Who is Stronger? Darktide Crew or Titus and his Marines?

[Hexagoros]

If we accept what we see on screen at face value (no accounting for plot armor, developer intent, or skewed power levels), such that “what we see is what is actually happening” – who do you think is stronger?

The Darktide Crew or Titus and his Marines?

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Black Knight:

A boss fight in darktide is a captain in carapace armor. A boss fight in Space marine 2 is a Carnifex. This is straight forward.

There are also Ogryns in carapace armor, Plague Ogryns, Chaos Spawns and Beasts of Nurgle that the Darktide crew fights and defeats. Daemonhosts too. The horde numbers are way more massive in Darktide as well, with thousands of enemies killed per mission against the hundreds killed in Space Marine 2.

But yeah, Darktide is a more grounded, lower power level game and it's the best at its genre of L4D type first person shooter/melee hybrids. Space Marine 2 isn't quite the best third person shooter/melee hybrid game out there, though it is the best Space Marine sim of course and likely to keep that title forever.

[The Grand Mugwump]

Originally posted by 2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE:

Originally posted by donder172:

Titus fought and beaten a Chaos Lord turned Daemon Prince. There is no way the Darktide Crew is going to one-up that one.

Rejects could swim in the cauldron of Nurgle as long as the Veteran uses Voice of Command to keep the Toughness bar at blessed levels so it's not a problem with some Batman levels of preparation time.

The Rejects have plot armor due to bad storywriting. All that wading through nurgle gardens full of pus, filth and disease with exposed skin and without breathing protection that is never mentioned or even addressed in the story is a plot hole.

[Korppi]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by Black Knight:

A boss fight in darktide is a captain in carapace armor. A boss fight in Space marine 2 is a Carnifex. This is straight forward.

There are also Ogryns in carapace armor, Plague Ogryns, Chaos Spawns and Beasts of Nurgle that the Darktide crew fights and defeats. Daemonhosts too. The horde numbers are way more massive in Darktide as well, with thousands of enemies killed per mission against the hundreds killed in Space Marine 2.

The minibosses in Darktide are abit of a stretch but theres no real alternative to make them interesting so they had to bring in some unrealistic ones to fight for the fun factor. A beast of nurgle not to mention daemonhost are way too strong for the rejects if it was lore accurate.

Also the hordes in darktide might be larger but they are weaker, merely cultists.
Tyranids however are on another level, a hormagaunt is probably the size of a mutant charger or doge from darktide and definitely way more dangerous considering all of them can jump a very long distance at you, none in the darktide hordes do that, only specials.

Primaris marines are also significantly larger than the characters in darktide (excluding ogryn) and thus their hordes and enemies seem similar but a tyranid warrior is like a plague ogryn size and those are part of a regular horde in SM2 instead of a special spawn.

Ogryns in darktide are comparable to tyranid warriors but they are alot slower and dont really do longer range jump attacks either.

You might have numerically smaller hordes in SM2 but they are far stronger entities.

Then theres the carnifex, nothing in darktide is that size.

[I LIVE AGAIN]

if devs of darktide had balls they would end ingame's story with characters facing off a nurgle space marine and oh dear all of them painfully dying

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by The Grand Mugwump:

The Rejects have plot armor due to bad storywriting.

You mean like 40k in general?

All that wading through nurgle gardens full of pus, filth and disease with exposed skin and without breathing protection that is never mentioned or even addressed in the story is a plot hole.

It doesn't have to be addressed, just like most other things in the setting, since it's easily chucked up to either faith based magic or the Rejects being granted low to medium levels of Mary Sue plot armor like any other named character in order to enable the story.

[Mrs,Doubtfire]

Darktide crew can easily kill some marines. Just stand back and watch them swing what ever weapon they have for the rest of the week.

[Mister Magician]

Originally posted by 2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE:

Originally posted by The Grand Mugwump:

The Rejects have plot armor due to bad storywriting.

You mean like 40k in general?

All that wading through nurgle gardens full of pus, filth and disease with exposed skin and without breathing protection that is never mentioned or even addressed in the story is a plot hole.

It doesn't have to be addressed, just like most other things in the setting, since it's easily chucked up to either faith based magic or the Rejects being granted low to medium levels of Mary Sue plot armor like any other named character in order to enable the story.

I'm noticing everyone trolling by saying stuff like this has an anime picture.

[Oldkye]

Ciaphas Cain, I know he wasn't the expected winner but to be fair he wasn't expecting it either.

[donder172]

Originally posted by Oldkye:

Ciaphas Cain, I know he wasn't the expected winner but to be fair he wasn't expecting it either.

He isn't part of the Darktide Crew, though.

[Butcher]

In DoW2 ogryn squad could easily maul any marine infantry with exception of terminators. So ogryn team from Darktide would easily maul equal team from Space Marine.

[Odiniichan]

Originally posted by Doomvora:

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Who is Stronger? Darktide Crew or Titus and his Marines?

Tell us you know nothing about 40k without telling us you know nothing about 40k.

a real 40k fan doesn't shame another potential 40k fan but welcomes them and teaches them the awesome lore and world building.

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Originally posted by 2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE:

You mean like 40k in general?



It doesn't have to be addressed, just like most other things in the setting, since it's easily chucked up to either faith based magic or the Rejects being granted low to medium levels of Mary Sue plot armor like any other named character in order to enable the story.

I'm noticing everyone trolling by saying stuff like this has an anime picture.

To be fair, I did say in the OP "If we accept what we see on screen at face value (no accounting for plot armor, developer intent, or skewed power levels), such that “what we see is what is actually happening” – who do you think is stronger?"

So my initial question was - if we accept the levels of plot armor in 'both' games as accurate - who is stronger?

Basically, who's demonstrating greater levels of strength based on what we see on screen?

[Goblets]

Pure lorewise obviously titus and the space marines.

Gameplay wise.... darktide, me 1v1 a chaos spawn with my little knife and cutting down thousands of heretics and other abominations with with my chicken arms. I wonder if our rejects in Darktide are empowered by the chaos gods themselves.

[Chaos]

Titus's team duh.

It's just the nature of tide game that make you to be "normal" people but keep throwing ♥♥♥♥ like deamon host in your way and make it beatable since it's an action game, so people get confused sometime.

But the tide's crew will never achieved any of that ♥♥♥♥ if it was lore accurate.

[Fraktal]

Lore wise Titus.

Gameplay wise Darktide rejects.