Bulwark Banner not giving health

[Metal The Dragon]

Did this update break the banner giving HP when placing it down ?

[( °□°） ︵GAMBALUCK]

Its bug, now u need to use level 23 perk

[Vazc0]

the patch fixed the bug that you got the lvl23 perk for free without using it.

so now you actually need to use the healing perk to heal.

[Metal The Dragon]

that was a bug ? It been like that since launch so I though it was a feature

[ganjou241]

Originally posted by Vazc0:

the patch fixed the bug that you got the lvl23 perk for free without using it.

so now you actually need to use the healing perk to heal.

I've always used it...so I could have used something else before?

[Vazc0]

Originally posted by ganjou241:

Originally posted by Vazc0:

the patch fixed the bug that you got the lvl23 perk for free without using it.

so now you actually need to use the healing perk to heal.

I've always used it...so I could have used something else before?

yes

[Phileosophos]

Oh, wow, I was just about to ask. I thought that's just how it worked. That's a seriously painful nerf to all the people playing bulwark. Ouch.

[Vazc0]

Originally posted by Phileosophos:

Oh, wow, I was just about to ask. I thought that's just how it worked. That's a seriously painful nerf to all the people playing bulwark. Ouch.

i wouldnt say that its a nerf. its working as intended now. the only thing you lose is what? the bit of damage the banner did with the first skill? i didnt even notice it.

[Phileosophos]

Originally posted by Vazc0:

Originally posted by Phileosophos:

Oh, wow, I was just about to ask. I thought that's just how it worked. That's a seriously painful nerf to all the people playing bulwark. Ouch.

i wouldnt say that its a nerf. its working as intended now. the only thing you lose is what? the bit of damage the banner did with the first skill? i didnt even notice it.

I'm surprised you didn't notice as what we lost was HUGE, namely, the complete fill-up of the contested health on your health bar when the banner is deployed. The very night before the patch my L17 bulwark dropped a banner at exactly the right moment in a fight that nearly wiped the team. We were all down to a sliver of health, and when I saw two medium tyranids awaiting execution I dropped the banner. That completely filled all our contested health bars to max. My two teammates executed those two foes and were restored to full health. Whereas yesterday I dropped a banner and my contested health didn't budge.

(And to be clear, contested health is that lighter-colored part of your health bar that you can still recover if you execute an enemy)

It looks like I'll get that back at L22, but until the patch I believe all bulwark characters were benefiting from that regardless of level. It may have been a bug, and now it's "fixed", so maybe you object to it being called a "nerf", but in actual practice it sure feels like one ugly nerf.

[777]

I have the same. It only heals at the beginning and quickly resets.

[Vazc0]

Originally posted by 777:

I have the same. It only heals at the beginning and quickly resets.

that is intended. you get temp health that you have to heal by executing / gunstriking or doing damage.

[Clockeye]

hi, I'm lost. What the hell happened. Can y'all name the perk that was "fixed" and what y'all are using as a substitute.

[reevestone]

Originally posted by Clockeye:

hi, I'm lost. What the hell happened. Can y'all name the perk that was "fixed" and what y'all are using as a substitute.

Since launch, the Lvl... I believe it was the Lvl 8 perk, "Banner revives downed Allies" also gave all Allies in range full Contested Health even though it wasn't meant to. That's the bug. It replicated the Lvl... 22 I think, perk that says, "Banner gives Allies full Contested Health", which was actually meant to have this effect (and did, just a lot of people ignored it because the Lvl 8 perk had the same effect on top of having another useful effect).

[Clockeye]

Originally posted by reevestone:

Originally posted by Clockeye:

hi, I'm lost. What the hell happened. Can y'all name the perk that was "fixed" and what y'all are using as a substitute.

Since launch, the Lvl... I believe it was the Lvl 8 perk, "Banner revives downed Allies" also gave all Allies in range full Contested Health even though it wasn't meant to. That's the bug. It replicated the Lvl... 22 I think, perk that says, "Banner gives Allies full Contested Health", which was actually meant to have this effect (and did, just a lot of people ignored it because the Lvl 8 perk had the same effect on top of having another useful effect).

aw ok, thanks. I though the perk Invigoration Icon got the fix in question. So I was about to bury my Bulwark lol. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Erufen Rito]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmtjW-8hd6A

[Garbagepanda]

Originally posted by Phileosophos:

Originally posted by Vazc0:

i wouldnt say that its a nerf. its working as intended now. the only thing you lose is what? the bit of damage the banner did with the first skill? i didnt even notice it.

I'm surprised you didn't notice as what we lost was HUGE, namely, the complete fill-up of the contested health on your health bar when the banner is deployed. The very night before the patch my L17 bulwark dropped a banner at exactly the right moment in a fight that nearly wiped the team. We were all down to a sliver of health, and when I saw two medium tyranids awaiting execution I dropped the banner. That completely filled all our contested health bars to max. My two teammates executed those two foes and were restored to full health. Whereas yesterday I dropped a banner and my contested health didn't budge.

(And to be clear, contested health is that lighter-colored part of your health bar that you can still recover if you execute an enemy)

It looks like I'll get that back at L22, but until the patch I believe all bulwark characters were benefiting from that regardless of level. It may have been a bug, and now it's "fixed", so maybe you object to it being called a "nerf", but in actual practice it sure feels like one ugly nerf.

you can still do it man, you just need the appropriate skill, that was always active due to a glitch. its very clearly a fix not a nerf, even if you feel differently.