Knife vs ChainSword

[DELAMAIN]

i see no difference when i attack elite. same speed damage TKK.
swarms i deal with melta. bosses with volt pistol
i play vang

[w10-20-2000]

Chainsword deals more damage and has easy stagger combo Shoulder Bash, also wider strikes when you are forced in melee against minoris horde and Stomp for same purpose

[Mohrrunkel]

The base damage, attack speed and range (cleave) are obvious. What is not is that the attack speed directly translates to the time you lock yourself in an attack animation and therefore can't dodge. In short, Knife is more nimble.

[Thook]

fencing knife is waay too slow, with sniper i always run the balanced (the only balance weapon i use, fencing on everything else)
with vangaurd i do chainsword, not sure about balanced knife on him since he melees a ton vs sniper, but he does have that parry perk,
im just saying the speed of the balanced knife makes it much better for the sniper, its not like you cant still parry and your sniping the big guys, the balanced knife shreds the little guys and makes a quicker kill on the bigger guys, and feel much better, esp vs chaos where you wont be parrying as much

[Ichi-niiPL]

Chainsword is way better lmao, it's not even close, i only use knife on sniper because that's the only option.

[Thahat]

Originally posted by Ichi-niiPL:

Chainsword is way better lmao, it's not even close, i only use knife on sniper because that's the only option.

get the stab option on the knife(bottom perk tree), it suddenly becomes way stronger than the chainsword for single targets.

[Fenris]

Get rid of the VS nonsense Use What is Fun and what you want to use. i love using the Knife because of the Cool animations, and with the Right Skillset it does not matter at the end, i do as good with the Knife as i Do with the Chainsword it does not matter at some point, atleast for me. But yes the Chainsword is Better Stat wise and mutch easier to learn it needs no Skill, but with some Training and good Reflexes and Blocking Mobs it makes no Difference against Tyranids, because when you Focus Synaps Tyranids (The Controling Tyranids like Warriors or Lictors ect) they deal AOE damage to the Mobs when they Die, so you can just Kill enemies by Killing other enemies

[goobyplz]

IMO knife is better for rage ability, it allows endless combo and carries you forward and potentially away from attacks from the back. chainsword is slower, does eventually take a break from combos, and locks you out of defences longer. Better for fighting when surrounded with swarms imo. Not a bad use, but you have to ask if your build is better used to maximize rage.

[Naus]

There is huge difference, I hate using knife, it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on lethal. Only good thing about knife is visual aspect, both skins and execturion animations I like. Damege, range, attack animation on the other hand really suck balls.
Chainsword tops knife in every way.

[Anihilatitron]

To be honest, the knife looks badass as all get-out, but the chainsword is definitely the overall superior weapon, as it should be. I dunno about no fancy statistics or anything like that, but I can hear and get a feel for the damage feedback; the knife makes a distinct sound when it scores a kill, whereas you can see the chainsword kills gaunts much more quickly en masse than the knife's "ca-clink" sound when it scores a kill.

All in all though, it's hard to decide which one is more fun to use. I like 'em both. A 'LOT' more than the laughably inaccurate ranged weapons. The spread on the "precision bolter" is horrible, nine times outta ten, even if I was up against a carnifex, I'd still rather use a knife than a gun.

[Anihilatitron]

I'm glad they made the knife actually worth using in this one though; it 'is' an improvement over SM 1's knife. The devs are definitely big fans of melee combat~.

[Realigo Actual]

With regards to the knife specifically though, I don't like how long I need to wait to go from a heavy to a quick. Ofentimes chainsword I get hung up on the heavy combo when I just wanted to open with a heavy. Often the chainsword doesn't give me this issue with how it flows.

[Tao]

knife has better stagger with shadow stab spam, but the fencing version is 1 speed too slow for heavy attack combos to work nicely as directional input causes your character to take a step resetting the combo to light 1.

personally balanced knife on vanguard, i dont use chainsword as i find it a bit boring and hammer or power sword are better on bulwark/assault

[Anihilatitron]

Interesting. Never seen that setup before thus far; sounds like it'd be pretty awesome to watch.

[DELAMAIN]

what i feel is that when i use best Chain ( fencing ) and best Knife ( balance with 7 speed ) =
i do like 1-2 more attacks more on elites with knife if good scenario.
most of time its 3 attacks before parry

[DELAMAIN]

i mean parry still good even with balance knife on vang