"Lethal" difficulty is too easy

[Lavenza]

Yesterday went through all the missions on “lethal” difficulty, each with a random group, some missions were completed on bastion 18 lvl. Missions where the enemy is chaos were passed on the first try, Thousand Sons can not provide any resistance at all. People who complain that the “lethal” difficulty is too hard, do you even know how to play? And what should the highest difficulty look like? As long as you can get through it with a random group, no 25 level character and fully pumped weapons, it's too easy.

[Athanasius Deathward]

Tried Lethal a couple times today, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right on the start despite plenty of xp, fencing weapon and maxed out weapons. Ok, let me try going back to Ruthless to untilt... Absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again multiple times in a row, where I used to have to trouble at all. The amount of ranged chaos enemies is way too much to manage.

Wasnt able to end a single mission with decent randoms.

Wasnt fun.
Upload gameplay otherwise I think you are just baiting.

[Naus]

I got you Brother, I also hope maybe in next updates we get some higher difficulty, I expected real challenge from Lethal it's a bit more chaotic, but if you know how to parry and move with the team it's so easy I almost fell asleep.

Yesterday I finished it with green weapon, one random and a bot, while playing with my balls at the same time.
Game needs to be more challenging or it get's boring fast.

[Lavenza]

Originally posted by Athanasius Deathward:

Tried Lethal a couple times today, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right on the start despite plenty of xp, fencing weapon and maxed out weapons. Ok, let me try going back to Ruthless to untilt... Absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again multiple times in a row, where I used to have to trouble at all. The amount of ranged chaos enemies is way too much to manage.

Wasnt able to end a single mission with decent randoms.

Wasnt fun.
Upload gameplay otherwise I think you are just baiting.

I honestly don't understand your problem, it's not a provocation. I went through all the missions on max difficulty without much trouble. You can add me as a friend and I'll help you out.

[-=Argent Moon=-]

true, i agree, i played through lethal with lvl1 bulwark using one hand ezpz
game 2 ez 4 me no challenge.

[Lavenza]

Originally posted by Argent Moon:

true, i agree, i played through lethal with lvl1 bulwark using one hand ezpz
game 2 ez 4 me no challenge.

It's already a blatant lie. I can help you if it's too much trouble.

[sleepgood]

Yeah dude I beat the whole series playing with my toes, I cannot believe anyone is having issues with this.

[Coreleon]

If ppl know what they are doing its fine and a lot of fun but as in other difficulties, when ppl do stupid stuff you could get in trouble fast.

We have the classics like hoarding stims and steal executes (or Headshot Majoris you about to execute) and now also thetering can be really bad.

Have seen a lot of ppl that dont know about it or dont care (?) and keep running elsewhere to getting nuked. They than rage quit or keep dying and in rare cases they are more careful.

Problematic is when one man down and they are running across the map to do something and you have to deal with a wave or warriors or anything.

Mostly Melees doing this and I can get it but It would for all a lot easier if they deal with the stuff swarming us and the range classes take down Biozid Bros instead to hunt them across the map and trigger 5 more packs.
But I would guess they will learn it the next days or simply stay away from lethal so it should be fine over time... hopefully.

[Valravn]

Riiiiight guess I am the unlucky one, getting teammates that leave all the time, don't know what they are doing so go down a lot, don't care about cohesion etc. And that is when I manage to find actual team members at all, because it feels like not many people are playing lethal.

[Clynol]

I think it’s fine as it is right now. If the missions required organised groups to complete, it wouldn’t be ideal for those who don’t have friends to play with. At least currently, you can still finish them with random teammates, even if it means facing some challenges with less experienced players on your team.

[Lavenza]

Originally posted by Coreleon:

If ppl know what they are doing its fine and a lot of fun but as in other difficulties, when ppl do stupid stuff you could get in trouble fast.

We have the classics like hoarding stims and steal executes (or Headshot Majoris you about to execute) and now also thetering can be really bad.

Have seen a lot of ppl that dont know about it or dont care (?) and keep running elsewhere to getting nuked. They than rage quit or keep dying and in rare cases they are more careful.

Problematic is when one man down and they are running across the map to do something and you have to deal with a wave or warriors or anything.

Mostly Melees doing this and I can get it but It would for all a lot easier if they deal with the stuff swarming us and the range classes take down Biozid Bros instead to hunt them across the map and trigger 5 more packs.
But I would guess they will learn it the next days or simply stay away from lethal so it should be fine over time... hopefully.

There are always people who don't understand how to play as a team, apparently my discussion and striggered such people. I may have been constantly lucky with the team, very rarely there were people who rush map, with such players its impossible to win. I usually lost when the game director summoned a boss and a horde at the same time.

[Lavenza]

Originally posted by Clynol:

I think it’s fine as it is right now. If the missions required organised groups to complete, it wouldn’t be ideal for those who don’t have friends to play with. At least currently, you can still finish them with random teammates, even if it means facing some challenges with less experienced players on your team.

I agree when we speak about tyranids, they can put up a good fight, but chaos after nerf can't.

[≈ Mësç ≈]

Originally posted by Arman1800:

Yesterday went through all the missions on “lethal” difficulty, each with a random group, some missions were completed on bastion 18 lvl. Missions where the enemy is chaos were passed on the first try, Thousand Sons can not provide any resistance at all. People who complain that the “lethal” difficulty is too hard, do you even know how to play? And what should the highest difficulty look like? As long as you can get through it with a random group, no 25 level character and fully pumped weapons, it's too easy.

Well , Your girlfriend has being saying it, now the 4K gaming community is saying it...

" Get harder "

[Lavenza]

Originally posted by Valravn:

Riiiiight guess I am the unlucky one, getting teammates that leave all the time, don't know what they are doing so go down a lot, don't care about cohesion etc. And that is when I manage to find actual team members at all, because it feels like not many people are playing lethal.

I have a hunch, maybe your regional server has a lot of players like that? I've met them, but it was rare. There was always a team for the “lethal” difficulty.

[Foxtrot 813]

Originally posted by Athanasius Deathward:

Tried Lethal a couple times today, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right on the start despite plenty of xp, fencing weapon and maxed out weapons. Ok, let me try going back to Ruthless to untilt... Absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again multiple times in a row, where I used to have to trouble at all. The amount of ranged chaos enemies is way too much to manage.

Wasnt able to end a single mission with decent randoms.

Wasnt fun.
Upload gameplay otherwise I think you are just baiting.

I think it's the RNG the problem. I finished Lethal missions that barely made me sweat but got rekted on lower difficulties. The moment the RNG gods want you to be dead they throw everything at you and the kitchen sink. It extend to almost all difficulties, some stuff are just annoying, like having 2 lictors taking turn clawing you to the ground while having to deal with a wave of mobs.

[Janthis]

Originally posted by Lame:

Yeah dude I beat the whole series playing with my toes, I cannot believe anyone is having issues with this.

I beat the hardest difficulty on my first try while blindfolded and using a guitar controller. I killed everything so fast the devs personally called to congratulate me and offer me a job as gaming expert, but I said "It's too easy, you need to make it harder!" :P