There is ZERO wokeness in Spacemarine II

[I'm the walrus]

I see lots of people trying to spoil the game and make the community think there is wokeness scattered all over the place in SM2, it’s false. Absolutely false. I know because I have played through the campaign twice.

The only thing you can claim is “woke”, is the fact that not every Ultramarine is a blonde haired, blue eyed Roman/Greek looking dude. The three main characters, Titus, Chairon, and Gadriel, are European, African, Asian. If that’s enough to turn you off from a game, I can only express sympathy. But it’s only the way they look, all the Ultramarines, talk, act, and respond like Ultramarines would. The banter between your characters is some of the best banter I’ve ever heard in a video game because of how LORE ACCURATE it is.

It is grimdark.

It is macsuline.

It is Warhammer 40k, in every way possible.

[S4V6]

We know, we just like to ♥♥♥♥ with them especially since it's been going on for months now

[ArmstrongDicksmasher]

Originally posted by I'm the walrus:

I see lots of people trying to spoil the game and make the community think there is wokeness scattered all over the place in SM2, it’s false. Absolutely false. I know because I have played through the campaign twice.

The only thing you can claim is “woke”, is the fact that not every Ultramarine is a blonde haired, blue eyed Roman/Greek looking dude. The three main characters, Titus, Chairon, and Gadriel, are European, African, Asian. If that’s enough to turn you off from a game, I can only express sympathy. But it’s only the way they look, all the Ultramarines, talk, act, and respond like Ultramarines would. The banter between your characters is some of the best banter I’ve ever heard in a video game because of how LORE ACCURATE it is.

It is grimdark.

It is macsuline.

It is Warhammer 40k, in every way possible.

i hope to believe you, but i will continue to hold off, perhaps until ultrawide support is actually implemented, just in case, GW lost my unconditional support a couple of years back, even before the femstodes debacle, and i do not throw money at my hobbies willy-nilly.

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by I'm the walrus:

The only thing you can claim is “woke”, is the fact that not every Ultramarine is a blonde haired, blue eyed Roman/Greek looking dude.

Uhhh, my family is Italian and Greek by heritage (mostly Italian, my grandfather is Greek), and I think I have maybe 2 relatives who are naturally blond, and only one (that I can think of) who has blue eyes.

Most of us are fairly olive skinned with brown hair and brown eyes.

[randir14]

The woke claims came from some 4chan thread that was full of outright lies. Like saying Titus gets bossed around by women and that the Space Marines get scared and cry.

[😒]

When anything becomes popular, the woke descend like vultures to rip it apart. the pattern repeats with every game, movie, whatever. If it becomes popular, suddenly it isn't diverse, and needs to be completely changed. Virus.

[ArmstrongDicksmasher]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by I'm the walrus:

The only thing you can claim is “woke”, is the fact that not every Ultramarine is a blonde haired, blue eyed Roman/Greek looking dude.

Uhhh, my family is Italian and Greek by heritage (mostly Italian, my grandfather is Greek), and I think I have maybe 2 relatives who are naturally blond, and only one (that I can think of) who has blue eyes.

Most of us are fairly olive skinned with brown hair and brown eyes.

the OPs inherent delulu racism-by-accident remarks aside, i think he was referring to the patrician features of the classic high-caste italian/greeks you see in statues and the like, the most handsome Germanic ethnic traits essentially, and considering the germanic traits inherent in northern italians+high caste greeks, its not a totally incorrect relevance, Girlyman is a blatant roman empire fanboy and his entire chapters aesthetic reflects that.

[S4V6]

Originally posted by ArmstrongDicksmasher:

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Uhhh, my family is Italian and Greek by heritage (mostly Italian, my grandfather is Greek), and I think I have maybe 2 relatives who are naturally blond, and only one (that I can think of) who has blue eyes.

Most of us are fairly olive skinned with brown hair and brown eyes.

the OPs inherent delulu racism-by-accident remarks aside, i think he was referring to the patrician features of the classic high-caste italian/greeks you see in statues and the like, the most handsome Germanic ethnic traits essentially, and considering the germanic traits inherent in northern italians+high caste greeks, its not a totally incorrect relevance, Girlyman is a blatant roman empire fanboy and his entire chapters aesthetic reflects that.

I am pretty much meant what he said about blue eyed blond haired looking dudes but not in the way you think he did.

[4MIRVS]

Unfortunately that is not true.

It's just the Overton Window has been shifted so far that you now accept black and Korean space marines in the flagship legion of a Euro-centric science fiction setting that's based exclusively Caesar, Rome and on the Roman Legion.

That's why you accept the name Chairon - An Old English name from Ancient Anglo-Saxon ancestry dating back to 864AD that held a seat in one of the seven Saxon kingdoms of England, and whose ancestors held high-ranking positions as bishop and Archdeacon in the church and whose families helped found Boston, Virginia, and New Hampshire in the USA and whose family crest is a green vine, green lion and white Unicorn, as a name for Diversity Hire Brother Jamal who beats on the heretics like they're his baby mamas.

