Combat is not fun.

[NNoitora]

Combat is really bad. You cant menage hords. Distant enemies will hit you with 100% accuracy from ridiculous distance. Its immposible to fight in mele and avoid all "bullets"
Close combat is really not good, you cant proper fight and avoid damage.
I have 1500h in Vermintide and i know where is my skill issue and where mechanic is bad.
Combat is not fun :(

[Sharindel]

Originally posted by Kazoom:

Originally posted by The Dess 2023 GOTY Edition:

Space Marine 1 has a better melee combat system than this game. Devs need to review this and fast. SM2 weapons are weak, armour is weaker and the melee is chaotic with no sense. If you even try to swing your weapon a third time you are either interrupted and take tons of damage from the swarm around you and from ranged shooters. I don't think the devs really tested this game outside the first difficulties.

Melee combat felt great in the first game. You'd charge in and crush fools, using combos to heal up and crush some more fools.
In the 2nd game you rush in just to get your vision spammed by markers indicating attacks you have to dodge or parry, getting interupted by attacks you couldn't see. Such systems can work if they have a flow to them. (See the Batman games, insane combat fun) Here they just feel clunky.

You are 100% correct. This game don't give you the tools to stay alive.
I go back to darksiders one the "i am a spacemarine but i don't have the licence for it" game. There you have all the combos and glory kills to get hp back and yes you stand in masses of enemies. You slay small enemies to have the resources for the big ones and that was an endless ciricle.

In space marines to much is happening and you are way to squishy for an enemy. In the tabl top game, space marines have mostly for anything a saving throw, they are very hard to kill. In the lore they have massive regenrative abilies, that they heal mostly instandly from minor woundings and even regenerate organs in minutes. Only very heavy damage could kill them. But in this game it feels like your armor is out of paper and you hp kits are sacred artifacts.

I would even say, you feel even more squishy as in helldivers 2 and there you play cannon fodder...

[cc deville]

I do wish that the Bolter shot would interrupt the aim of the tyranid sniper and chaos marine (and vice versa). No way in hell you get hit by a rocket propelled explosive round and it doesn't affect your aim.

[Wigsplitta]

i dont know, i think its perfect as it is.

[M4LX]

+1 Totally agree. Played 46 mins, hated most of it.

Timing and flow of melee is just clunky and disjointed. Want a comparison of super smooth melee try Ghost of Tsushima. Very clean, amazing animations, feels like a great melee experience, unlike this clunky pos.

Seriously not fun. Refunded

[Alfred J. Kwak]

played 7 hours, had two good moments, rest is painfully avoiding everything cause i'm made out of paper

they never get space marines right, never

[Pingl000]

Originally posted by The Techpriest:

Melee just doesn't feel right. Too slow, too unresponsive. Feels like it does very little damage.

Clunky is how I would put it. You get locked up in multiple enemies attacks too often with no way to respond because the animations have you stumbling from one attack into another. If you miss an attack so often you cant recover as another warrior come in... or even the same one. One hit on you turns into 3, then an unblockable attack you can do nothing about because you're still stuck in a stumble animation, oops now you're dead.

[Fight For Lewd Your mom]

Originally posted by Alfred J. Kwak:

played 7 hours, had two good moments, rest is painfully avoiding everything cause i'm made out of paper

they never get space marines right, never

you never get space marine right.

[VelxraTV]

Video sums up the glaring combat faults

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2umcBxfhB6Y

[Rook]

After playing an hour I kinda want to reinstall Space Marine 1 instead :(

Visuals are amazing, but the combat reminds me of quick action events. Big step back IMO.

[KOOLCOO]

Single player campaign can get rough sometimes, but you just have to learn the proper way the game is suposed to be played ( though teammates AI is really stupid sometimes ). And you can even stay back and play ranged most of the time if you have troubles.

In co-op you are supposed well... COOPERATE ( work together) with your team mates, if you are atleast somehow competent you should have no problems at the low dificulties...

PvP is entirely different beast XD
I alredy have the Thunder Hammer air drop PTSD XD

[MANKIND]

Originally posted by Obtainable Spatula:

skill issue

I bet you play on easy though lmao

[Moon Rabbit]

Originally posted by Obtainable Spatula:

skill issue

Your comment is an intelligence issue.

[fuji699]

Originally posted by PsychaChi:

This dude is backed by the devs in his words so don't expect any balance changes for the casual playerbase.

i hate when developers do this. every time they only listen to the absolute best players the game stays bad and the players leave. unless the developers of the game show themselves beating ruthless difficulty with zero damage then I will continue to explain all the current issues with combat in the game

[eDo]

you guys need to learn tapping dodge + melee + gunshot when getting surrounded just as an example

the tools, firepower and flow are there

just need them figure out and learn

im blasting with randoms ruthless operations all 6 of them no problems
even getting hyped when you get a Extremis spawn in a great wave and handling the situation

get your melee weapons rdy for Tyranids, Extremis, Majoris and another one with for Chaos
also your ranged weapons

i have played vermintide 1+2 and darktide

but Space Marine 2 kicks them all

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by Velxra:

Video sums up the glaring combat faults

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2umcBxfhB6Y

He sums up the issues really well.

Basically, make armor stronger or easier to regen, and give us more sustain in combat, and we're good to go.

Even just making contested health last 3-5 seconds instead of 2 would go a long way.