Legions, not chapters.

[Max and Omnis]

Blood Angels is a legion, not a chapter. There are 20 legions in total, and each legion is lead by a primarch. For example, the primarch of the Blood Angels legion is Sanguinius. A chapter is a subdivision of a legion. For example, Angels of Light is a chapter of Blood Angels (https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angels_of_Light).

It seemed like some clarification is needed on this.

[Piderman]

The Imperium doesnt have legions any more, Rawbutt Girlyman came up with that chapter thing for a reason.

[Shield]

Originally posted by illusion of control:

Blood Angels is a legion, not a chapter. There are 20 legions in total, and each legion is lead by a primarch. For example, the primarch of the Blood Angels legion is Sanguinius. A chapter is a subdivision of a legion. For example, Angels of Light is a chapter of Blood Angels (https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angels_of_Light).

It seemed like some clarification is needed on this.

30k posting

[BingusDingus]

Uh sir, this is 40k.

[Turbo Thorsten]

Someone get this guy a timemachine, this isn't the Horus Heresy anymore.

C'mon, it's like a huge part of the storyline that the Legions got broken up into Chapters. Of those only one Chapter kept the name of teh Legion.
The Blood Angels are the primogenitor chapter and Sanguinius is the Primarch of all Chapters of his geneseed

[Max and Omnis]

I admit, I only read HH books... Never read a 40k book.

I stand corrected.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Piderman:

The Imperium doesnt have legions any more, Rawbutt Girlyman came up with that chapter thing for a reason.

Gorillaman sort of reinstated the Legions (or Legion formations) for a short while after his resurrection known as the Unnumbered Sons or Greyshields during the Indomitus Crusade.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by illusion of control:

Blood Angels is a legion, not a chapter. There are 20 legions in total, and each legion is lead by a primarch. For example, the primarch of the Blood Angels legion is Sanguinius. A chapter is a subdivision of a legion. For example, Angels of Light is a chapter of Blood Angels (https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angels_of_Light).

It seemed like some clarification is needed on this.

What are you on about? The last time the Astartes officially operated as Legions was the Horus Heresy. Since then they were broken up into Chapters and successor Chapters. The only Astartes in the current setting that operate (though unofficially) as Legions are the Dark Angels, Space Wolves, and Black Templars.

[BilliBobBillsen]

warhammer 40k not 30k and even in 30k there books about girlyman and his codex. ffs

[zastcat]

as others point out, after the horus heresy legions were split up into individual chapters due to reforms pushed by guilliman

part of this was to ensure that there couldn't be a massive split on the same scale as the horus heresy where entire legions are pulled into corruption by their brothers (something we see on a much smaller scale in cases like the badab war), part of it was a way of allaying fears and suspicions the rest of the imperium had toward space marines in the aftermath of the horus heresy where they'd just seen their supposed heroes and even the primarchs turn on them

chapters were present even before the legions were split up and that's why you still have ultramarines and blood angels and raven guard and so on, the 1st chapter of each legion retained the legion's name during the split with all other surviving chapters taking on new names and identities and spreading out

many chapters do retain loyalty to the overall group and specifically the chapter that retained their original legion names but the most that usually amounts to is working together more often (see: the defense of baal, the tyrannic war, and so on where successor chapters came to the 1st founding chapters' aid) with exceptions where either an overriding goal is secretly being followed (dark angels successors) or something prevents the creation of true successor chapters (space wolves) or they're abusing the heck out of the rules to keep above chapter strength (black templars)

in addition to this there are chapters whose gene lineage isn't known, in other words chapters whose original primarch and legion are unknown to them who don't have that "family history" to fall back on and are left working completely independently and relying on any bonds they form with other chapters through shared conflicts

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by zastcat:

as others point out, after the horus heresy legions were split up into individual chapters due to reforms pushed by guilliman

part of this was to ensure that there couldn't be a massive split on the same scale as the horus heresy where entire legions are pulled into corruption by their brothers (something we see on a much smaller scale in cases like the badab war), part of it was a way of allaying fears and suspicions the rest of the imperium had toward space marines in the aftermath of the horus heresy where they'd just seen their supposed heroes and even the primarchs turn on them

chapters were present even before the legions were split up and that's why you still have ultramarines and blood angels and raven guard and so on, the 1st chapter of each legion retained the legion's name during the split with all other surviving chapters taking on new names and identities and spreading out

many chapters do retain loyalty to the overall group and specifically the chapter that retained their original legion names but the most that usually amounts to is working together more often (see: the defense of baal, the tyrannic war, and so on where successor chapters came to the 1st founding chapters' aid) with exceptions where either an overriding goal is secretly being followed (dark angels successors) or something prevents the creation of true successor chapters (space wolves) or they're abusing the heck out of the rules to keep above chapter strength (black templars)

in addition to this there are chapters whose gene lineage isn't known, in other words chapters whose original primarch and legion are unknown to them who don't have that "family history" to fall back on and are left working completely independently and relying on any bonds they form with other chapters through shared conflicts

I mean it's more than those reasons for those Chapters, the DA and SW detested the Codex and Chapter system to begin.

[Radiir of Galos]

yes and know they started as a legion then became a chapter with the respec that girlman had done

[The Rifleman™]

Originally posted by illusion of control:

Blood Angels is a legion, not a chapter. There are 20 legions in total, and each legion is lead by a primarch. For example, the primarch of the Blood Angels legion is Sanguinius. A chapter is a subdivision of a legion. For example, Angels of Light is a chapter of Blood Angels (https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angels_of_Light).

It seemed like some clarification is needed on this.

They're chapters. Legions were pre-codex. Mainly cause of Horus and his cheeky bunch. Go read the horus heresy.

[Radiir of Galos]

Originally posted by The Rifleman™:

Originally posted by illusion of control:

Blood Angels is a legion, not a chapter. There are 20 legions in total, and each legion is lead by a primarch. For example, the primarch of the Blood Angels legion is Sanguinius. A chapter is a subdivision of a legion. For example, Angels of Light is a chapter of Blood Angels (https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angels_of_Light).

It seemed like some clarification is needed on this.

They're chapters. Legions were pre-codex. Mainly cause of Horus and his cheeky bunch. Go read the horus heresy.

YEAH YOUR RIOGHT BUT they were SUBDIVDED By girlman thats why we have the flesh tearers and blood drinker ect. they are both they started as one but are the size and are a chapter now.

[MaxKool007]

Originally posted by illusion of control:

Blood Angels is a legion, not a chapter. There are 20 legions in total, and each legion is lead by a primarch. For example, the primarch of the Blood Angels legion is Sanguinius. A chapter is a subdivision of a legion. For example, Angels of Light is a chapter of Blood Angels (https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angels_of_Light).

It seemed like some clarification is needed on this.

LOL man.... been playin 30+ years and this is total nonsense untill GW needed some more 30k money and caved. There are no legions in current 40k... Some chapters are larger, Some break codex some dont. With all the retcons over the years its hard to keep track. But what you posted is nonsense.

[scosche]

There are chapters, there are legions.

The Black Legion, Death Guard, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Night Lords, etc. are Legions.

The Blood Angels, Ultramarines, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, etc. are Chapters.

The Loyalist legions were forced to split into Chapters of 1000 Marines each. The Traitor Legions just kept on rolling.