Lore questions for experts:

[Skree]

1)an enemy, a Xeno or a Heretic, surrenders, goes to his knees, and says he/she wants to repent and surrender, it's not a trick, he/she is sincere. What would an ultramarine do? Accept the surrender or kill the enemy anyway?

2)What does Tzeentch do to a conquered planet? The other chaos gods are quite clear what would they do... but what about the thousand sons and their cultists? They don't seem the kind of people who would torture without reason or kill for pleasure. So what would happen to a civilian who wants to stay alive and doesn't fight them?

3)These transhuman warriors should be the epitome of humanity. Skilled, intelligent, strong, etcetera. So WHY are there morons among them?

4)How powerful or important is a chaplain of the ultramarines? What's his rank compared to a leutenant or captain? where does he stand in the chain of command?

5) A traitor space marine, one of the traitor legions, sincerely and truthfully wants to return serving the empire. Could it happen?

[Solvem Probler]

Kill, Change, Bad Writing, Above Squad Leaders

[Darth Revan]

i am not an expert but as far as i know heretics, xenos and traitors deserve death just for existing as far as the imperium is concerned so i guess unless the enemy/xenos/heretic in question is suspected to have some mission critical information they would end thair existence right on the spot, mercy is not really a trait that is seen positively in the imperium

[shogunsmurf]

1. Interogate and get information, then execute.
2. When treachery is your weapon, you're bound to be betrayed yourself, any conquest will undo itself.
3. Indoctrination and conditioning, be glad they are morons or they would figure out normal meatbags are beneath them and should be their slaves.
4. Despite a King being at the high of the fuedal system, how many tended to disregard their bishops ? that's your answer.

[Doomvora]

1) dead
2) only Tzeentch knows
3) poor writing and/or trauma
4) Chaplains ensures adherence to the chapter's doctrine, making sure they mesh well with the others, so moderately important

[Yrghul]

All space marines are fanatics to their primarch and the emperor, even if some space marine chapters revere the emperor as a god, others revere the emperor as a great, intelligent, visionary, the only chance of survival for humanity,...
By fanatics, i mean they are trained like warrior monk, indoctrinated to hate the enemies of the imperium and mankind, so even the nicest loyalist space marine would kill without hesitation those who are not part of the imperium.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

1. Its very unlikely that they would surrender, because that would mean to betray their masters and that can have uncanny consequnces. But lets assume they do anyways. Either they get killed anyways or will be given to the inquisition wich either kill them or torture them to death or they turn them into some mindless drone wich gets killed in battle ...

2. Well its ofc easy to say he will change it for the changes, but that a bit to easy in my opinion. It requires a lot sometimes to keep things going and he might have to work for a change you know xD

3. They are tools of war and as someone who is not a nobody but will not be named here once said. Afetr the war is done (wich will never happen) there is no place, no purpose anymore for them. Thats partly a reason why the emperor mkilled his first Angles of death.

4. That i can answer and im also not interested in it ;-)

[Skree]

Huh. I guess geneva convention isn't very popular among space marines then XD

[Balm]

Originally posted by Skree:

he/she is sincere.

1. Blam!
2. Entirely turned into sentient cotton candy.
3. Loyalty is everything. It doesn't matter if a space marine is a moron, if he will walk into hell.
4. Chaplain is like an inspector general and spiritual leader in one. He roots out non-compliance with chapter law and punishes it also.

[Yrghul]

The chapelains are the equivalant of commissars from the imperial guard, but more "gentle", they will fisrt determine if a space marine is corrupted or in doubt.
If a space marine is in doubt, the space marine will be given moral guidance to dispel those doubts.
If a space marine is suspected of treason or corruption, that space marine will be judged, and depending of the results of investigations and accusation, they will be killed if judged corrupted/traitor, if unsure, they will be given penance tasks (such as Titus who served in the Deathwatch for a hundred years for suspision of corruption at the end of space marine 1).

[Skree]

Another question. A traitor space marine, one of the traitor legions, sincerely and truthfully wants to return serving the empire. Could it happen?

