Veteran difficulty solo seems crazy

[DefinitelyNotMonk]

As the title says, trying this on veteran feels nearly impossible with the bots, there is so much coming for you non stop and they simply do not carry their weight, trying to defend the antenas and after 20 attempts I'm dropping it to normal.

Can just about stay on top of it until the zoenthropes turn up, but the bots are little use in countering the ranged mobs constantly whittling me down every time I try to deal with the swarm on me in melee and the bots do nothing to help defend the objectives.

It's fun and I'm looking forward to a co-op run, but jesus I'd love to see someone clearing this on the hardest difficulty solo, heck a veteran tin would be impressive.

Crazy thing is, veteran is how it's supposed to be played?!?!

I am now awaiting the get good comments etc, I accept I am not upto the task, maybe in another 10 tries I'd nail it, but I fear that would be luck more than skill at that point lol

Congrats to anyone who pulls it off with bots!

[DefinitelyNotMonk]

Originally posted by Lord Lunar:

Originally posted by DefinitelyNotMonk:

So, I tried out normal.

What the heck is with the difficulty spike between normal and veteran, normal is crazy easy.

Then veteran you seem to be relying on luck that the bots don't stare off into space, if they work, it's challenging hard won fun, if they decide to literally stare at a wall for 5 minutes... Well.

Seems they need to patch the bots or add an extra difficulty step to me, on a plus, atleast it seems it will be fun in co-op on veteran and Angel of death.

Beat it solo on AoD in dev build, learn game mechanics

Congrats?

Is that the same as live?

The leaked build is like a year old.

As I and others have said, it's not so much about skill as the bots messing up, as doesn't really matter how good you are, if you have 20 termigaunts on you while being shot by 3 warriors with no support, you are likely going down.
When the bots work it's fine.

[Chegnarok]

Yep, I completed that chapter in veteran but then there's aboss fight and bots simply do not carry their weigh. Besides combat is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, they want yolu to have "souls like duels" with warrios, where every hit stuns you, but they also want you to have "warriors like" horde clearing

[Shadowkitty]

I was having a pretty good time on Angel of Death until I got to the section where you're forced to use the Pyreblaster...

The sequence just doesn't feel good solo, leaving you dependent on AI squadmates when actual Xeno threats are spawning in, and you've got your hands tied flamethrowing Rippers. Took me probably a dozen tries to power through and it wasn't exactly fun.

It definitely seems like having Player squadmates is a big advantage, particularly because when solo most of the enemies will aimbot straight for you and largely ignore the AI.

[AgentJG (Ger)]

Its to hard, Im stuck with the nuclear generator, my bots dosent help me. I feeli like I playing Dark Souls...

[Limz]

Originally posted by Hadgart:

I did find till the relays, the relays mission is crazy, you either destroy the relays (as the bot dont shoot the gargoiles), or you defend yourself, doesnt help either that the weapons there suck. Only the carbine is good and i didnt have it.

Grenade launcher attachment. Fire 3 grenades, re-load ammo and never fire at it manually

[Shao]

Originally posted by Yromise:

Just wait the moment you'll have to defend that reactor with the two phase with those flying ♥♥♥♥ thing in the reactor upon the city , i had to reduce the difficulty at that mment , i litteraly during my vet attemp to use some tricky ♥♥♥♥ like dropping barrel to had a chance but definitely , those flying tyranid who buff the other one are just way to much overpowered while you play with bots since you cant ask them to focus them properly

I had to reduce from veteran to normal in that exact part too, those things just eat bullets like there is no tomorrow, the bots never use they skills properly and make thing just to dificult, im really thinking veteran and angel of death are mean to be multiplayer dificulty at this point or something, bcs otherwise is painfully hard just for the bots. Normal mode just become to easy but i think i wilt dealt with that until i do a second round or something.

[Cheyenesku]

Originally posted by DefinitelyNotMonk:

As the title says, trying this on veteran feels nearly impossible with the bots, there is so much coming for you non stop and they simply do not carry their weight, trying to defend the antenas and after 20 attempts I'm dropping it to normal.

Can just about stay on top of it until the zoenthropes turn up, but the bots are little use in countering the ranged mobs constantly whittling me down every time I try to deal with the swarm on me in melee and the bots do nothing to help defend the objectives.

It's fun and I'm looking forward to a co-op run, but jesus I'd love to see someone clearing this on the hardest difficulty solo, heck a veteran tin would be impressive.

Crazy thing is, veteran is how it's supposed to be played?!?!

