Intel Core i9-13900K is above 90 degrees with 140 Watts of power

[Anumrak]

Guys, you gotta patch this game asap, because my i9 is insanely hot with proper water cooling installed and all. My first stream with pre release was horrible.

In normal stress test I can see 90 degrees Celcius with like 250-340 Watts on CPU.

My specs:
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO BIOS ver 1503
Intel Core i9 13900K
ASUS ROG Strix LC II 360
Kingston Fury Beast Black DDR5 - 4x 16ГБ 4800МГц
GIGABYTE NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 GV-N4090GAMING OC-24GD 24ГБ GDDR6X

Idk what is the engine of this game, but its doing wrong things with cpu.

Update 09.11.2024: Fixed https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4599952112536314026

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by Rooby:

Originally posted by Anumrak:

No. My CPU is totally fine. Thanks.

You've been given a temporary fix that you can use until a patch arrives and you just dismiss it.

I appreciate that, but I choose to wait a patch.

[Niko]

Originally posted by Earth Defence Force!:

Download throttle stop and disable turbo

is disabling turbo the only thing i need to do?

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

Originally posted by Anumrak:

AIO is fine, bios power limiter is 253 W. In game cpu consumes not more than 140 W. But temps are 92. So whose fault is it? A rhetorical question.

AIo little fan inside the housing unit might not be spinning even if the software says so it gets. I had that issue a long time ago where my AIO micro fan wasn't spinning and causing hot temps and wouldn't let me boot up to windows but once I plugged it back in and made sure it was on it went back down to 40c - 70c

As I closed the game, tempreture is faling down. Not because the app was closed, but because water flow in a loop draw that heat up to a radiator and 3 fans. The motor in the pump works perfectly at 2,700 rpm.

[Netmonsterjr]

Originally posted by Anumrak:

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

AIo little fan inside the housing unit might not be spinning even if the software says so it gets. I had that issue a long time ago where my AIO micro fan wasn't spinning and causing hot temps and wouldn't let me boot up to windows but once I plugged it back in and made sure it was on it went back down to 40c - 70c

As I closed the game, tempreture is faling down. Not because the app was closed, but because water flow in a loop draw that heat up to a radiator and 3 fans. The motor in the pump works perfectly at 2,700 rpm.

What is your normal idle temp just chilling on the windows screen ?

[Squiggly1]

Originally posted by MacArthur:

Originally posted by Ozimandeus:

OK.. so I have an i9 12900k, and a NVIDIA RTX 4060. My CPU temp is 60-70d , my GPU about 75-80d .. methinks your problem isn't software related. Have you had any issues with any other application?

Its irrelevant to OPs issue, you dont have broken Intel scam CPU like OP.

The e-waste CPUs are

Intel Core i9 14900KS/13900KS

Intel Core i9 14900K(F)/13900K(F)

Intel Core i7 14700K(F)/13700K(F)

Intel Core i5 14600K(F)/13600K(F)

They're all fine if you sync all cores, set your voltages manually, and lock the frequency (don't let the thing drop frequency when idle, use max power all the time so you don't deal with transients). The problem is the VID tables. Which is still not fixed in the current UEFI. All Intel did is reduce frequency horrifically when the CPU isn't being utilized heavily (even overriding the ultimate power plan). That just prolongs the life enough to get it out of warranty before failure. The transients when moving up in frequency and maintaining frequency are still insanely high. Over 1.5V - 1.6V at times, which is what kills the CPU. This is mainly to get the few second of 6GHz on one or two alternating cores for 'benchmark' bragging in single core.

I've locked all my P-cores to 5.7GHz (default frequency of the CPU's P-cores by default, 14900K - set yours as appropriate for your CPU), left my power limits fairly high since I don't want current throttling, set enforce all limits in BIOS/UEFI, and set a negative Vcore offset of 0.08 (I'd start at 0.05 and FAFO till you find what works best/stable by stress testing).

Temps I see on my CPU are generally 58-62C with brief spikes to 80C when the CPU has to stream assets and is being heavily utilized. But generally, around 60C in-game.

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by MacArthur:

go learn how to Undervolt and downclock. you fell for Intel Scam and you either have to make it slower or go buy actually good CPU like 7800X3D

Thank you, but my blue cpu is totally fine. As I said this is a only game on my PC that behave like this. Reread please my previous answers.

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

Originally posted by Anumrak:

As I closed the game, tempreture is faling down. Not because the app was closed, but because water flow in a loop draw that heat up to a radiator and 3 fans. The motor in the pump works perfectly at 2,700 rpm.

What is your normal idle temp just chilling on the windows screen ?

27-31 C.

[Netmonsterjr]

Originally posted by Anumrak:

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

What is your normal idle temp just chilling on the windows screen ?

27-31 C.

Thats pretty good but here is a key note I found while searching for the normal temps while gaming ......
In this case you can check that the Tjunction of your model is 100°C, so any value under that is considered within Intel specifications. Being at maximum temperature while running a workload isn't necessarily cause for concern.

While it shouldn't be normally that high in terms of other cpu I read the manual on the 13 and 14th gen just now 100 is ok and well in the operational range for those cpu without it causing damage

[Rooby]

Originally posted by Niko:

Originally posted by Earth Defence Force!:

Download throttle stop and disable turbo

is disabling turbo the only thing i need to do?

