Hate to say it but....

[L O]

Bolters are still pants. Its a damn bolter not a freaking spud gun.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Yeah i thought so too when reading the patch notes 5-20% cosidering how low the damge was, doesnt sound much to me aswell. But it is at least one step in the right direction. Maybe they start to paly their own game and see that it is better that way and increase it further ;-)

[Gillion]

Wrong, just played lethal with a few relic upgraded bolters and it's so incredibly good now

[dP | Grund]

Biggest thing is Bots do 30% more damage well 30% of Zero is still Zero....Just did a solo ruthless run and they still cant hurt bosses at all.

[Volknir]

just used relic heavy bolter. its better but not much still need half a mag dump in the head on majoris to red state them. not tried any others yet

[Gänsevorhaut]

the patch isnt out

[Volknir]

huh then what did i just download? well if that the case it explains a lot

[Chaos]

Oh come on, we need a longer chain of that irony sheets.

[L O]

Originally posted by Gillion:

Wrong, just played lethal with a few relic upgraded bolters and it's so incredibly good now

I will agree to some extent and I might have been a buit hasty in my remarks, but thus far the ones I've tested and all are at relic have been as bad as they were.

[cc deville]

The Bolter, the most iconic weapon in the 40k universe, the weapon of choice for the Astartes is still.....a nice, friendly tyranid tickler. A complete oevrhaul is needed.

[L O]

Originally posted by cc deville:

The Bolter, the most iconic weapon in the 40k universe, the weapon of choice for the Astartes is still.....a nice, friendly tyranid tickler. A complete oevrhaul is needed.

That was my point, they still feel meh, unloading a clip into anything to kill it, unless your getting 100% head shots isn't how I'd imagine a bolter to feel or play like.

[AonGreyFox]

I don't think weak bolter buff from 3.6 dmg to 3.78 dmg going to make a different. You can get lower time to kill, but without addition buff like accuracy, rate of fire, ammo reserve. Weak bolter is still weak bolter when you are swarming ' w 'a

Better yet, we can't have duct tape for solving problem like our Brother can do. Double Bolter, Quadruple Bolter!!!

Originally posted by dP | Grund:

Biggest thing is Bots do 30% more damage well 30% of Zero is still Zero....Just did a solo ruthless run and they still cant hurt bosses at all.

I don't know what I can be relief that it's as I expected or disappoint that dev still so high and believe that bot can do dmg to boss. I guess they actually mean Hive Tyrant or Heldrake. If that still not count I think we have High as Heldrake can fly award for dev.

[cc deville]

Thankfully, the game is still so fun.

[Brother Mobinius]

Which one tho? im planning to grind my stalker bolt to see it for myself

[L O]

Originally posted by cc deville:

Thankfully, the game is still so fun.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Brother Mobinius:

Which one tho? im planning to grind my stalker bolt to see it for myself

stalker was good before the buff so now it should really rock.

[Haron]

Originally posted by Brother Mobinius:

Which one tho? im planning to grind my stalker bolt to see it for myself

Bouth stalker and instegator was a very good options to begin with, it's automatic bolters that have herf darts instead of bolts.