ammo quantity makes no sense on ruthless and lethal difficilty

[Astrotam]

less ammo doesn't make it more difficult it just makes it tedious and not fun. "yUo SHoUlD aIM bEtTer And SaVe AmMO" we do lil bro... thing is, carnifexs and lictors take alot of ammo to take down , and thats considering having a bulwark on the squad. also not all maps are created equal hence not all stashes are positioned equally too. IT NEEDS A FIX PERIOD!

[wecomeone2004]

Originally posted by Astrotam:

less ammo doesn't make it more difficult it just makes it tedious and not fun. "yUo SHoUlD aIM bEtTer And SaVe AmMO" we do lil bro... thing is, carnifexs and lictors take alot of ammo to take down , and thats considering having a bulwark on the squad. also not all maps are created equal hence not all stashes are positioned equally too. IT NEEDS A FIX PERIOD!

Then go in melee and take down that carnifex and lictor.

[Chaos]

You need ammo for carnifexs and lictors?
You don't melee kill them 1v1 like a true son of ultramar?
Leandros should've reported you instead of Titus.

[Zedonova Nova]

its false difficulty, basically forcing the player into a meta to deal with the situation. Frustrating, might as well just use melee classes higher levels...dumb devs didn't think about that.

[AonGreyFox]

Originally posted by Chaos:

You need ammo for carnifexs and lictors?
You don't melee kill them 1v1 like a true son of ultramar?
Leandros should've reported you instead of Titus.

I can melee Lictor all day brother, but nope. I'm not going to melee Distraction Carnifex to death... my reflect that can clear Elden ring (with lot of resource to aid) can't dodge its stupid spin and charge constantly ; w ;

[Chaos]

Originally posted by AonGreyFox:

I can melee Lictor all day brother, but nope. I'm not going to melee Distraction Carnifex to death... my reflect that can clear Elden ring (with lot of resource to aid) can't dodge its stupid spin and charge constantly ; w ;

Most of carny attack can be parry.
That include the crazy wide hitbox spin too.

Only the jump, the charge and the super delayed charged attack can't be parry.

The charge hitbox is pretty messed up tho, so try not to retreat too far.

[Teran]

Originally posted by Astrotam:

less ammo doesn't make it more difficult it just makes it tedious and not fun. "yUo SHoUlD aIM bEtTer And SaVe AmMO" we do lil bro... thing is, carnifexs and lictors take alot of ammo to take down , and thats considering having a bulwark on the squad. also not all maps are created equal hence not all stashes are positioned equally too. IT NEEDS A FIX PERIOD!

What doesn't make sense is people who have never played on this difficulty complaining about it. Imagine comparing a carnifex to a lictor, by the way neither of which takes any ammo to kill in a pinch.

[AonGreyFox]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Originally posted by AonGreyFox:

I can melee Lictor all day brother, but nope. I'm not going to melee Distraction Carnifex to death... my reflect that can clear Elden ring (with lot of resource to aid) can't dodge its stupid spin and charge constantly ; w ;

Most of carny attack can be parry.
That include the crazy wide hitbox spin too.

Only the jump, the charged and the super delayed charged attack can't be parry.

The charged hitbox is pretty messed up tho, so try not to retreat too far.

I hate his timing as much as Margit the delay ' A '
I can parry Cani to some extend, but ahhh.... this thing just getting on my nerved and I can't overcome it. I'll try brother.

[Ziel]

To be honnest, but i have good bunch of ruthless and lethal games behind, the game is pretty generous with ammo even in higher difficulties.

It leads to no sense like players spaming their primary on small groups that do not deserv this kind of attention while the job can be done in melee.

All class can go to melee, even the heavy, to save ammo and it should be this way. In fact there is almost no reason to spend ammo but certain situation like terminus, zaot and few range ennemies. Btw all minoris die from a headshot, considering how hitbox are generous, take your time to clean.

I often play assault, never run out of ammo, if you know to manage.
Same as tactical, i just finish to lvl up heavy bot riffle, if you time well your cd and weapons you have almost no need from ammo crates.

Lethal should have less ammo in my opinion, one ammo crate per ope should be enough.

[The Cheese]

Originally posted by Astrotam:

carnifexs and lictors take alot of ammo to take down

So take them down in melee. You're in the top difficulties now, time to start acting like it.

[Eudicots]

Less ammo is just a boring way to artificially increase the difficulty of the game. If having more ammo automatically makes the game easier then the design was flawed from the start.

[Ōkami Soul .:|:;]

Originally posted by Eudicots:

Less ammo is just a boring way to artificially increase the difficulty of the game. If having more ammo automatically makes the game easier then the design was flawed from the start.

And you have even need to dump magazines in minoris and majoris if you dont have 80% headshot accuracy, even with headshots only most of them tank too many shots.

Not even to kill them, majoris speaking for the most part, but to put them in execution state, that need to be executed or additional headshots, or they gonna regen instead of just die by bleeding out.

[OldManSkills]

Originally posted by Astrotam:

less ammo doesn't make it more difficult it just makes it tedious and not fun. "yUo SHoUlD aIM bEtTer And SaVe AmMO" we do lil bro... thing is, carnifexs and lictors take alot of ammo to take down , and thats considering having a bulwark on the squad. also not all maps are created equal hence not all stashes are positioned equally too. IT NEEDS A FIX PERIOD!

your right, it feel like ♥♥♥♥ and its not even making the game harder. i beat all levels at lethal easly with randoms but its like after my 15 shots from my sniper class im running around with only my pistol and hope my team dont get ♥♥♥♥ on before the next checkpoint.

[Zp]

Dear devs, please bless these players with a primary weapon that doesn't require reloading, a melee weapon that one shots bosses, and immortal health. Listen to them, they are still not having fun, the game is too stressful. Please tune all their difficulty levels to minimal.

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Zp:

Dear devs, please bless these players with a primary weapon that doesn't require reloading, a melee weapon that one shots bosses, and immortal health. Listen to them, they are still not having fun, the game is too stressful. Please tune all their difficulty levels to minimal.

Unironicly this, I actually enjoy enemy HP in minimal the most.

Even bolter feel great there so there is no need to spam grenade that much.
Too bad the spawn rate is not enough to satisfy me at all.

So Saber, listen to this guy, do it for us lol.

[MostlyPanda]

Originally posted by Eudicots:

Less ammo is just a boring way to artificially increase the difficulty of the game. If having more ammo automatically makes the game easier then the design was flawed from the start.

it's a game, every difficulty is artificial.
I love when big boys use big words to make it sound that it makes sense.

you need to manage your ammo. if your aim sucks, you will get punished. get used to it.