Is everyone a primaris?

[Borschik]

So, are there any normal-sized marines in the game? Everyone seems to be just primaris on your barge. What about the chaos marines? They are the same size, but they should not be.

[Mad Max]

Honestly in the first level when you are in the Deathwatch, Titus seemed like he was the same size than he is after he's upgraded.

[DefinitelyNotMonk]

I had that thought, but I think they are smaller, their helmets give the impression of being larger, I mean, we measure up to their terminators.

[Eidrog]

Titus starts as a firstborn marine. : )

[DefinitelyNotMonk]

Originally posted by Eidrog:

Titus starts as a firstborn marine. : )

Primaris are bigger than original marines, most are created as primaris, very few get surgery to 'upgrade' from original to primaris.

[Monkeyjunky]

I don't think being a Primaris really affected things in SM2 at all tbh, I've heard Primaris are just a way for GW to sell more figures.

[Turbo Thorsten]

Originally posted by Monkeyjunky:

I don't think being a Primaris really affected things in SM2 at all tbh, I've heard Primaris are just a way for GW to sell more figures.

GW is moving away from the Split anyway. Terminators can be both and basically a Space Marine is a Space Marine

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Monkeyjunky:

I don't think being a Primaris really affected things in SM2 at all tbh, I've heard Primaris are just a way for GW to sell more figures.

They're bigger models with better stats in the rules, so that people can't simply use their old Marine models as Primaris without feeling lame. GW is in the business of selling sculpted plastic and plastic has a long lifespan, so they needed ways to sell more to people who already bought everything.

[CadaveR]

Not the same size, chaos marines are about the size of Titus pre rubicon.
More or less the same size of real chaos sm miniatures vs primaris.

[jackx]

Well, there was a miniature design update, first for the SM range, and then slowly for the CSM range as well.
Unfortunately, someone forgot to tell the setting/lore writers that with the goal of selling more miniatures, they wouldn't stop after updating half of their most successful range, so in the meantime the superior genius of Cawl and the Primaris happened.
So now we're stuck with the clearly-but-actually-not-really-it's-mostly-marketing-superior Primaris.
And lore-wise, with significantly more complex logistics for the Indomitus Crusade than the Great Crusade, while operating in much worse overall conditions. Superior genius indeed.

All this because apparently, plastic crack addicts couldn't be relied upon to buy new, high-quality sculpts otherwise.

[Mono]

You can see the difference in Titus' height after going through Rubicon best when you see him in the first game next to a regular Astra Militarum soldier and then compare him to the soldiers in the second game. I would say he is about 20 cm taller since he became Primaris.