so only TWO (2) PvE maps planned?

[EvilNando]

why so few? is not that we are not paying for content in the form of season passes

[astgdzfgdsg]

This linear mission design stuff tends to take an absolute age to make, I'm really not a fan of the decision to go with it.

So I'm planning to bounce between this game and Darktide to make up for them both being slow as molasses.

[Hexagoros]

Yeah, that is not encouraging. I kind of feel like they should have gone with procedural maps after seeing there are only TWO planned from now until the end of 2025.

[zastcat]

reminder: these are campaigns, this is not hd2, people jumping over to this because they feel burned by hd2 and expecting the same thing but without the flaws they see in that are going to be disappointed because this isn't the same thing nor is it trying to be

it isn't a "repeat the same missions with random maps" game, it's a "go through the story and mess around with options and here's a pvp mode if you get bored of that" game

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by zastcat:

reminder: these are campaigns, this is not hd2, people jumping over to this because they feel burned by hd2 and expecting the same thing but without the flaws they see in that are going to be disappointed because this isn't the same thing nor is it trying to be

it isn't a "repeat the same missions with random maps" game, it's a "go through the story and mess around with options and here's a pvp mode if you get bored of that" game

Yeah but the price tag. This is not a cheap game.

6 maps, with only two planned for the next year and half seems way too low for the asking price.

[astgdzfgdsg]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Yeah, that is not encouraging. I kind of feel like they should have gone with procedural maps after seeing there are only TWO planned from now until the end of 2025.

I've been hoping for procedural of some kind for Darktide for years, but alas they keep doing the linear. It wouldnt be so bad but they won't even do quick remixes of existing maps, so we are at the mercy of Fatshark's painfully slow output.

I suspected it would be a repeat of the same with SM2, but I was holding out some hope that Saber would be able to bang them out because they are a massive company compared to fatshark. Seems to have not mattered though unfortunately. Guess this kind of content just bottlenecks itself super hard.

[zastcat]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by zastcat:

reminder: these are campaigns, this is not hd2, people jumping over to this because they feel burned by hd2 and expecting the same thing but without the flaws they see in that are going to be disappointed because this isn't the same thing nor is it trying to be

it isn't a "repeat the same missions with random maps" game, it's a "go through the story and mess around with options and here's a pvp mode if you get bored of that" game

Yeah but the price tag. This is not a cheap game.

6 maps, with only two planned for the next year and half seems way too low for 70.

single player campaign: playable with 2 other people, operations: playable with 2 other people, pvp with additional mode (theories are pointed toward dreadnought from the 1st game), planned horde mode

lets count that again, 2 pve campaigns with additional missions being added and additional enemies being added over the next year, a horde mode being added, pvp with an additional mode being added over the next year, when many full price games don't even have that much with all the actual gameplay additions being free and the only dlc being cosmetics

consider how many games released at full price don't even have that and consider that many of those live service games that come out slightly cheaper only justify it by expecting you to buy weapon pack unlocks that are "free" but locked behind a long grind meant to tempt you into being impatient and just buying instead

[Mister Magician]

Originally posted by zastcat:

reminder: these are campaigns, this is not hd2, people jumping over to this because they feel burned by hd2 and expecting the same thing but without the flaws they see in that are going to be disappointed because this isn't the same thing nor is it trying to be

it isn't a "repeat the same missions with random maps" game, it's a "go through the story and mess around with options and here's a pvp mode if you get bored of that" game

Most likely these are operations maps, which are meant to be played over and over.

there are only 6 at launch.

[zastcat]

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Originally posted by zastcat:

reminder: these are campaigns, this is not hd2, people jumping over to this because they feel burned by hd2 and expecting the same thing but without the flaws they see in that are going to be disappointed because this isn't the same thing nor is it trying to be

it isn't a "repeat the same missions with random maps" game, it's a "go through the story and mess around with options and here's a pvp mode if you get bored of that" game

Most likely these are operations maps, which are meant to be played over and over.

there are only 6 at launch.

and they aren't the entirety of the game, again, 2 other modes at launch, both the main campaign and operations are narratively driven, pvp and horde mode/exterminatus (the modes being added later) meanwhile are absolutely meant to be repeated endlessly

people are taking a full product, chopping it up into bits to hold up the single point they want and going "why am I being charged so much for this, why is it not bigger" or being upset over the season passes which are for entirely cosmetic purposes

it's why I brought up that this is not hd2, that is a game that relies on its random generation maps to hide how repetitive the actual missions are and relies on pushing people toward buying weapon packs for its longevity, this meanwhile is a game that is more than just a single mode to be endlessly repeated

it is not started on the same basis with a promise of infinite new content, it's already giving more than the original did just by promising they'll make more of anything instead of it being a surprise

[Sifer2]

Isn't it 3 maps? Which is 50% more for free. So far it has not actually been marketed as a Live service game even though they are clearly tinkering with the idea.

[Bill Gates]

dang, they way it sounds it may be better to wait until next year to purchase this game. Kind of disappointed with what i am reading.

[JP]

its a warhammer shooter done in Unreal Engine 5 with the best graphics of any warhammer game so far. i think the price is justified and that the maps will be large enough to merit a good player experience. we'll know for sure on Sept 5th.

[Angarvin]

Originally posted by Jack:

its a warhammer shooter done in Unreal Engine 5

who keeps spreading this misinformation?!
there is a single video that i was able to find that claimed sm2 is on ue5 - it has less than 200 views while being 8 months old and is clearly a poorly done reupload of even older official videos.
who told you it's ue5? why would it be on ue5?
as directly stated by the devs: it's on saber's own "swarm engine", not ue5.

Originally posted by EvilNando:

so only TWO (2) PvE maps planned?

if you're talking about the roadmap, then it's more than 2. s2 states "missionS". plural. plus another mission that is slated for s3. so at least three missions.

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

there are only 6 at launch.

https://i.gyazo.com/28f28ee7a2e1fb794d9912e5e8b9b170.png

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by Angarvin:

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

there are only 6 at launch.

https://i.gyazo.com/28f28ee7a2e1fb794d9912e5e8b9b170.png

If that's real that's definitely new because all of the preview footage I've watched has said - and shown in videos - that there are only six PvE maps to choose from.

An extra map is very much welcomed though if that's legit.

[Sovereign]

The roadmap just says new "PVE missions" (plural) and only covers the first year of post launch support. Where does it say there will only be two missions total?

[EmperorVolo]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by zastcat:

reminder: these are campaigns, this is not hd2, people jumping over to this because they feel burned by hd2 and expecting the same thing but without the flaws they see in that are going to be disappointed because this isn't the same thing nor is it trying to be

it isn't a "repeat the same missions with random maps" game, it's a "go through the story and mess around with options and here's a pvp mode if you get bored of that" game

Yeah but the price tag. This is not a cheap game.

6 maps, with only two planned for the next year and half seems way too low for the asking price.

Just be glad they didn't make a bunch of MT and DLC content when they should have been making this game. A lot of companies make tons of MT content while making a game then chop up the game to sell piece meal. This is a good sign not a bad sign.