how are there STILL cadians?

[[CULT] Siren]

like these dudes are jsut getting SLAMMED non stop. they gotta be taken people from other worlds.

i feel like the all should be dead by this point in the story

[Maybe John Helldiver]

CC Siren a écrit :

like these dudes are jsut getting SLAMMED non stop. they gotta be taken people from other worlds.

i feel like the all should be dead by this point in the story

Its actually going to be hilarious when 10+ years from now Cadians are still somehow showing up en masse to defend worlds and the brain dead 40K authors are going to swing their magic plot wand and explain it away in half a page.

Sorry i sound jaded but yeah 40K authors are wildly inconsistent and its starting to piss me off.

[LordShoe]

i read "canadians" and was very confused

[Alucard]

Um, because:

1. Cadians are NOT only about being from CADIA. It's about cadian military fighting style, training and tactics. They also produce elite Astra Militarum soldiers, called "C". Which are equal to Tempestus Scions (basically meaning "best of the best non-agumented human can be").

2. They were producing "Cadian-style" soldiers for thousands of years. I can bet there were more Cadians stationing around Imperium on different military outposts than on Cadia. Billions of them (which in 40k context it not a lot). We are talking thousands of years here.

3. After Cadia has fallen, Cadians can still train soldier that will fight like Cadians. They will still call themselves Cadians becasue they identity and military "culture" (Cadian tactics/Kasrkins etc.) and traditions are more than just a planet. In 2 thousand years there will still be Cadians, trained by previous generation of Cadians, calling themselves Cadians and shouting "Cadia stands" becasue that's what that shout means - that Cadia stands becasue Cadian culture and Cadian soldiers still stands. As before the Cadia resistance was symbol for millenias - the Fall of Cadia will become symbol for millenias instead.

That's about it.

[Jailwood]

CC Siren a écrit :

space marine 3 should feature krieg

That would be Golden, would be funny if a side convo you can hear walking around is them talking abut a Second Charge

[Maybe John Helldiver]

Alucard a écrit :

Um, because:

1. Cadians are NOT only about being from CADIA. It's about cadian military fighting style, training and tactics. They also produce elite Astra Militarum soldiers, called "C". Which are equal to Tempestus Scions (basically meaning "best of the best non-agumented human can be").

I dont agree with this. Its a lame excuse and only exists to reinforce lazy authors/lore creators.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Gundalf a écrit :

Isnt the current story already 100+ years after the destruction of cadia? So besides some high ranking officers who could get rejuvination the rest of the orignal cadians would simply have died of old age.

Nope.

Creed literally left a plan because he knew Cadia could not last forever. Cadians are now like Catachans, if you export them, they're going to start changing things around them immediately.

[Alucard]

John Warhammer a écrit :

Alucard a écrit :

Um, because:

1. Cadians are NOT only about being from CADIA. It's about cadian military fighting style, training and tactics. They also produce elite Astra Militarum soldiers, called "C". Which are equal to Tempestus Scions (basically meaning "best of the best non-agumented human can be").

I dont agree with this. Its a lame excuse and only exists to reinforce lazy authors/lore creators.

Who cares? It's how it is and WH40k lore was always lazy, full of holes, contradictions etc. I mean are we really trying to take WH40k lore/numbers/technology/story SERIOUSLY? Please. I like 40k, but it's a bad fiction thats all about being cool over being smart.

Just enjoy it instead of overthinking it. It's like with Space Marines shoulder pads - we all know design is dumb and they wouldn't be able to move their arms, not even talking about fencing with melee weapons (even in game you can see they clip into body all the time cause otherwise SMs would be running with glued arms). But they look cool as hell so who cares. It's 40k.

[Funkenstein]

banging constantly

[Rinky]

Alucard a écrit :

Um, because:

1. Cadians are NOT only about being from CADIA. It's about cadian military fighting style, training and tactics. They also produce elite Astra Militarum soldiers, called "C". Which are equal to Tempestus Scions (basically meaning "best of the best non-agumented human can be").

2. They were producing "Cadian-style" soldiers for thousands of years. I can bet there were more Cadians stationing around Imperium on different military outposts than on Cadia. Billions of them (which in 40k context it not a lot). We are talking thousands of years here.

3. After Cadia has fallen, Cadians can still train soldier that will fight like Cadians. They will still call themselves Cadians becasue they identity and military "culture" (Cadian tactics/Kasrkins etc.) and traditions are more than just a planet. In 2 thousand years there will still be Cadians, trained by previous generation of Cadians, calling themselves Cadians and shouting "Cadia stands" becasue that's what that shout means - that Cadia stands becasue Cadian culture and Cadian soldiers still stands. As before the Cadia resistance was symbol for millenias - the Fall of Cadia will become symbol for millenias instead.

That's about it.

this is just copium

1. They are about being from Cadia, period. Everything else is you making stuff up on the fly

2. They were producing "Cadian-style" soldiers for thousands of years on Cadia from Cadians.

3. Cadians are Cadians, because they were born on a planet in front of Eye of Terror and learned how to fight before they could write properly. And so on and so forth. This is not going to happen anymore. Your "like Cadians" is a stretch. And it will degrade with every generation more and more.

Cadian culture is for Cadians. There is no "military culture of Cadian tactics". There are Cadian regiments consisting of Cadians and trained on Cadia. Period. Stop making up stupid bs.

[Rinky]

Alucard a écrit :

Who cares? It's how it is and WH40k lore was always lazy, full of holes, contradictions etc.

No wonder your 3 points make no sense, are full of holes etc. You've embraced the "Warhammer 40k lore culture style tactics" or whatever.

Alucard a écrit :

Just enjoy it instead of overthinking it.

Yeah, you can start doing this with stopping to overthink stupid explanations that help you to cope with Cadian soldiers disappearing in time or continuing to exist due to some braindead lazy writing with holes

[Alucard]

Lt. Martinus a écrit :

some braindead lazy writing with holes

That's basically 40k lore for you, yes.

[Velber]

whats wrong with canadians?

[Velber]

LordShoe a écrit :

i read "canadians" and was very confused

i knew it!

[Voodoo]

Well as silly as it sounds, cadian regiments had their start on cadia but they take reinforcements from whenever they can, new conscripts or volunteers are brought into same mindset so even when all the native cadians die there will still be regiment.

[Claptain Ahab]

Zeek a écrit :

Born2Dive a écrit :

GW seems to like doing that with their IPs. *cough* Fantasy

40k hadn't had a serious advance in the plot in like 20 years. I'm glad it happened.

The Old World is fantastic from both a table top and potentisl new lore perspective.

GW could rim us all and the salty neckbeards would still cry about it.

nah man kind of a sad take. If everything does to advance the plot means nothing. Then there is no point to care about the plot. Oh no look at the big sacrifice cadia made. They are real heros. LOL JK here 50 more cadia because plot armor. You wonder why GW and their lore is a laughing stock right now. Its because they have been making choices like that ever since they wanted to sell more models and introduced primaris marines. If GW would rim anyone once in awhile most people wouldnt laugh at how dumb they are. You just wanted to sound edgy and whine.