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Instigator Bolt Carbine - Wrong class
I have been trying this weapon out and it feels like it would be amazing on the tactical class, where as the Vanguard would do better with another shotgun style weapon.
love the weapon it just does not fit with the Vanguard, up close fighting.
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Kafik Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by HereticRivga:
I have been trying this weapon out and it feels like it would be amazing on the tactical class, where as the Vanguard would do better with another shotgun style weapon.
love the weapon it just does not fit with the Vanguard, up close fighting.
Sniper from a distance with headshots, grapple in and execute. Feels great to me.
Metalsiren IXI Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:17pm 
The ranged weapon is to give some balance to a close range fighter.
[Heretic]Rivga Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Kafik:
Originally posted by HereticRivga:
I have been trying this weapon out and it feels like it would be amazing on the tactical class, where as the Vanguard would do better with another shotgun style weapon.
love the weapon it just does not fit with the Vanguard, up close fighting.
Sniper from a distance with headshots, grapple in and execute. Feels great to me.

The think is the Instigater is so good at head shots, it makes the charging in redundant. Kind of killing the concept of the class. Why grapple in when 1 more head shot will finish off the target?

With the melta gun the synergy of needing to get close and grappling in works perfectly, it feels like the old Mass Effect class which I think was called Vanguard too.
With the instigater, you just have an amazing weapons, that would be amazing in most classes - and in the hands of a the tactical class would be amazing and very punchy.

I can see how this weapon is god-tier in PvP.
Kafik Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by HereticRivga:
Originally posted by Kafik:
Sniper from a distance with headshots, grapple in and execute. Feels great to me.

The think is the Instigater is so good at head shots, it makes the charging in redundant. Kind of killing the concept of the class. Why grapple in when 1 more head shot will finish off the target?

With the melta gun the synergy of needing to get close and grappling in works perfectly, it feels like the old Mass Effect class which I think was called Vanguard too.
With the instigater, you just have an amazing weapons, that would be amazing in most classes - and in the hands of a the tactical class would be amazing and very punchy.

I can see how this weapon is god-tier in PvP.
No disputing your opinion here. For me it's just a different playstyle. I do swap the melta tho like for the end of Inferno or Engine to just blast away the minoris hordes.
[Heretic]Rivga Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by Metalsiren IXI:
The ranged weapon is to give some balance to a close range fighter.

Fair enough, I suppose that I would prefer them to lean into the concept and others want them to compensate and give balance to the concept of the class.
Teran Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:52pm 
The class has a shotgun, an smg, and a three round burst rifle. Why would you want them to give the class a second shotgun instead of the burst rifle?
Magni Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:56pm 
The Instigator is great at giving the Vanguard a tool for the things he otherwise struggles with: Taking out ranged chaff enemies quickly, and flying enemies.
Last edited by Magni; Oct 14, 2024 @ 5:36pm
[Heretic]Rivga Oct 14, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Teran:
The class has a shotgun, an smg, and a three round burst rifle. Why would you want them to give the class a second shotgun instead of the burst rifle?

To give them another option to lean into there class skill, A shotgun could have a smaller cone but more powerful. Or smaller cone but greater range.

Whilst it is great the instigated fills a weakness of the class, but it means you then play the class like the tactical class and if your are going to do this you may as well play the Tactical class, which is better at this style of game play.
Last edited by [Heretic]Rivga; Oct 14, 2024 @ 5:55pm
Dale's Dead Bug Oct 14, 2024 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by HereticRivga:
I have been trying this weapon out and it feels like it would be amazing on the tactical class, where as the Vanguard would do better with another shotgun style weapon.
love the weapon it just does not fit with the Vanguard, up close fighting.

I take the ranged damage after grapple perk, grapple in, shoot them in the face then execute. It's lots of fun.
[Heretic]Rivga Oct 15, 2024 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Dale's Dead Bug:
Originally posted by HereticRivga:
I have been trying this weapon out and it feels like it would be amazing on the tactical class, where as the Vanguard would do better with another shotgun style weapon.
love the weapon it just does not fit with the Vanguard, up close fighting.

I take the ranged damage after grapple perk, grapple in, shoot them in the face then execute. It's lots of fun.
Completely agree but then the melta is MUCH better at that job
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Date Posted: Oct 14, 2024 @ 4:01pm
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