pvp matchmaking

[Coth]

is unbelievably dogass. 25-18 levels play agains 1-3, yeah right. what "fun" it is to play with basic guns agains someone who has everything unlocked

[Soji]

there really isn't any real matchmaking in this game, it just matches people searching at the same time. Regardless of anything like mmr or group size. It honestly makes pvp unplayable when you consider it doesn't shuffle the lobby at the end of a match either.

[pi73r]

Level and equipment don't mean that much.

[Coth]

Originally posted by pi73r:

Level and equipment don't mean that much.

Of course they do. I don't have access to thunder hammer and am forced to play with chainsword on assault.

[pi73r]

Originally posted by Coth:

Originally posted by pi73r:

Level and equipment don't mean that much.

Of course they do. I don't have access to thunder hammer and am forced to play with chainsword on assault.

While some of the weapons unlocked are slightly better (but tbh, most are worse) it doesn't really matter in casual PvP mode. I was going ~35 kills: 0 deaths with all vanilla weps on a few classes already.

[lvan]

I think its perfectly fine, on my first ever match at level 1 i managed to be top score against players that were of way higher level, the equipment doesn't give you any unfair advantages and some of the best guns are unlocked at very low levels, and frankly some of the higher level weapons aren't worth the hassle, since they are genuinely worse.

The PVP would be absolutely dead if there was any sorta of stupid cs-go like ranked matchmaking as there aren't enough players for that, and besides its casual PVP.

[Chainsaws]

yes it happen a lot there difference in lvls in matching and one team get annhilated ive played a Lot of pvp and yes it happen very often sadly

[lvan]

Originally posted by Coth:

Originally posted by pi73r:

Level and equipment don't mean that much.

Of course they do. I don't have access to thunder hammer and am forced to play with chainsword on assault.

you just need to get to level 4, that's like 4-5 matches at most. Note that its *veterancy* level that you need not class level, so you can play with any class and you will unlock weapons for all of them.

[Firefwex]

i am still playing with the standard weapons lol

[C3>]

Lvl 1 Tactical with a standard bolter, or Heavy with bolter are still top 3 picks.

Only thing you're working towards in pvp is the Fusil for one shot head kills (which are largely trash since lag is terrible in this game) and the Tactical Plasma who's single non-charged fire is insane. The stun grenade is the only thing you need that you don't start with.

a team of level 1's that stick together will obliterate a team of 25's playing far apart. PVP is about grouping and numbers superiority.

[pi73r]

Lvl 1 Tactical with a standard bolter, or Heavy with bolter are still top 3 picks.

Actually heavy gets better unlocks which outdmg normal bolter. I haven't played pvp in a while but I remember one match where I wouldn't kill enemy heavy even when I started firing earlier because his dps was higher.
But yea, in the long run and in 6v6 scenario skill and minimum teamwork >>>>>>>>> weapons.

[C3>]

Originally posted by pi73r:

Lvl 1 Tactical with a standard bolter, or Heavy with bolter are still top 3 picks.

Actually heavy gets better unlocks which outdmg normal bolter. I haven't played pvp in a while but I remember one match where I wouldn't kill enemy heavy even when I started firing earlier because his dps was higher.
But yea, in the long run and in 6v6 scenario skill and minimum teamwork >>>>>>>>> weapons.

I semi enjoyed the Melta before the Dodge roll nerf. Pop cover > Melta > roll behind cover >repeat. The range is just so low that the bolter outshines it in almost every case.

The Plasma is meh. Any player with half a brain can step aside from a plasma shot since the arc is slow and highly visible.