Who is Stronger? Darktide Crew or Titus and his Marines?

[Hexagoros]

If we accept what we see on screen at face value (no accounting for plot armor, developer intent, or skewed power levels), such that “what we see is what is actually happening” – who do you think is stronger?

The Darktide Crew or Titus and his Marines?

[Lord Adorable]

引用自 PewPew：

引用自 Null：

With how clunky combat is. and how weak it makes marines feel. Darktide crew would wipe the floor with them. Lore wise Marines obviously, gameplay though. Darktide crew hands down.

This. I dont think the marines can kill a single psyker. (I know nothing about the lore but this game really do treat the marines as the weakest form of soldiers in a starcraft game if I was to compare them to one)

"Marines can't kill a single Psyker".
They can and do regularly defeat Psykers much more powerful than Human Psykers, including Eldar Farseers and-in this game- Chaos Sorcerers of Tzeentch, the literal God of Magic.

[Hexagoros]

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

引用自 PewPew：

This. I dont think the marines can kill a single psyker. (I know nothing about the lore but this game really do treat the marines as the weakest form of soldiers in a starcraft game if I was to compare them to one)

"Marines can't kill a single Psyker".
They can and do regularly defeat Psykers much more powerful than Human Psykers, including Eldar Farseers and-in this game- Chaos Sorcerers of Tzeentch, the literal God of Magic.

And the Darktide Crew fought under a literal tree of Nurgle and lived to tell the tale.

The Marines in Space Marine 2 step on Warrior puss bomb and are sent coughing and wheezing for a solid 30 seconds. The entire screen turns green to emphasize how hurt they are.

[Lord Adorable]

引用自 Hexagoros：

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

Titus alone could body every Darktidec class with one arm and a leg missing while sipping tea with his free hand.
Heck, a Scout Marine could do the same.

And the Darktide Ogryn can duel a Chaos Spawn with a latrine shovel. True story! Actual ♥♥♥♥ shovel to the head from the Darktide Ogryn kills the Chaos Spawn.

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

Their armor is "weak" because Tyranids repiadly evolve to counter threats, so they can tear apart even Space Marines pretty quickly if they're not careful.

And Nurgle constantly evolves his diseases, and yet the Darktide Crew breaths it all in.

Who says the Darktide rejects won't turn into Nurgle zombies at some point? They are expendable after all and will probably be executed as a safety measure once Atoma is secured.

IF it is secured.

[RobeRonin]

darktide crew they rip and tear and a much faster pace ! with how space marines move in this game i would be fairly happy to fight 1 my self in real life with out there power armour weapons they look worse then normal humans !

[Lord Adorable]

引用自 Hexagoros：

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

"Marines can't kill a single Psyker".
They can and do regularly defeat Psykers much more powerful than Human Psykers, including Eldar Farseers and-in this game- Chaos Sorcerers of Tzeentch, the literal God of Magic.

And the Darktide Crew fought under a literal tree of Nurgle and lived to tell the tale.

The Marines in Space Marine 2 step on Warrior puss bomb and are sent coughing and wheezing for a solid 30 seconds.

What in the Emperor's holy name are you talking about? He mentioned Psykers and I replied with more Psykers, what's this about bombs?

[Hexagoros]

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

Who says the Darktide rejects won't turn into Nurgle zombies at some point? They are expendable after all and will probably be executed as a safety measure once Atoma is secured.

IF it is secured.

Never shown on screen.

In fact, it's never even hinted that the Darktide Crew are harmed by the Nurgle diseases. Judging by what we see on screen, they are functionally immune.

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

引用自 Hexagoros：

And the Darktide Crew fought under a literal tree of Nurgle and lived to tell the tale.

The Marines in Space Marine 2 step on Warrior puss bomb and are sent coughing and wheezing for a solid 30 seconds.

Hekcyou talking about? He mentioned Psykers and I replied with more Psykers, what's this about bombs?

You talked about the marines taking on Tzeentch's magic, and so I gave a fairly significant example of the Darktide Crew taking on Nurgle's magic.

So yes, the Darktide Crew have 'also' fought Chaos magic and lived to tell the tale.

[tyke]

My character in Darktide is way stronger than all of these Ultramarines in featured in the game. In Darktide I can indefinitely kill heavily armoured chaos ogryns.

[Lord Adorable]

引用自 Darth Revan：

isnt the reason for why we dont have chaos space marines as boss enemies in darktide that they would be too strong to beat for the crew?

You are correct. It's also the same reason why we don't fight Chaos Lords in Vermintide.
The strongest Chaos enemies we face there are Chosen, but only twice. Not even Exalted Heroes, just Chosen, who are mid-tier at best on the Chaos hierarchy.

[SolusiRadikal]

When you see a Space Marine joined the war, is when the war itself has escalated beyond control

[VelxraTV]

among us did it better OP

[tyke]

引用自 Lord Deplorable：

引用自 Darth Revan：

isnt the reason for why we dont have chaos space marines as boss enemies in darktide that they would be too strong to beat for the crew?

You are correct. It's also the same reason why we don't fight Chaos Lords in Vermintide.
The strongest Chaos enemies we face there are Chosen, but only twice. Not even Exalted Heroes, just Chosen, who are mid-tier at best on the Chaos hierarchy.

A Chaos Space Marine is more powerful than a Chaos Spawn or a Beast of Nurgle? I've read 40k stories and I don't remember it being like that, but the lore is just whatever lol.

What about on the tabletop? Surely that's the meaningful lore reference. How many points is a Chaos Marine? How many points is a Beast of Nurgle or Chaos Spawn? They definitely cost more, you can have a squad of Chaos Marines for the price of 1 Beast of Nurgle.

I've actually read 40k books (something people into 40k who talk a lot about the lore don't seem to do, they seem to just have notions and listen to some YouTube videos) and Imperial Guard soldiers unsupported trounce Chaos Marines and Demons at times, like what's that one story where a load of Imperial Guard infantry outnumbered by Chaos Marines and Demons go into a portal and they don't come back but they win the battle and close it.

At the end of the day Titus can't even block properly. A Darktide character is a true super warrior who can block or dodge apparently anything.

[Garatgh Deloi]

引用自 PewPew：

IDK man those weak ass alien hordes can kill you in 6 hits assuming you have 3 armor plates on the 2nd highest difficulty.

EDIT: doesnt take a genius to figure out their armor is literal paper.

Genestealers (a mid form of Tyranid) are well known for being able to slash through terminator armor (Way heavier armor then you are using in the game) like paper.

And followers of Tzeentch cheat by using magical energies.

Basically, its all relative, you may be using some of the most advanced armor in the setting, but still plenty of enemies that can deal with it.

[donder172]

引用自 Portico：

Darktide crew has a far higher kill count despite their short lifespans. And they go up against far greater threats than Titus and his squad.

Titus fought and beaten a Chaos Lord turned Daemon Prince. There is no way the Darktide Crew is going to one-up that one.

[WolfishMeat7]

引用自 donder172：

引用自 Doomvora：

Tell us you know nothing about 40k without telling us you know nothing about 40k.

The only threat I can see amongst the Darktide Crew is the Ogryn, but he alone is not enough.

yeah, like full planet of Ogryns - then maybe

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

引用自 donder172：

Titus fought and beaten a Chaos Lord turned Daemon Prince. There is no way the Darktide Crew is going to one-up that one.

Rejects could swim in the cauldron of Nurgle as long as the Veteran uses Voice of Command to keep the Toughness bar at blessed levels so it's not a problem with some Batman levels of preparation time.