Bulwark role impact

[Rone]

Joining teams on Ruthless operations with my power sword and plasma pistol, jumping around setting up gun strikes to get armor back and executing whatever glows.

I'm aware I have a chapter banner to regen armor and help allies but I'm not really helping destroy waves of enemies or do high single target damage which seems it would be more helpful.

I know the class description says you help but what in your opinion is bulwarks main impact in missions.

[MMC]

Actually one of the most desirable ally in team(playing heavy+assault). It's always the guy who will revive you when something gone wrong and we appreciate this.

[cyno]

I ONLY play Bulwark in operations and most of the time I end up with 1st in 3 or 4 of the categories of the end of mission table. This class is great to play when you know how to fight in close combat, the Boltgun or Plasma pistol is there to help or destabilize.
I managed to hold a Hive Tyrant in 1v1 for my brothers without any real worries and for the waves of enemies... then it's complete fun. Work on your gameplay, don't be afraid to rush especially if you have a heavy with you.
And yes, it is the class that requires the most resources to play because you have to be EXTREMELY attentive especially in Ruthless.

[Tacoz]

Bulwark goes in first, shield raised to absorb all the ranged damage the others would normally take. You distract enough enemies and kill them one by one without taking too much damage to make the large waves more manageable for your team. You can also really easily tie down larger enemies so they can be shot at, just make sure to parry the light attacks and continue dodging. There's gonna be moments where you just won't get a good hit in because there's too many attacks coming at you all at once, but as long as you just stay alive and keep fighting your team will manage better.

[ShoXx]

Originally posted by cyno:

I ONLY play Bulwark in operations and most of the time I end up with 1st in 3 or 4 of the categories of the end of mission table. This class is great to play when you know how to fight in close combat, the Boltgun or Plasma pistol is there to help or destabilize.
I managed to hold a Hive Tyrant in 1v1 for my brothers without any real worries and for the waves of enemies... then it's complete fun. Work on your gameplay, don't be afraid to rush especially if you have a heavy with you.
And yes, it is the class that requires the most resources to play because you have to be EXTREMELY attentive especially in Ruthless.

i dont think so i only played bulwark also and it feels weak when playing pve even you got 3 armor plates they are melting easly when there is a swarm they are eating you alive even you hold up your shield some how they shoot your armor i dont know if its a glitch or not and most of the gameplay i have to play with %35 health .you said you are taking stars but which ones probably : melee damage , special kills , revives these are the probably you are getting too and they are not really speacial . most of the time im just doing combos like playing tekken and they are not even taking really that damage (max dif) and when i get my plasma pistol its like way easier 4 hold fire on Tyranid Warriors and they are in red . how much i use my sword it takes a lot of combo for even taking out the small ones . the other point is shield feels weak even the human snipers can put you stun dont matter how big is your shield or heavy also i mentioned they can shoot you even you hold up your shiled(front ofc) what is the point of shield. most of the time in blue attack (bigger enemys) i do perfect dash so i can able to shoot with my pistol back and stun them but i when i use my shield im getting stunned and again shield is weak for close combat. what is the point of playing bulwark like ,heavy can easily take of the big swarms and sniper can take of the big ones, vanguard is really fast and very maneuverable same as assault, tactical could use his skill on boss and team will do more damage , but bulwarks skill and shield feels so much weak most of the time i jump into the big one and trying to do best combo possible and when i kill him my team took out the rest of the enemys without me,. overall bulwark needs upgrade i think but he is coolest one thats the reason i still play with him

[cyno]

Originally posted by ShoXx:

Originally posted by cyno:

I ONLY play Bulwark in operations and most of the time I end up with 1st in 3 or 4 of the categories of the end of mission table. This class is great to play when you know how to fight in close combat, the Boltgun or Plasma pistol is there to help or destabilize.
I managed to hold a Hive Tyrant in 1v1 for my brothers without any real worries and for the waves of enemies... then it's complete fun. Work on your gameplay, don't be afraid to rush especially if you have a heavy with you.
And yes, it is the class that requires the most resources to play because you have to be EXTREMELY attentive especially in Ruthless.

i dont think so i only played bulwark also and it feels weak when playing pve even you got 3 armor plates they are melting easly when there is a swarm they are eating you alive even you hold up your shield some how they shoot your armor i dont know if its a glitch or not and most of the gameplay i have to play with %35 health .you said you are taking stars but which ones probably : melee damage , special kills , revives these are the probably you are getting too and they are not really speacial . most of the time im just doing combos like playing tekken and they are not even taking really that damage (max dif) and when i get my plasma pistol its like way easier 4 hold fire on Tyranid Warriors and they are in red . how much i use my sword it takes a lot of combo for even taking out the small ones . the other point is shield feels weak even the human snipers can put you stun dont matter how big is your shield or heavy also i mentioned they can shoot you even you hold up your shiled(front ofc) what is the point of shield. most of the time in blue attack (bigger enemys) i do perfect dash so i can able to shoot with my pistol back and stun them but i when i use my shield im getting stunned and again shield is weak for close combat. what is the point of playing bulwark like ,heavy can easily take of the big swarms and sniper can take of the big ones, vanguard is really fast and very maneuverable same as assault, tactical could use his skill on boss and team will do more damage , but bulwarks skill and shield feels so much weak most of the time i jump into the big one and trying to do best combo possible and when i kill him my team took out the rest of the enemys without me,. overall bulwark needs upgrade i think but he is coolest one thats the reason i still play with him