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Skree:

Huh. I guess geneva convention isn't very popular among space marines then XD

genever convention does not exist anymore, this is the year 40.000 AD, humanity is united into a imperium of religiouse fanatics with no regard for lifes of any kind.

seriously, AI is outlawed so instead of AI the imperium uses forcefully lobotomized humans as servitor drones, they even have cherubs.

there is no freedom of speech, no freedom of religion and no kind of tollerance for anything that is not human, anything that goes against the imperial religion and anything that goes against the imperium and for 99% of humanity life is miserable

warhammer 40k is one of the most dark and depressing fictional universes ever created and there is no good guy faction, every faction is some flavor of evil

[Yrghul]

Originally posted by Skree:

Huh. I guess geneva convention isn't very popular among space marines then XD

All the factions of the warhammer 40k unverse are bad, the only difference is if tey accept they are bad (drukari, ork) or if they try to convince others/themselves that what they are doing is good/necessary for their survival (imperium of man, aeldari, tau) or just see everyone else as dinner (tyrannid).

[Eidrog]

1a) What happens when a Xenos surrenders to an Ultramarine
Depends on the Xenos, and the mission requirements. . . Extermination 99% of the time.

1b) What happens when a heretic surrenders to an Ultramarine
Depends on the Heretic, and the mission requirements. . . Extermination 98% of the time. Sometimes a heretic can be redeemed, since one can be duped or mislead into heresy - but no mercy to a traitor who knows they're committing heresy!

2)What does Tzeentch do to a conquered planet?
He sets a plan in motion that only one as long-lived as a Chaos God can understand

3) Why are there morons in the Space Marines?
Bad writers. Or comedic effect.

4)How important is a chaplain of the Ultramarines? What's his rank compared to a leutenant or captain?
Chaplains are warrior-priests that minister to the spiritual and psychological well-being of Space Marine chapters. It is an officer rank and there are Ranks within the Chaplain Office:

Master of Sanctity - The Spiritual head of the chapter and commander of the Reclusium
Reclusiarch - Leads ceremonies across the entire chapter, and trains new company Chaplains
(Sometimes the above ranks are combined into the same post)
Chaplain - Standard Rank
Judiciar - Chaplains in Training

Space Marine chapters place a great deal of importance to the honored marines that become chaplains. While a captain or lieutenant may outrank a chaplain, they will often defer to the wisdom of a chaplain, especially when it comes to spiritual matters.

[Skree]

Thanks to everyone who is answering anyway. I have a cursory knowledge of the setting, but it's nice to hear that.

I admit i would have liked, in my mind, to think that perhaps a sincere surrender would be met with mercy and a sliver of open mindedness.

And i honestly am/was quite convinced that Aeldari could be seen as "good", were they not a living snack for slaanesh or in war.

[Silhouette]

1) If the enemy was an active combatant, dead, no matter the circumstances. If the enemy were a heretic but didn't realize they were under the corrupting influence of chaos, possible forgiveness, followed by a quick bolt to the back of the head, or perhaps turned into a servitor (death is probably preferable). If the enemy were a traitor, meaning they know full-well they were betraying humanity, dead.

The only way a xenos is going to survive an encounter with a Space Marine is on the rare occasions they're allied against another foe. And even then, that alliance is likely only going to last seconds longer than the last foe they teamed-up against.

2) Dwelling on such subjects is HERESY! You'll go MAD pondering such things! (lol, likely they'd force them to worship Tzeentch, and engage in acts that increases Tzeentch's power and influence.)

3) Yeeeeah it's bad writting.

4) Chaplains are an "Officer Role" that are responsible for the spiritual and psychological well-being of their fellow battle-brothers; and in a world where the "Chaos" is a thing, this is an important role. O_O

I think Chaplains are out-ranked by Captains (although a Captain would be REALLY FOOLISH to not heed a Chaplain's wisdom). I believe they're above lieutenants, but even if they aren't, a lieutenant would be crazy to act against the words of a Chaplain. o_O