It took 7% to make DEVs listen (down to Mixed?)

[YARD_STALEV]

Okay, now they heard the majority and rolled back some of the initiatives.
it cost 80% → 73% travel downwards.
Plus immense online drops (approaching to that of the Darktide).
Are you gonna correct bad reviews and make them positive ones?
I am in 2 minds.

[Menace]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Blood Raven Cyrus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menace:

the patch dropped over 2 hours ago bud

yea and people complained last patch the fencing weapon change was a nerf 5 mins into patch when it was a buff

we're well past 5 minutes into the patch.
the fencing parry changes were a change to set them aside from balanced and blocking beyond just having more parry frames, they explain that in the patch notes and the gameplay reflects it, not our fault people didn't read.
the bolt weapon buffs are not significant because the increases in damage doesn't help them meet alot of damage breakpoints that enemies have. it makes some of the highest tier enemies die in single digit less shots.
stalker bolter got the only noticable change for killing warriors in a single less headshot

[EvilJoshy]

I'm not going to change my review until they stabilize the game. Takes me 5-10 mins to get from the title screen to the battle barge only for the game to tell me disconnected from server.

[[Blood Raven] Cyrus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menace:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Blood Raven Cyrus:

yea and people complained last patch the fencing weapon change was a nerf 5 mins into patch when it was a buff

we're well past 5 minutes into the patch.
the fencing parry changes were a change to set them aside from balanced and blocking beyond just having more parry frames, they explain that in the patch notes and the gameplay reflects it, not our fault people didn't read.
the bolt weapon buffs are not significant because the increases in damage doesn't help them meet alot of damage breakpoints that enemies have. it makes some of the highest tier enemies die in single digit less shots.
stalker bolter got the only noticable change for killing warriors in a single less headshot

bolters shouldnt 1 shot nids unless its a headshot to trash mobs otherwise if bolters should chaos bolters should do the same because rubricae marines are using same bolt weapons we do

[Arcadistre]

Imagine quitting over a minor nerfs and changes. I smell ♥♥♥♥♥ in this thread.

[Menace]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Blood Raven Cyrus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menace:

we're well past 5 minutes into the patch.
the fencing parry changes were a change to set them aside from balanced and blocking beyond just having more parry frames, they explain that in the patch notes and the gameplay reflects it, not our fault people didn't read.
the bolt weapon buffs are not significant because the increases in damage doesn't help them meet alot of damage breakpoints that enemies have. it makes some of the highest tier enemies die in single digit less shots.
stalker bolter got the only noticable change for killing warriors in a single less headshot

bolters shouldnt 1 shot nids unless its a headshot to trash mobs otherwise if bolters should chaos bolters should do the same because rubricae marines are using same bolt weapons we do

that's part of the problem, the heavy bolt rifle only kills gaunts in one headshot below ruthless, still doesn't kill in one headshot against Tzangors. you keep posting as if I want the game to be a breeze when I'd much prefer the bolt weapons to get brought up to be equal and feel good to use like everything else

[[Blood Raven] Cyrus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menace:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Blood Raven Cyrus:

bolters shouldnt 1 shot nids unless its a headshot to trash mobs otherwise if bolters should chaos bolters should do the same because rubricae marines are using same bolt weapons we do

that's part of the problem, the heavy bolt rifle only kills gaunts in one headshot below ruthless, still doesn't kill in one headshot against Tzangors. you keep posting as if I want the game to be a breeze when I'd much prefer the bolt weapons to get brought up to be equal and feel good to use like everything else

tzangors arent material beings they are demons otherwise youd just snipe some lord of change with bolt rifle and it be done with it

[(SP)War4Ever]

Diposting pertama kali oleh relaive2309:

Can someone please tell me? There is no mention of the following in the developer comments, so does that mean the rollback is not complete?
- Melta nerf
- Parry nerf
- Ammo acquisition limit
- Scan nerf
And will bolt weapons have enough buffs to be able to carry over to Ruthless difficulty?

If these nerfs remain, I will not retract my low rating and I will not reinstall.

Melta did not get nerfed, the Meltabomb did exclusively vs bosses, how people continue to misread this is beyond me if your a one trick melta dependant pony your melta is fine.

The Fencing change was more of a buff, definitely not a nerf, your parry frames begin the moment you hit the button, this means you can block at the absolute last second and are always guaranteed the parry. Overall it doesn't even feel different, if you're struggling with this one you're just bad at parrying. This one is a skill issue, full stop.

The ammo acquistion they hopefully reverted for the lower difficulties while leaving it as is on Lethal, honestly could start on Ruthless too, teach people to actually manage their ammo.

Auspex change was fine, you can still instantly delete bosses with the 30% reduction, it was absolutely insane before they toned it down and it still does it's job. You can still 1 phase the Heldrake and delete the entire healthbar of a carni/neuro/helbrute in one duration of Auspex post change so I'd say this is still fine.

We'll have to see on the bolt weapons, a few were already viable but the vast majority were pretty weak but it's nice to see them begin tweaking them upwards.

[Menace]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Blood Raven Cyrus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menace:

that's part of the problem, the heavy bolt rifle only kills gaunts in one headshot below ruthless, still doesn't kill in one headshot against Tzangors. you keep posting as if I want the game to be a breeze when I'd much prefer the bolt weapons to get brought up to be equal and feel good to use like everything else

tzangors arent material beings they are demons otherwise youd just snipe some lord of change with bolt rifle and it be done with it

beastmen aren't daemons. the warhammer wiki is there if you need an entry into the lore and there's plenty of novels and short stories.

[[Blood Raven] Cyrus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menace:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Blood Raven Cyrus:

tzangors arent material beings they are demons otherwise youd just snipe some lord of change with bolt rifle and it be done with it

beastmen aren't daemons. the warhammer wiki is there if you need an entry into the lore and there's plenty of novels and short stories.

yea they are mutants meaning they are still tougher then avrage human