I completely agree with these problems, especially with the near uselessness of the shield. However, with good understanding, reactivity and movement, I can play correctly. I am far from saying that the Bulwark is perfect, we are restricted due to our role as pseudo Apothecary which probably prevents us from having much better assets. Personally I always favor big targets like warriors, especially because when you execute them, you can activate a skill that creates a seismic wave that kills most of the hormagaunts around. For distance, plasma is the best, even if a little limited. On the other hand, where I personally have the most problems is against these bastards Zoanthropes, we are totally vulnerable, often appear in pairs and exchange a shield, it's hell. But yes, the shield is seriously lacking in usefulness and the skill tree is good but leaves something to be desired once on the field.

[Gibbe]

I mostly play heavy and I usually really appreciate a bulwark. As long as they are not eating all the ammo for their secondary, leaving my heavy bolter starved of munitions. Otherwise they help a lot preventing me from being mangled to death by a horde of melee units that heavy seriously struggles to break away from without having a real melee option.

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Fellas, a bit unrelated but plasma pistol or bolt pistol. I'm only lvl 13 and the charged plasma shot is good in lower levels but i'd like your opinions.

I'm not sure about melee weapon too. I basically only use the power sword. How are the others? So far, I'm enjoying the sword although i've traded out parrying. Any recommended setups? Which version do I go for?

[ShoXx]

Originally posted by cyno:

Originally posted by ShoXx:

i dont think so i only played bulwark also and it feels weak when playing pve even you got 3 armor plates they are melting easly when there is a swarm they are eating you alive even you hold up your shield some how they shoot your armor i dont know if its a glitch or not and most of the gameplay i have to play with %35 health .you said you are taking stars but which ones probably : melee damage , special kills , revives these are the probably you are getting too and they are not really speacial . most of the time im just doing combos like playing tekken and they are not even taking really that damage (max dif) and when i get my plasma pistol its like way easier 4 hold fire on Tyranid Warriors and they are in red . how much i use my sword it takes a lot of combo for even taking out the small ones . the other point is shield feels weak even the human snipers can put you stun dont matter how big is your shield or heavy also i mentioned they can shoot you even you hold up your shiled(front ofc) what is the point of shield. most of the time in blue attack (bigger enemys) i do perfect dash so i can able to shoot with my pistol back and stun them but i when i use my shield im getting stunned and again shield is weak for close combat. what is the point of playing bulwark like ,heavy can easily take of the big swarms and sniper can take of the big ones, vanguard is really fast and very maneuverable same as assault, tactical could use his skill on boss and team will do more damage , but bulwarks skill and shield feels so much weak most of the time i jump into the big one and trying to do best combo possible and when i kill him my team took out the rest of the enemys without me,. overall bulwark needs upgrade i think but he is coolest one thats the reason i still play with him

I completely agree with these problems, especially with the near uselessness of the shield. However, with good understanding, reactivity and movement, I can play correctly. I am far from saying that the Bulwark is perfect, we are restricted due to our role as pseudo Apothecary which probably prevents us from having much better assets. Personally I always favor big targets like warriors, especially because when you execute them, you can activate a skill that creates a seismic wave that kills most of the hormagaunts around. For distance, plasma is the best, even if a little limited. On the other hand, where I personally have the most problems is against these bastards Zoanthropes, we are totally vulnerable, often appear in pairs and exchange a shield, it's hell. But yes, the shield is seriously lacking in usefulness and the skill tree is good but leaves something to be desired once on the field.

i do the same with attacking the big ones but small ones just melts my armor and health quick only in max diffcultys ,they could make more tanky by changin the passive %20 more health to total of 5 armor and adding more combos for shield would actually fix the bulwark for me . for ex: holding L1 while dashing makes you charge and the small enemys gets into pieces the big ones gets stun (should be cooldown ofc) and finishers with shield could be cool cus there is none

[cyno]

Originally posted by ...:

Fellas, a bit unrelated but plasma pistol or bolt pistol. I'm only lvl 13 and the charged plasma shot is good in lower levels but i'd like your opinions.

I'm not sure about melee weapon too. I basically only use the power sword. How are the others? So far, I'm enjoying the sword although i've traded out parrying. Any recommended setups?

The plasma pistol is the best choice, it is powerful and can destabilize enemies (especially while they call for reinforcements).
For melee weapons, I have a hard time moving on from the energy sword but the power fist seems very powerful for groups of enemies. The chainsword is good but especially against individual targets. Afterwards, you must especially help yourself with your choices in your skill tree whether it is for your weapons or your Bulwark.
That's my opinion.

