I suck at PvP, and I love it!

[mindspat]

Are you one of these kinds of players?

I've notice there's often teammates who run the other way at the first sign of contact. On occasion I find someone who will stand toe-to-toe and watch your flank. Pick-up-groups can be painful at times.

How can I do better and how can I achieve higher scores?

[Muscles]

I found that I started winning more matches if I stood about 10-20 meters behind my teammates who are at the front and gunned down every enemy Assault I saw. I stopped top-scoring for it but I felt like this was an improvement for me

[Ziel]

PvP is quite good yep, first step to improve is to know the map, the spawn location and where your mates are, it gives essential informations to guess where your opponents are.

Then you need to understand how all classes work and how has the upperhand in situations. Like playing tactical against heavy with halo at close range, you're almost f****d.
Seeing what your team and the other pick, can also help to make the right call in picking.

Still assault and bulwark are slightly above, tactical is also super strong.

[PrincyLORD]

PVP is a piece of s, when u are level belong 10 and encountered the lv25 players, they use laser plasma'n melta, u just have an ordinary gun with a classical grenade, good, very good.

[Mosc]

I would say stick to playing domination game mode and not team deathmatch. I also let lower level players pick tactical or heavy since those are the easier classes to play when first starting out. Other classes need a few unlock to get better.

Stick with your team, know when to push middle or when to flank. i see to many times when everyone on the team flanks/ or push middle and end up losing all the capture points.

[Ziel]

Originally posted by PrincyLORD:

PVP is a piece of s, when u are level belong 10 and encountered the lv25 players, they use laser plasma'n melta, u just have an ordinary gun with a classical grenade, good, very good.

Melta is not a great weapon to play with in pvp. You have ton of good weapons in early lvl, 25 is not offering an advantage against the other, skill does.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by mindspat:

Are you one of these kinds of players?

I've notice there's often teammates who run the other way at the first sign of contact. On occasion I find someone who will stand toe-to-toe and watch your flank. Pick-up-groups can be painful at times.

How can I do better and how can I achieve higher scores?

1. First of all - decide which class you wanna play and stick to it for some time until you learn it well, because every class in PVP is like a different game actually, the play style differs A LOT.

2. Learn the maps lay out.


3. Stick together with your team every time, don't get lost - SM2 pvp is EXTREMELY team play game.


4. bind the most important keys (keyboard and mouse) so that you can use them instinctively without wasting precious mili seconds to find them on the keyboard when you need them most - this is a twitch shooter, it's not about seconds, it's about mili seconds.


5. learn to roll (for example in the sparring room) and do it as often as you can, when you're being shot at, when you wanna escape, change position quickly etc - rolling is your friend - it makes you stay alive longer.

These are the basics, I may add some more later.

[The Spirit of Jazz]

It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by The Spirit of Jazz:

It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.

Knowledge is power, hide it well ;)

[Marcus]

I thought the Blood Raven's motto was "Take every war gear you see, even if they belong to your allies."

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Marcus:

I thought the Blood Raven's motto was "Take every war gear you see, even if they belong to your allies."

...or - STEAL (Strategically Transfer Equipment to Alternative Location) :D

[xXxAstartesPandaxXx42069]

Dont and just enjoy it for the tacted on bonus that it is. Its very underwhelming considering what SM1 had and what EC did.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by AstartesPanda:

Dont and just enjoy it for the tacted on bonus that it is. Its very underwhelming considering what SM1 had and what EC did.

You meant what EC was supposed to do...but never did.

[Tsorig]

My advice to you is just master your class you like to play (skill, know when to engage and when to retreat) , learn to play with team and how to out smart your opponents.

PvP is very balanced between the classes imo, there is no class that clearly stands out compared to others.

Your ability to work around your team mates, advanced situation awareness and personal high skill level makes you stand out top of the list in the end.

[xXxAstartesPandaxXx42069]

Originally posted by wojciechk50:

Originally posted by AstartesPanda:

Dont and just enjoy it for the tacted on bonus that it is. Its very underwhelming considering what SM1 had and what EC did.

You meant what EC was supposed to do...but never did.

Oh agreed it pooped the bed hard for many reasons but for all its problems there was some good stuff. Nothing like the Fortress maps 30 vs 30 blasting the gates open with a vindicator and then charging into the breach with a bunch of ya battle brothers as rhinos and pred tanks speed by you. Ive just found myself missing it as SM2 6v6 pvp is pretty lame, 3 maps, 3 modes. Can only make a party of 3 friends for some reason.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by AstartesPanda:

Originally posted by wojciechk50:

You meant what EC was supposed to do...but never did.

Oh agreed it pooped the bed hard for many reasons but for all its problems there was some good stuff. Nothing like the Fortress maps 30 vs 30 blasting the gates open with a vindicator and then charging into the breach with a bunch of ya battle brothers as rhinos and pred tanks speed by you. Ive just found myself missing it as SM2 6v6 pvp is pretty lame, 3 maps, 3 modes. Can only make a party of 3 friends for some reason.

Yup, it had its brighter moments, especially in beta. When Eldars got added everything started going down hill. I personally enjoyed parking my Predator on control points (or whatever it was called) and defending them in this way XD


The scale was ok, player number was ok, vehicles were ok but graphics sucked and balance too + we didn't get the promised 1k player battles (picco servers anybody :D ), persistent world, economy aspect, mine fields, terminators, titans (there was only a wreck of one on Fortress map if I remember correctly - a great reflexion of what this game became XD)...aaand 10 years of continous development. Meaning - the devs lied big time, unlike SM2 devs - they never overpromised, never created that false hype train to mercilessly milk the naive players before they realised what was going on.


SM2 is plain and simple - capaign, pve, pvp - love it or hate it. I love it :)