Tactical with energetic sword

[JohnPasSmith]

I'm not lying mister inquisitor, i've seen a tactical with an energetic sword, how ???

[Epathos]

Mods, and I don't suggest using them.

[BirdDinosaur]

there are mods and also hackers.

[Sareseras]

Can they appear in everybodies game?

Remember other games where I was being blessed by modders presence and presents without having mods myself such as Dungeons Siege 3 and Starbound, but also know sometimes it makes modded players and regulars incompatible to play together like in Minecraft for example.

Don't know the rules to this so am curious if its something me and my friends could encounter.

[cszolee79]

Devs / Focus officially stated that they don't mind PvE mods like the armory unlocker.

[zmanbuilder]

I know the title was a typo, but the mental picture is funny to me. A energetic sword lol.

But there is a mod that allows all classes to use all weapon, and heard tell that mod causes people who played with them to lose all of their progress. But that cannot be confirmed for now.

[Foxplay]

Cheating is Cheating, Classes are balanced around what weapons they have access to

[Ishan451]

People cheating via mods to make every weapon available to their class.

cszolee79 eredeti hozzászólása:

Devs / Focus officially stated that they don't mind PvE mods like the armory unlocker.

Source? If they really would be fine with this, they wouldn't have class restricted weapons.

[McDinglefart]

JohnPasSmith eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not lying mister inquisitor, i've seen a tactical with an energetic sword, how ???

It's a hacker using Operation Arsenal hack on Nexus. Saber is aware of the issue and working on the fix. The latest update broke modding, but these hackers found a way to circumvent it. I already reported to Saber how they do it.

Sareseras eredeti hozzászólása:

Don't know the rules to this so am curious if its something me and my friends could encounter.

The moment you spot a modder, quit immediately (but take a screenshot and report to saber).
I've seen plenty of cases where hackers ruin other players' accounts or progression in other games just by joining unsuspecting players' sessions.

Sareseras eredeti hozzászólása:

Can they appear in everybodies game?

Don't know the rules to this so am curious if its something me and my friends could encounter.

Yes, and hacks disguised as "mods" like Operation Arsenal violate Saber's TOS. It clearly states that circumventing restrictions imposed by Saber is not allowed.

That's why Saber is now exploring ways to prevent this abuse.

[McDinglefart]

cszolee79 eredeti hozzászólása:

Devs / Focus officially stated that they don't mind PvE mods like the armory unlocker.

No, they didn’t. All you have is a tweet from someone at Saber talking about modding, calling it creativity and using typical corporate slogans.

Saber knows and already replied that they looking into it to prevent hacking like this.
https://imgur.com/a/1jeII8c

They've likely been working on this since launch, given they've already implemented some guardrails to protect the online game from modding in the latest update (those kinds of things take a long time to do).
But hackers still manage to find workarounds—though probably not for long.

[Medicles]

Foxplay eredeti hozzászólása:

Cheating is Cheating, Classes are balanced around what weapons they have access to

They arent balanced around that, the limit has other reasons. There wouldnt be any balance problem if the classes would get access to more weapons, within reason though. No assault with heavy bolter.

[Johnno]

Medicles eredeti hozzászólása:

They arent balanced around that, the limit has other reasons. There wouldnt be any balance problem if the classes would get access to more weapons, within reason though. No assault with heavy bolter.

Why not? Why no Primaris Suppressors or Inceptors?
Why shouldn't Assault have access to Accelerator Autocannons, or Plasma Exterminators? Or as you mention heavy bolter, why shouldn't they have twin Assault Bolters, as per lore?

[McDinglefart]

Johnno eredeti hozzászólása:

Medicles eredeti hozzászólása:

They arent balanced around that, the limit has other reasons. There wouldnt be any balance problem if the classes would get access to more weapons, within reason though. No assault with heavy bolter.

Why not? Why no Primaris Suppressors or Inceptors?
Why shouldn't Assault have access to Accelerator Autocannons, or Plasma Exterminators? Or as you mention heavy bolter, why shouldn't they have twin Assault Bolters, as per lore?

Why doesn’t the melta one-shot bosses like it’s supposed to in the lore? Because it's a game, and following game logic is more important than lore. Removing class restrictions would erase their uniqueness and create a need for extra balancing.

[Medicles]

Johnno eredeti hozzászólása:

Why not? Why no Primaris Suppressors or Inceptors?
Why shouldn't Assault have access to Accelerator Autocannons, or Plasma Exterminators? Or as you mention heavy bolter, why shouldn't they have twin Assault Bolters, as per lore?

Because we arent talking about Suppressors or Inceptors, we are talking about a simple Assault marine and they dont carry heavy weapons.

[Johnno]

Medicles eredeti hozzászólása:

Johnno eredeti hozzászólása:

Why not? Why no Primaris Suppressors or Inceptors?
Why shouldn't Assault have access to Accelerator Autocannons, or Plasma Exterminators? Or as you mention heavy bolter, why shouldn't they have twin Assault Bolters, as per lore?

Because we arent talking about Suppressors or Inteceptors, we are talking about a simple Assault marine and they dont carry heavy weapons.

It's not a simple assault marine though. Simple assault marines don't carry twohanded thunderhammers, or powerfists. At best it could be a jump pack intercessor sergeant, to have a powersword, plasma pistol, power first.. but no hammer.

[McDinglefart]

Johnno eredeti hozzászólása:

Medicles eredeti hozzászólása:

Because we arent talking about Suppressors or Inteceptors, we are talking about a simple Assault marine and they dont carry heavy weapons.

It's not a simple assault marine though. Simple assault marines don't carry twohanded thunderhammers, or powerfists. At best it could be a jump pack intercessor sergeant, to have a powersword, plasma pistol, power first.. but no hammer.

It's a GAME. No single space marine would stand a chance against 5 tyranid warriors. No space marine would survive entire horde of minors with diamond claws piercing their armors like it's a wet tissue. No space marine would survive multiple ravagers and lictors. Even 3 of them.
Following lore a single tyranid warrior is a substantial threat to a single primaries marine.