force females into the custodes now that they’re selling well instead of give some love to the sisters. Probably so they don’t actually have to make another mold.

And they said the Custodes have always had woman, so for all you know, some of your fully armored Custodes are woman...you just can't tell.