GW's stance towards diversity (official)

[MRTurnips]

The Imperium Is Driven by Hate. Warhammer Is Not.
There are no goodies in the Warhammer 40,000 universe.

None.

Especially not the Imperium of Man.

Warhammer 40,000 isn’t just grimdark. It’s the grimmest, darkest.

The Imperium of Man stands as a cautionary tale of what could happen should the very worst of Humanity’s lust for power and extreme, unyielding xenophobia set in. Like so many aspects of Warhammer 40,000, the Imperium of Man is satirical.

For clarity: satire is the use of humour, irony, or exaggeration, displaying people’s vices or a system’s flaws for scorn, derision, and ridicule. Something doesn’t have to be wacky or laugh-out-loud funny to be satire. The derision is in the setting’s amplification of a tyrannical, genocidal regime, turned up to 11. The Imperium is not an aspirational state, outside of the in-universe perspectives of those who are slaves to its systems. It’s a monstrous civilisation, and its monstrousness is plain for all to see.

That said, certain real-world hate groups – and adherents of historical ideologies better left in the past – sometimes seek to claim intellectual properties for their own enjoyment, and to co-opt them for their own agendas.

We’ve said it before, but a reminder about what we believe in:

“We believe in and support a community united by shared values of mutual kindness and respect. Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. We will never accept nor condone any form of prejudice, hatred, or abuse in our company, or in the Warhammer hobby.”

If you come to a Games Workshop event or store and behave to the contrary, including wearing the symbols of real-world hate groups, you will be asked to leave. We won’t let you participate. We don’t want your money. We don’t want you in the Warhammer community.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/ (2021)

Also Warhammer is for everyone

https://x.com/warhammer/status/1268665798467432449 (2020)

If you have an ideological problem with this statement or those who support it, reconsider your position within the community.

This community has a problem with widespread manipulative rhetoric where everyone who speaks for, neutral or against, feeds it.

A fake problem is being created, inflating it with a biased narrative and fracturing the community.

In the end, an extremely toxic and hostile environment is created for everyone, as those who do not follow the rhetoric look down on those who do, regardless of which "side" they have taken.

the wokespotters and politicspotters also feed it.

[VulkanNo1]

Publicado originalmente por Yagger:

Publicado originalmente por EleventhStar:

ofcourse there is no evidence, it's private information within companies.

but there is plenty of proof of amazon having diversity demands in other tv shows. you can decide for yourself if the timing of female custodes is related to that or not.

games workshop doesn't actually give a ♥♥♥♥ about their ip as long as they get payed, the female custodes was a paycheck from amazon

God Bless Henry Cavil

[Bray of Cats]

Publicado originalmente por Yagger:

Publicado originalmente por EleventhStar:

ofcourse there is no evidence, it's private information within companies.

but there is plenty of proof of amazon having diversity demands in other tv shows. you can decide for yourself if the timing of female custodes is related to that or not.

games workshop doesn't actually give a ♥♥♥♥ about their ip as long as they get payed, the female custodes was a paycheck from amazon

You realised Turnips wanted evidence right, not more conjecture?

[Pharis Gough]

Publicado originalmente por Eightball:

Publicado originalmente por Soundwave:

is this the same company that purged community fan animation aka free advertisment? it is damn wouldnt take anything gw says seriously

Yeah, they didn't do that. At all. Might wanna get your news from somewhere that has their facts right.

The only time anyone had to take anything down was the Astartes creator, because he signed a contract willingly with GW to transfer the rights of his creation to them. The community then attacked him for this (how dare he take a job and want payment based off the back of his work?!).

GW has never made anyone take down fan content. Ever. They even let the creators they sign contracts with keep their patreons up. Whatever you heard is clearly fake news.

Emperor text to speech comes to mind.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Publicado originalmente por Pharis Gough:

Publicado originalmente por Eightball:

Yeah, they didn't do that. At all. Might wanna get your news from somewhere that has their facts right.

The only time anyone had to take anything down was the Astartes creator, because he signed a contract willingly with GW to transfer the rights of his creation to them. The community then attacked him for this (how dare he take a job and want payment based off the back of his work?!).

GW has never made anyone take down fan content. Ever. They even let the creators they sign contracts with keep their patreons up. Whatever you heard is clearly fake news.

Emperor text to speech comes to mind.

Afaik he didn't actually have to delete any content. He just ended the series prematurely

[Aya]

Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:

Publicado originalmente por Pharis Gough:

Emperor text to speech comes to mind.

Afaik he didn't actually have to delete any content. He just ended the series prematurely

IIRC, Alfabusa's departure from the TTS series is primarily the response to an observation of multiple fan works getting taken down, such as The Last Church and I think a couple of Flash Gitz videos were also removed.

