This game woke or not ?

[CheersMate]

Looking for a game to buy after finishing wukong and this seems nice but ıll only buy it if it hasnt gone woke

[HexxerCS]

Автор сообщения: The One True Git

Автор сообщения: HexxerCS

Look, the issue is not with having ethnically diverse characters or women in the game. ITS THE CONTEXT especially in 40k. Lorewise Space Marines are pretty confounded by sex or romance, like they dont even register it (i.e. the time a Space Marine apothecary had to deliver a Guardswomans baby on the battlefield and just kinda yeeted it to another guardsmen because he was baffled by the experience). There are already 2 completely female factions in the Imperium and trying to force females into the MALE only Space Marines or make them gay/trans whatever is completely lore breaking and stupid beyond belief. I mean go off with making your own legion to represent that but canonically it makes zero sense. Same if you wanted to make your tabletop guards all have pride colors or something. Guradsmen and any Imperial fight for their world and the Emperor not their sexuality.

Correction: They will fight for whatever sexuality if Slaaneshy cultists.

You're telling me Rogal Dorn can be exceptionally autistic about the color yellow and a homebrew faction can't happen to like rainbow colors? /s

Not at all! Im just saying that Marine chapters proclivity towards rainbows wouldn't be based off sexuality.

[Moonlight Knight]

Автор сообщения: HexxerCS

Автор сообщения: Cabbage

Remember kids, we can have cannibal space marines but not gay ones.

Dude are you saying cannibalism is = or on par with being gay? thats like not even in the same realm. Marines that have a mutation that causes stuff like that is for the GrimDark setting...them having a "mutation" that makes them gay, uhhh that...I think you do not understand what you are implying with that.

No, the point is that being a gay marine is pretty inoffensive compared to being a cannibal marine

[HexxerCS]

Автор сообщения: Moonlight Knight

Автор сообщения: HexxerCS

Dude are you saying cannibalism is = or on par with being gay? thats like not even in the same realm. Marines that have a mutation that causes stuff like that is for the GrimDark setting...them having a "mutation" that makes them gay, uhhh that...I think you do not understand what you are implying with that.

No, the point is that being a gay marine is pretty inoffensive compared to being a cannibal marine

Right but what Im saying is lorewise Space Marines basically do not have a sexuality so them being gay would be just as weird and lore breaking as if they had a straight romance story about one. Plus the "mutations" are meant to be offensive and (most of the time" a shame to be hidden so the comparison is just bad.

[Cabbage]

Автор сообщения: HexxerCS

Автор сообщения: Cabbage

Remember kids, we can have cannibal space marines but not gay ones.

Dude are you saying cannibalism is = or on par with being gay? thats like not even in the same realm. Marines that have a mutation that causes stuff like that is for the GrimDark setting...them having a "mutation" that makes them gay, uhhh that...I think you do not understand what you are implying with that.

The Mortificators come from a world of cannibals, it's not a mutation. Know your lore son.

[Crysmus]

Автор сообщения: HexxerCS

Автор сообщения: The One True Git

You're telling me Rogal Dorn can be exceptionally autistic about the color yellow and a homebrew faction can't happen to like rainbow colors? /s

Not at all! Im just saying that Marine chapters proclivity towards rainbows wouldn't be based off sexuality.

Clearly it would be kind of like zebra stripes, acting as a confusing camouflage to disorient the enemy with a wave of rainbow stripes.
This chapter is obviously a Codex Non-Compliant chapter that specializes in mobile infantry, bikes, and deploys a lot of scout marines.

In a galaxy of a million million worlds, anything works in the lore if you handwave it enough.

[HexxerCS]

Автор сообщения: Cabbage

Автор сообщения: HexxerCS

Dude are you saying cannibalism is = or on par with being gay? thats like not even in the same realm. Marines that have a mutation that causes stuff like that is for the GrimDark setting...them having a "mutation" that makes them gay, uhhh that...I think you do not understand what you are implying with that.

The Mortificators come from a world of cannibals, it's not a mutation. Know your lore son.

Easy there. Again coming from a world of cannibalism has nothing to do with their sexuality (again something space Marines generally have no concept of). Even if said Marines come from like a planet that 90% gay or something once they become Space Marines then that would not matter because any sexuality gets stripped away.

Also Im not an absolute expert on the lore and can forget somethings, but I love this IP and what its been. I just have no idea why its so important to have "representation of sexuality" in what is an asexual faction, also a faction that none of us can really be represented with in the first place you know with them being basically demi-human angels of death.

[DeosPraetorian.tv]

Can't tell if this is bait or an idiot

[Yjojimboo]

Автор сообщения: MRTurnips

Автор сообщения: Verios44

DEI Detected mentions the tabletop version only due to the female custodes thing.

Its not mentioned SPECIFICLLY about SM2.

You are correct and incorrect at the same time. As of now there is no evidence that I have seen SM2 itself was worked on by SBI or any similar firm.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

You are forced to follow the origin of the IP branch, which is confirmed "woke" and "DEI".

This shifts the burden of proof to the other side, SM2 is "woke" and "DEI" until proven otherwise (and this will never happen).

That's not how that works my guy. The base IP and licensing of it are not the same things, and you cannot draw such correlations without some collaborative absence. Besides, in situations of shifting burdens of proof, the onus is always on the party trying to prove the existence of something, not the party trying to prove absence. Trying to shoehorn in a collateral attack to make someone try and prove the non-existence of an absent item is the height of failure in debate.

[MRTurnips]

Автор сообщения: Yjojimboo

Автор сообщения: MRTurnips

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

You are forced to follow the origin of the IP branch, which is confirmed "woke" and "DEI".

This shifts the burden of proof to the other side, SM2 is "woke" and "DEI" until proven otherwise (and this will never happen).

That's not how that works my guy. The base IP and licensing of it are not the same things, and you cannot draw such correlations without some collaborative absence. Besides, in situations of shifting burdens of proof, the onus is always on the party trying to prove the existence of something, not the party trying to prove absence. Trying to shoehorn in a collateral attack to make someone try and prove the non-existence of an absent item is the height of failure in debate.

So let's check the terms and conditions on which Games Workshop licenses its IPs.

[Dr_Keenbean]

Автор сообщения: Gollum

i dont eve know what woke means

Neither do they.

[Rave Pathfinder.]

Your shooting Zues cup size bullets into anyone who disagrees with you.

[Durrrrwin]

Every heterosexual, proud, patriot male that buys this game buys a weapon against himself.

That's how woke this game is, fellow patriots. Don't buy or play the game at all. Over and out.

[Flesh Bucket]

its very woke

[Cupcakeunleashed]

Автор сообщения: CheersMate

Looking for a game to buy after finishing wukong and this seems nice but ıll only buy it if it hasnt gone woke

Go outside

[RerenderO'Dimm]

is woke, if you identified as hir, you'll do 10% more damage so they force you to like it