And that's why you accept the name Hebrew name Gadriel which translates into "God is my Fortune" and eventually took on the spelling "Gabriel" who is the Hebrew/Christian angel who tells Mary she will bear the son of God, Jesus Christ and is one of the five angels who keeps watch over Paradise for Diversity Hire Brother Ming Ting Bing Bong.

[Shield]

Originally posted by 4MIRVS:

Unfortunately that is not true.

It's just the Overton Window has been shifted so far that you now accept black and Korean space marines in the flagship legion of a Euro-centric science fiction setting that's based exclusively Caesar, Rome and on the Roman Legion.

That's why you accept the name Chairon - An Old English name from Ancient Anglo-Saxon ancestry dating back to 864AD that held a seat in one of the seven Saxon kingdoms of England, and whose ancestors held high-ranking positions as bishop and Archdeacon in the church and whose families helped found Boston, Virginia, and New Hampshire in the USA and whose family crest is a green vine, green lion and white Unicorn, as a name for Diversity Hire Brother Jamal who beats on the heretics like they're his baby mamas.

And that's why you accept the name Hebrew name Gadriel which translates into "God is my Fortune" and eventually took on the spelling "Gabriel" who is the Hebrew/Christian angel who tells Mary she will bear the son of God, Jesus Christ and is one of the five angels who keeps watch over Paradise for Diversity Hire Brother Ming Ting Bing Bong.

bro took AP racism

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by I'm the walrus:

There is ZERO wokeness in Spacemarine II
I see lots of people trying to spoil the game and make the community think there is wokeness scattered all over the place in SM2, it’s false. Absolutely false. I know because I have played through the campaign twice.

The only thing you can claim is “woke”, is the fact that not every Ultramarine is a blonde haired, blue eyed Roman/Greek looking dude. The three main characters, Titus, Chairon, and Gadriel, are European, African, Asian. If that’s enough to turn you off from a game, I can only express sympathy. But it’s only the way they look, all the Ultramarines, talk, act, and respond like Ultramarines would. The banter between your characters is some of the best banter I’ve ever heard in a video game because of how LORE ACCURATE it is.

It is grimdark.

It is macsuline.

It is Warhammer 40k, in every way possible.

Its Warhammer 40,000. Period.
Anything more is a waste of time.

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by 4MIRVS:

Unfortunately that is not true.

It's just the Overton Window has been shifted so far that you now accept black and Korean space marines in the flagship legion of a Euro-centric science fiction setting that's based exclusively Caesar, Rome and on the Roman Legion.

That's why you accept the name Chairon - An Old English name from Ancient Anglo-Saxon ancestry dating back to 864AD that held a seat in one of the seven Saxon kingdoms of England, and whose ancestors held high-ranking positions as bishop and Archdeacon in the church and whose families helped found Boston, Virginia, and New Hampshire in the USA and whose family crest is a green vine, green lion and white Unicorn, as a name for Diversity Hire Brother Jamal who beats on the heretics like they're his baby mamas.

And that's why you accept the name Hebrew name Gadriel which translates into "God is my Fortune" and eventually took on the spelling "Gabriel" who is the Hebrew/Christian angel who tells Mary she will bear the son of God, Jesus Christ and is one of the five angels who keeps watch over Paradise for Diversity Hire Brother Ming Ting Bing Bong.

I’ll have what he’s having

[Oku]

Originally posted by 4MIRVS:

Unfortunately that is not true.

It's just the Overton Window has been shifted so far that you now accept black and Korean space marines in the flagship legion of a Euro-centric science fiction setting that's based exclusively Caesar, Rome and on the Roman Legion.

That's why you accept the name Chairon - An Old English name from Ancient Anglo-Saxon ancestry dating back to 864AD that held a seat in one of the seven Saxon kingdoms of England, and whose ancestors held high-ranking positions as bishop and Archdeacon in the church and whose families helped found Boston, Virginia, and New Hampshire in the USA and whose family crest is a green vine, green lion and white Unicorn, as a name for Diversity Hire Brother Jamal who beats on the heretics like they're his baby mamas.

And that's why you accept the name Hebrew name Gadriel which translates into "God is my Fortune" and eventually took on the spelling "Gabriel" who is the Hebrew/Christian angel who tells Mary she will bear the son of God, Jesus Christ and is one of the five angels who keeps watch over Paradise for Diversity Hire Brother Ming Ting Bing Bong.

Sir this is a Denny's

[H4NS]

Yeah, black and asian Ultramarines lmao. "ZERO wokeness".

[Too Based]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by I'm the walrus:

The only thing you can claim is “woke”, is the fact that not every Ultramarine is a blonde haired, blue eyed Roman/Greek looking dude.

Uhhh, my family is Italian and Greek by heritage (mostly Italian, my grandfather is Greek), and I think I have maybe 2 relatives who are naturally blond, and only one (that I can think of) who has blue eyes.

Most of us are fairly olive skinned with brown hair and brown eyes.

brown not black

[Too Based]

Originally posted by R4P70R:

Yeah, black and asian Ultramarines lmao. "ZERO wokeness".

lmfao beat me to it