Apparently changing Windows power to Balanced is also helping people with high temps

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Niko:

Originally posted by Earth Defence Force!:

Download throttle stop and disable turbo

is disabling turbo the only thing i need to do?

You don't need to disable turbo, that will dramatically lower your framerate.

Here is how to cap your maximum boost clock instead, through Windows power plan advanced settings.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/vphxz0/guide_how_to_properly_limit_cpu_boost_clock_to/

You can find the perfect compromise between heat and framerate by using this method. Disabling turbo will get you 50C CPU temps but a crappy framerate too. So go for by 70C temps with a better framerate instead.

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

Originally posted by Anumrak:

27-31 C.

Thats pretty good but here is a key note I found while searching for the normal temps while gaming ......
In this case you can check that the Tjunction of your model is 100°C, so any value under that is considered within Intel specifications. Being at maximum temperature while running a workload isn't necessarily cause for concern.

While it shouldn't be normally that high in terms of other cpu I read the manual on the 13 and 14th gen just now 100 is ok and well in the operational range for those cpu without it causing damage

Maybe this is a truth, but acually 140 Watts can't go that high for 92 C.
Previous broken game was HellDivers 2 that even now can up top cpu temps with "FPS limiter" settings in a game above 80 C! If you shut it off, CPU temps become 48 C with ultra settings. I using nvidia game panel to limit FPS to 60. So it is a software problem.
So this is the same software problem, just with other problem's vector.
Waiting for a patch.

[Netmonsterjr]

Originally posted by Anumrak:

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

Thats pretty good but here is a key note I found while searching for the normal temps while gaming ......
In this case you can check that the Tjunction of your model is 100°C, so any value under that is considered within Intel specifications. Being at maximum temperature while running a workload isn't necessarily cause for concern.

While it shouldn't be normally that high in terms of other cpu I read the manual on the 13 and 14th gen just now 100 is ok and well in the operational range for those cpu without it causing damage

Maybe this is a truth, but acually 140 Watts can't go that high for 92 C.
Previous broken game was HellDivers 2 that even now can up top cpu temps with "FPS limiter" settings in a game above 80 C! If you shut it off, CPU temps become 48 C with ultra settings. I using nvidia game panel to limit FPS to 60. So it is a software problem.
So this is the same softwre problem, just with other problem's vector.
Waiting for a patch.

Um dumb question but did you remove the plastic sticker off your cpu and used thermal paste ? Like I said mine doesn't go above 73-75c under heavy load so I think while the cpu can run up to 100c its not ideal but 90 doesn't mean it's bad to reach that temp sort of speak

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by Squiggly1:

Originally posted by MacArthur:

Its irrelevant to OPs issue, you dont have broken Intel scam CPU like OP.

The e-waste CPUs are

Intel Core i9 14900KS/13900KS

Intel Core i9 14900K(F)/13900K(F)

Intel Core i7 14700K(F)/13700K(F)

Intel Core i5 14600K(F)/13600K(F)

They're all fine if you sync all cores, set your voltages manually, and lock the frequency (don't let the thing drop frequency when idle, use max power all the time so you don't deal with transients). The problem is the VID tables. Which is still not fixed in the current UEFI. All Intel did is reduce frequency horrifically when the CPU isn't being utilized heavily (even overriding the ultimate power plan). That just prolongs the life enough to get it out of warranty before failure. The transients when moving up in frequency and maintaining frequency are still insanely high. Over 1.5V - 1.6V at times, which is what kills the CPU. This is mainly to get the few second of 6GHz on one or two alternating cores for 'benchmark' bragging in single core.

I've locked all my P-cores to 5.7GHz (default frequency of the CPU's P-cores by default, 14900K - set yours as appropriate for your CPU), left my power limits fairly high since I don't want current throttling, set enforce all limits in BIOS/UEFI, and set a negative Vcore offset of 0.08 (I'd start at 0.05 and FAFO till you find what works best/stable by stress testing).

Temps I see on my CPU are generally 58-62C with brief spikes to 80C when the CPU has to stream assets and is being heavily utilized. But generally, around 60C in-game.

Same result only with 253 Watts limit.
It's just fenomenal how is this game overheating the CPU's...

[Anumrak]

Originally posted by 𝕹𝖊𝖙𝖒𝖔𝖓:

Originally posted by Anumrak:

Maybe this is a truth, but acually 140 Watts can't go that high for 92 C.
Previous broken game was HellDivers 2 that even now can up top cpu temps with "FPS limiter" settings in a game above 80 C! If you shut it off, CPU temps become 48 C with ultra settings. I using nvidia game panel to limit FPS to 60. So it is a software problem.
So this is the same softwre problem, just with other problem's vector.
Waiting for a patch.

Um dumb question but did you remove the plastic sticker off your cpu and used thermal paste ? Like I said mine doesn't go above 73-75c under heavy load so I think while the cpu can run up to 100c its not ideal but 90 doesn't mean it's bad to reach that temp sort of speak

I'm professional engineer, near to 40 years old. Of course I did it :D This is not my first build.

[GrayFoxCZ]

Originally posted by MacArthur:

go learn how to Undervolt and downclock. you fell for Intel Scam and you either have to make it slower or go buy actually good CPU like 7800X3D

There are reports of 7800X3D running at high 70s - low 80s as well. Dont get me wrong, I want this game to succeed (waited for it for 13 years after all), but I doubt its a user problem atm.