[Googledebunker]

Publicado originalmente por Furia:

the LGBTQ+ need to go create their own LGBTQ+ stuff instead of trying to change other people's beloved work that's been there for ages.

Maybe anti-wokes should make their own stuff instead of claiming other people's work for themselves.

[Bray of Cats]

Publicado originalmente por Marlon Brandolorian:

Publicado originalmente por Furia:

the LGBTQ+ need to go create their own LGBTQ+ stuff instead of trying to change other people's beloved work that's been there for ages.

Maybe anti-wokes should make their own stuff instead of claiming other people's work for themselves.

But how will they get stolen valor wins then? 😿

[Zogtar]

Like...

I don't know what's dumber, the people falling for the bait, or the people who're writing the bait.

We literally have a race that just has to have more of their race around, and by believing, yellow explosives are somehow more effective. Brain boyz be damned.

In a fantasy setting who cares who's gay, white, fat, a republican, a talking taco, or if space marines grow tits and face breasts overnight?

If you do, you're too attached to a fantasy world built around selling plastic and metal unpainted toys.

Make your own multi-billion dollar empire and deal with thousands of idiots raging over small insignificant bs. Feel what GW feels on the daily...

[Bray of Cats]

Publicado originalmente por Zogtar:

Like...

I don't know what's dumber, the people falling for the bait, or the people who're writing the bait.

In a fantasy setting who cares who's gay, white, fat, a republican, a talking taco, or if space marines grow tits and face breasts overnight?

If you do, you're too attached to a fantasy world built around selling plastic and metal unpainted toys.

Make your own multi-billion dollar empire and deal with thousands of idiots raging over small insignificant bs. Feel what GW feels on the daily...

Some of the bait here is pretty obvious and still works, so.....

[Mints]

Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedCats Bray:

Publicado originalmente por Ragnar Losbroek:

"Also Warhammer is for everyone"

Nope. we are gatekeeping the ♥♥♥♥ out of it. Go make your own soy filled, DEI slop.

They are gate keeping too.

You can't gatekeep people that are already inside the walls and have been for years.

[VulkanNo1]

Publicado originalmente por Zogtar:

Like...

I don't know what's dumber, the people falling for the bait, or the people who're writing the bait.

We literally have a race that just has to have more of their race around, and by believing, yellow explosives are somehow more effective. Brain boyz be damned.

In a fantasy setting who cares who's gay, white, fat, a republican, a talking taco, or if space marines grow tits and face breasts overnight?

If you do, you're too attached to a fantasy world built around selling plastic and metal unpainted toys.

Make your own multi-billion dollar empire and deal with thousands of idiots raging over small insignificant bs. Feel what GW feels on the daily...

I care. because i grew up with this. This is a passion of mine. if your not passionate about the universe then it will not matter to you. But I see that which i love getting destroyed day in day out. That is why I and so many people are arguing back. because this is a passion for us.

[Googledebunker]

Publicado originalmente por Zogtar:

Like...

I don't know what's dumber, the people falling for the bait, or the people who're writing the bait.

We literally have a race that just has to have more of their race around, and by believing, yellow explosives are somehow more effective. Brain boyz be damned.

In a fantasy setting who cares who's gay, white, fat, a republican, a talking taco, or if space marines grow tits and face breasts overnight?

If you do, you're too attached to a fantasy world built around selling plastic and metal unpainted toys.

Make your own multi-billion dollar empire and deal with thousands of idiots raging over small insignificant bs. Feel what GW feels on the daily...

My guess is it's the people whining over an IP they don't own, and pretending that gay people have some special demanding super power that forces companies to do their bidding rather than the reality that these companies have access to actual analytical data on their customer demographics and want to cater to more people to get more business.

They repeatedly seem to get reality and fiction mixed up since they keep arguing about stuff no one is even talking about, and justify being disrespectful to others because the game is in a "grimdark" setting.

"loving an IP more" doesn't keep the lights on, if they truly loved it then they should've bought more figures and/or shares in the company.

Also not dressing up as a Nazi at a public tournament, since that won't go over well with most customers and companies.

[EmperorVolo]

Wasn't this in response to something that happened at a tournament? I mean this is in regards to something that happened at a tournament not about the lore or anything like that.

[MRTurnips]

This thread precedes the giga jesterfarm, we are not responsible for the fact that trolls came to easily feed on the manipulable "antiwokes" and turned the forum into hell.

Unlike them, we continue to recognize them as part of the community and we only want there to be peace and harmony and end this forced and stupid social "war".

[Aya]

Publicado originalmente por Volo:

Wasn't this in response to something that happened at a tournament?

Yes, with openly racist groups appearing at said tournament. Also keep in mind that during that time, most Warhammer 40K tournaments are held in GW hobby shops.