I am now awaiting the get good comments etc, I accept I am not upto the task, maybe in another 10 tries I'd nail it, but I fear that would be luck more than skill at that point lol

Congrats to anyone who pulls it off with bots!

Its definitly a skill issue. I did this on third try - Just run in circles around the center and kill enemies on your way or if they block you.
Besides - teammates were attacking enemies on antennas just fine.

[Grizz_FMJ]

Beat it attempt #3 on veteran. Melta Gun is key. Had 75% reactor left at end. Use the melta

[DefinitelyNotMonk]

So, after today's patch, the bots seem a lot more responsive and useful, or is it just me?

[GhostAssassin989]

Took me about 10 tries on Angel of Death to beat the relay defense mission. I knew after the first try it was gonna be one of THOSE missions, since I defended them all but the flying bombers remained to ruin my day (5/10 times). The winning strat was to hide in the entrance nook after defending the relays, then shoot at the flyers through holes for easy cover. 300 head shots later, and they died! The mobs almost killed me twice, tho.

Missions like that need to not exist anymore. It reminded me of escort missions with AI logic being their downfall...

[Doom]

Nothing in the entire campaign took me more than 2 tries, and yes I did it solo on vet and plan to go back for an angel of death run. Using parrying, perfect dodges and certain weapons turns it into a steamroll

[Snow]

Originally posted by Doom:

Nothing in the entire campaign took me more than 2 tries, and yes I did it solo on vet and plan to go back for an angel of death run. Using parrying, perfect dodges and certain weapons turns it into a steamroll

I am doing the campaign solo on vet as well, but saying "steamroll" is a bit taking it too far I'd say, though some weapons makes different areas easier or harder.

Originally posted by DefinitelyNotMonk:

As the title says, trying this on veteran feels nearly impossible with the bots, there is so much coming for you non stop and they simply do not carry their weight, trying to defend the antenas and after 20 attempts I'm dropping it to normal.

Can just about stay on top of it until the zoenthropes turn up, but the bots are little use in countering the ranged mobs constantly whittling me down every time I try to deal with the swarm on me in melee and the bots do nothing to help defend the objectives.

It's fun and I'm looking forward to a co-op run, but jesus I'd love to see someone clearing this on the hardest difficulty solo, heck a veteran tin would be impressive.

Crazy thing is, veteran is how it's supposed to be played?!?!

I am now awaiting the get good comments etc, I accept I am not upto the task, maybe in another 10 tries I'd nail it, but I fear that would be luck more than skill at that point lol

Congrats to anyone who pulls it off with bots!

Yeah it's intense, specially me not having played SM1, I too decided to go Veteran due to it was suppose to be played on that. I agree the antenna part is hard, especially going in blind, however after a few tries it becomes a little easier - knowing which weapons are availible and where the meds and ammo refill takes some pressure off and as others have stated in the thread - Grenade launcher rifle = 1 antenna cleared / ammo refill, and yes AI is bad on everything except being a meat-shield and res-stations. Zoenthropes are the BANE of my playthrough, I'd take a Carnifex any day of the week now.

Good luck and don't be disheartened - The Emperor protects!

[RedGuy Johnson]

No one should be saying 'get good' lmao game def needs a bit balancing but I think most of tyranids are fine other than Zoanthropes. I think they want it to be a bit brutal bit it's way too much in some spots.

Terminators missile barrages are just annoying and ranged attacks on some enemies are a bit too high damage/ leads to literal stunlock on some bosses. Zoanthropes have too much hp and cc attacks and way too much of chaos fights come down to spamming dodge or hiding behind a rock.
Honestly just removing the ability to get stun-locked on players would quite nice lol but idk if they'll do all that

SM 1 prepared me, but fr dealing with some of these ranged units when you have a standard bolter or anything besides stalker/sniper is just not a good time right now lol.

[Vinnolo]

focus on destroying the flyers attached to the antenas, enemies are finite and they come in waves related to the time spend defending, so rush to the antenas to clear and just sprint all over the place, once all antenas are free you can just slowly kill the enemies around the arena, dont bother helping the bots, if one gets downed the other will revive

[Wutever]

The PvE part of game, including the campaign, has been designed purely for co-op, and it shows really hard. The bots are completely braindead, and I'm pretty sure you can't even give them orders via pings.

Garbage like the Ripper mission isn't hard, it's just infuriating because you need to do everything - use the Pyre, do the objectives, and kill the Warriors and Zoethropes etc. It's very obvious that the level were designed for 3 people with functioning brains, not 1 player and 2 bots that are only good for revives. So, yeah, for solo play the campaign is very much ass.