Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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Narrator Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:31pm
Bulwark needs a buff AND a nerf.
Shielding is currently too overpowered in PvP.

I suggest it having a health bar somewhat like the current armour, or perhaps an overheat system like the plasma weaponry.

But it also needs to give points for damage blocked, otherwise you just sit at the bottom of the scoreboard.

Let me know what you guys think
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RubyCante Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:35pm 
on PVE Bulwark need a massive buff as in their parry system is broken/stuck, most of the time when you tap it instead hold the button, you hold up the shield and put it down instead of you know parrying
zmanbuilder Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by BDB Narrator/Ariona:
Shielding is currently too overpowered in PvP.

I suggest it having a health bar somewhat like the current armour, or perhaps an overheat system like the plasma weaponry.

But it also needs to give points for damage blocked, otherwise you just sit at the bottom of the scoreboard.

Let me know what you guys think

They are super weak to melee in pvp, shoot them to apply pressure and then go in fo the melee, assault makes short work of them in that regard.
P0tato P0tato Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:40pm 
You can just play Vanguard and stun them. They'll die immediately to you or your team.
Originally posted by RubyCante:
on PVE Bulwark need a massive buff as in their parry system is broken/stuck, most of the time when you tap it instead hold the button, you hold up the shield and put it down instead of you know parrying
idk i think the shield has a set weapon characteristic of "block" which has the worst or absent parry window, then theres "balanced" and "fencing" which have better parry potential in weapons. i also noticed the only way for me to parry with the shield was to double tap the parry button before an attack, it sets a different animation and actually parry from what ive tested compared to when you only tap the parry button once like with other weapons. other weapons seem to parry after tapping it once. i think its a weird characteristic of the shield itself.
Kiff Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:41pm 
bulwark is weird, blocking is all they really do, armor is useless in melee and you might aswell change class if there is a vanguard in the lobby, honestly they need to bring parries into pvp and i'd start with the bulwark and maybe consider adding it to everything minus combat knife and thunder hammer
Wayvez Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by BDB Narrator/Ariona:
Shielding is currently too overpowered in PvP.

I suggest it having a health bar somewhat like the current armour, or perhaps an overheat system like the plasma weaponry.

But it also needs to give points for damage blocked, otherwise you just sit at the bottom of the scoreboard.

Let me know what you guys think

I think your missing the point of the Bulwark. In PvP your suppose to play around your team right? So, the Bulwark class is to get the other teams attention and make them choose to either shot at you or shot at the other person that is moving with you. If we go with you suggestion and put a cool down or a health bar on the storm shield your effectively killing the Bulwark class in both PvP and PvE since nothing changes from Operations to Eternal War when it comes to the character classes we play.

And also the game is still in early access in a way since the majority of the player base still can't play it due to them not pre-ordering the game. What I think is maybe we should relax on calling for nerfs to things until the whole game is released to the public. This game is pretty balanced for the most part if you want to compare it to other games. It just has some glaring issues in the stability department that need more focus then anything PvP related right now in my opinion.
Narrator Sep 7, 2024 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Wayvez:

I think your missing the point of the Bulwark. In PvP your suppose to play around your team right? So, the Bulwark class is to get the other teams attention and make them choose to either shot at you or shot at the other person that is moving with you. If we go with you suggestion and put a cool down or a health bar on the storm shield your effectively killing the Bulwark class in both PvP and PvE since nothing changes from Operations to Eternal War when it comes to the character classes we play.

I mean, unless (as stated earlier) a vanguard stun the bulwark, or a well placed electric or krak grenade gets used, the bulwark can stand infront of their team, and they can shoot out from behind him, without the bulwark having to do anything. There's no counter play to it, and it gives no points to play like that to the player, but it wins games.

But fair enough, perhaps waiting a while longer before calling for things like this is for the best
zmanbuilder Sep 7, 2024 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by BDB Narrator/Ariona:
Originally posted by Wayvez:

I think your missing the point of the Bulwark. In PvP your suppose to play around your team right? So, the Bulwark class is to get the other teams attention and make them choose to either shot at you or shot at the other person that is moving with you. If we go with you suggestion and put a cool down or a health bar on the storm shield your effectively killing the Bulwark class in both PvP and PvE since nothing changes from Operations to Eternal War when it comes to the character classes we play.

I mean, unless (as stated earlier) a vanguard stun the bulwark, or a well placed electric or krak grenade gets used, the bulwark can stand infront of their team, and they can shoot out from behind him, without the bulwark having to do anything. There's no counter play to it, and it gives no points to play like that to the player, but it wins games.

But fair enough, perhaps waiting a while longer before calling for things like this is for the best

The enemy team can do the same, and as a bulwark, being alone is death sentence, assault will 2 shot you with a hammer a lot, i learned to keep looking up when playing as a bulwark.
Real LagMonster Sep 8, 2024 @ 3:39pm 
nahhhh theyre squishy and weak easy to kill with jetpack slam down on them twice for easy kill or melee fight them casuse chainsword is booty or team and i do feel the sheild breaks sometimes
SpectralFX Sep 12, 2024 @ 7:44pm 
Guys, Bulwark as a wood plank and a pistol.

That thing don't block hammers at all.

Counters (which is what its meant to be good at) are bugged due to high latency and do nothing.

There is like a front arc (like less than 45 degree angle) to block BULLETS with (strong melee push the shield aside)

Bulwark is BY FAR the weakest in pvp lol
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Date Posted: Sep 7, 2024 @ 7:31pm
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