The grind and ammo...

[Reinhardt Von Helbrecht]

It's going to take you like 5000 hours to unlock everything. Not a fan. I play for fun and because I want to look good doing it, but yeah, it's a bit repetitive tbh... and there is never enough ammo, also not a fan. Also, why tf doesn’t the stuff you unlock in operations multiplayer carry over to PvP multiplayer? That's stupid and adds hundreds of hours more of grinding, so yeah its good and terrible at the same time i am not a fan of grinding for the amount of hours its going to take its ridiculous...

[yourallygod]

it does tho what? can you read?! :D when looking at customization for your spesh maruine

it says to get [insert number here] either through pvp(eternal war) or operations :D if you mean the weapons and perks well uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh unbalanced :) if mixed

[zmanbuilder]

The real fun is in the journey, not the destination.

[Reinhardt Von Helbrecht]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

The real fun is in the journey, not the destination.

you may be right and i may be cynical but i am old now apparently (33) and i feel like its going to take me years to unlock everything now =D -.-

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by После нас тишина:

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

The real fun is in the journey, not the destination.

you may be right and i may be cynical but i am old now apparently (33) and i feel like its going to take me years to unlock everything now =D -.-

Time slowing with age is a thing.

[Hawk]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster:

Originally posted by После нас тишина:

you may be right and i may be cynical but i am old now apparently (33) and i feel like its going to take me years to unlock everything now =D -.-

Time slowing with age is a thing.

Also having better things to do then grind another job but not get paid to "work" is also a "thing".

[Jaxlll]

As far as the cosmetics go, to unlock everything for a particular class is 37 pvp and/or pve missions. They share progress and unlocks (Im not sure you think it doesn't, but the unlock DOES carry over.) So 37 missions per each of the 6 classes is 222 missions total to unlock all the cosmetic armors. Each PVE mission takes between 45-60 minutes depending on difficulty, we will go with the lowest option just to be reasonable. PvP missions are much quicker and can vary in time greatly depending on how bad you are winning/losing (But only the wins count for progress). So 222 missions at 45 minutes each (assuming we dont fail any and lose more time) is 9,990 minutes. That's 166.5 hours of play time to unlock every cosmetic for all the classes. a far cry from your 5000 hour complaint. Even on the liberal end you'd have to be very bad at the game to take longer than 300 hours.

Just because they are actually making you work for the rewards instead of just giving them all out to anyone who wants to pay for it doesn't make this a valid criticism.

[zmanbuilder]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster:

Originally posted by После нас тишина:

you may be right and i may be cynical but i am old now apparently (33) and i feel like its going to take me years to unlock everything now =D -.-

Time slowing with age is a thing.

I got to the point of i do not care to unlock everything as i'm comforted with the fact if i can come back to the game in a few years and still unlock it. I hate fomo.

[JizzJamboree]

Originally posted by Jaxlll:

As far as the cosmetics go, to unlock everything for a particular class is 37 pvp and/or pve missions. They share progress and unlocks (Im not sure you think it doesn't, but the unlock DOES carry over.) So 37 missions per each of the 6 classes is 222 missions total to unlock all the cosmetic armors. Each PVE mission takes between 45-60 minutes depending on difficulty, we will go with the lowest option just to be reasonable. PvP missions are much quicker and can vary in time greatly depending on how bad you are winning/losing (But only the wins count for progress). So 222 missions at 45 minutes each (assuming we dont fail any and lose more time) is 9,990 minutes. That's 166.5 hours of play time to unlock every cosmetic for all the classes. a far cry from your 5000 hour complaint. Even on the liberal end you'd have to be very bad at the game to take longer than 300 hours.

Just because they are actually making you work for the rewards instead of just giving them all out to anyone who wants to pay for it doesn't make this a valid criticism.

166.5 hours is still a lot of time.....

[John Cena]

its actually over 9000 hours if you factor in all the paints and customization sets and banners

[Celdinumbra]

The ammo problem goes away when you start to aim better and when you perk up your marine and weapons. Its all about the damage and how efficiently you apply it. I do think the experience would be so much better without all the ammo micromanagement, especially in pugs where that level 1 bulwark is picking all the ammo when you're doing all the carrying.

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

Originally posted by MasterBlaster:

Time slowing with age is a thing.

I got to the point of i do not care to unlock everything as i'm comforted with the fact if i can come back to the game in a few years and still unlock it. I hate fomo.

That's probably the way to do it. My PC can't even run it, so until the hardware I want to build with becomes available, I'm ridin' the pine & serfing for git-gud tips.

[PewPew]

The meta to progression is to hold W, shift and then roll once or twice rinse repeat. Every checkpoint/elevator deletes enemies behind you. So just find a map you are very comfortable with and grind that.

How long does it take to max out a class this way? With ai probably less than 6 hours. (stage 2 with good rng)

It's there as an option, and ammo is not a problem because you don't really kill stuff.

[Reinhardt Von Helbrecht]

Originally posted by Jaxlll:

As far as the cosmetics go, to unlock everything for a particular class is 37 pvp and/or pve missions. They share progress and unlocks (Im not sure you think it doesn't, but the unlock DOES carry over.) So 37 missions per each of the 6 classes is 222 missions total to unlock all the cosmetic armors. Each PVE mission takes between 45-60 minutes depending on difficulty, we will go with the lowest option just to be reasonable. PvP missions are much quicker and can vary in time greatly depending on how bad you are winning/losing (But only the wins count for progress). So 222 missions at 45 minutes each (assuming we dont fail any and lose more time) is 9,990 minutes. That's 166.5 hours of play time to unlock every cosmetic for all the classes. a far cry from your 5000 hour complaint. Even on the liberal end you'd have to be very bad at the game to take longer than 300 hours.

Just because they are actually making you work for the rewards instead of just giving them all out to anyone who wants to pay for it doesn't make this a valid criticism.

Okay, I may have gotten some things wrong. If it carries over to PvP, then that's not too bad, but yeah, 166 hours is a lot when you, you know, have a job and a family and all that =D

[Reinhardt Von Helbrecht]

Originally posted by PewPew:

The meta to progression is to hold W, shift and then roll once or twice rinse repeat. Every checkpoint/elevator deletes enemies behind you. So just find a map you are very comfortable with and grind that.

How long does it take to max out a class this way? With ai probably less than 6 hours. (stage 2 with good rng)

It's there as an option, and ammo is not a problem because you don't really kill stuff.

what is this magic you speak of...

[Reinhardt Von Helbrecht]

Originally posted by SHOKK♥:

The Armoury Data not being consistently gained is annoying. I'm running higher difficulties and not a damn Servo Skull in sight. No Miniboss showing up. Even though I get increased rewards for the higher difficulty, feels pretty bad to run through the pain to just not get what you came for lol.

i feel your pain no data and i die a little inside every time...