[cyno]

Originally posted by ShoXx:

Originally posted by cyno:

I completely agree with these problems, especially with the near uselessness of the shield. However, with good understanding, reactivity and movement, I can play correctly. I am far from saying that the Bulwark is perfect, we are restricted due to our role as pseudo Apothecary which probably prevents us from having much better assets. Personally I always favor big targets like warriors, especially because when you execute them, you can activate a skill that creates a seismic wave that kills most of the hormagaunts around. For distance, plasma is the best, even if a little limited. On the other hand, where I personally have the most problems is against these bastards Zoanthropes, we are totally vulnerable, often appear in pairs and exchange a shield, it's hell. But yes, the shield is seriously lacking in usefulness and the skill tree is good but leaves something to be desired once on the field.

i do the same with attacking the big ones but small ones just melts my armor and health quick only in max diffcultys ,they could make more tanky by changin the passive %20 more health to total of 5 armor and adding more combos for shield would actually fix the bulwark for me . for ex: holding L1 while dashing makes you charge and the small enemys gets into pieces the big ones gets stun (should be cooldown ofc) and finishers with shield could be cool cus there is none

Honestly, I hadn't thought about it but it's not stupid. After, adding life or armor and ending up more resistant than a heavy is weird but yes replacing this apothecary role with a real Chaplin role would be the best thing. And what's more it would allow to add the apothecary class.
I add, if you want to make feedback, they created "Focus Together" which is used for the game's reviews.

[Rone]

Originally posted by ShoXx:

Originally posted by cyno:

I ONLY play Bulwark in operations and most of the time I end up with 1st in 3 or 4 of the categories of the end of mission table. This class is great to play when you know how to fight in close combat, the Boltgun or Plasma pistol is there to help or destabilize.
I managed to hold a Hive Tyrant in 1v1 for my brothers without any real worries and for the waves of enemies... then it's complete fun. Work on your gameplay, don't be afraid to rush especially if you have a heavy with you.
And yes, it is the class that requires the most resources to play because you have to be EXTREMELY attentive especially in Ruthless.

i dont think so i only played bulwark also and it feels weak when playing pve even you got 3 armor plates they are melting easly when there is a swarm they are eating you alive even you hold up your shield some how they shoot your armor i dont know if its a glitch or not and most of the gameplay i have to play with %35 health .you said you are taking stars but which ones probably : melee damage , special kills , revives these are the probably you are getting too and they are not really speacial . most of the time im just doing combos like playing tekken and they are not even taking really that damage (max dif) and when i get my plasma pistol its like way easier 4 hold fire on Tyranid Warriors and they are in red . how much i use my sword it takes a lot of combo for even taking out the small ones . the other point is shield feels weak even the human snipers can put you stun dont matter how big is your shield or heavy also i mentioned they can shoot you even you hold up your shiled(front ofc) what is the point of shield. most of the time in blue attack (bigger enemys) i do perfect dash so i can able to shoot with my pistol back and stun them but i when i use my shield im getting stunned and again shield is weak for close combat. what is the point of playing bulwark like ,heavy can easily take of the big swarms and sniper can take of the big ones, vanguard is really fast and very maneuverable same as assault, tactical could use his skill on boss and team will do more damage , but bulwarks skill and shield feels so much weak most of the time i jump into the big one and trying to do best combo possible and when i kill him my team took out the rest of the enemys without me,. overall bulwark needs upgrade i think but he is coolest one thats the reason i still play with him

This is more my concern, other classes have good survivability if played well and can destroy enemies I can block things but take ages to kill larger enemies.

[CoolHand]

Originally posted by ...:

Fellas, a bit unrelated but plasma pistol or bolt pistol. I'm only lvl 13 and the charged plasma shot is good in lower levels but i'd like your opinions.

I'm not sure about melee weapon too. I basically only use the power sword. How are the others? So far, I'm enjoying the sword although i've traded out parrying. Any recommended setups? Which version do I go for?

I was using chainsword to start but honestly power sword with the power stance is insane in pvp.

[Sniper]

Originally posted by ...:

Fellas, a bit unrelated but plasma pistol or bolt pistol. I'm only lvl 13 and the charged plasma shot is good in lower levels but i'd like your opinions.

I'm not sure about melee weapon too. I basically only use the power sword. How are the others? So far, I'm enjoying the sword although i've traded out parrying. Any recommended setups? Which version do I go for?

Plasma Pistol, and use it mainly to prevent the Majoris+ from calling in more reinforcements.

[Hexnaught]

Bulwark has been the MVP of each team im in, ngl.. Soaking damage while the other 2 marines are churning through the enemies is so good.

[Reyeme]

Originally posted by Hydra Dominatus:

Actually one of the most desirable ally in team(playing heavy+assault). It's always the guy who will revive you when something gone wrong and we appreciate this.

Yeah but it's one of the least fun classes to play in PvE, horribly low damage, quite a skill based class and no primary. You're only two benefits are the banner and blocking ranged while running, which aren't really that exciting.

Being a team based class in a game that encourages selfishness, dealing with threats solo and splitting up being the lowest damage class in the game isn't fun to play. Also if they want us to tank (hence the low damage and hefty survival skills) GIVE US A DAMN TAUNT!
I play Ogryn tank in Darktide and it's so much more satisfying to play than bulwark!