So how do you get mods to work in private matches?

[Mister Magician]

Abandoned the game a week after it came out (like 90%+ of the playebase), but only came back because apparently the devs are angry about mods. I had no idea there even were mods in the first place, so here I am again.

I am reading that even attempting to have a mod on your game automatically shoves you into offline, progressionless lobbies.

How precisely do you go to online but private lobbies? If I'm going to have to carry bots to grind out meaningless "fill the bar" milestones online, it might as well be actual bots and I might as well have fun doing it.

[w10-20-2000]

There was online fix for that, but devs announced yesterday that they will be supporting mods, releasing toolkit for them and allow to use them in private lobbies without any fixes.

You can try to search for fix, or wait until mods officially added

[Scy25]

Where does it mention progressionless?

[Mister Magician]

Originally posted by Scy25:

Where does it mention progressionless?

Nothing you do offline saves.

[Mister Magician]

Apparently there is a bypass online, but the only two mods available worth using "aestartes" or "primarch" come with extra baggage that takes an absurd amount of work to remove.

With the mods the matches actually take longer because the spawn rate is 10-20 times higher (think entire swarms made only of warriors or shooters, and then 3+ minibosses on each setpeice). 10 minute missions are now well over an hour.

To remove the spawn increases (or the extra maps than can corrupt your saves) you practically have to rewrite the whole mod, and then faff about in a hex editor to re-pak everything. Worse, you need the original un-edited files to fix the mods, which means you need to do multiple clean reinstalls of the game every time you want to edit or tweak anything.

Not one thing about this game comes without strings attatched.

Not even the "fun" mods.

[Nekros]

They didn’t want mods of any sort but now that the game is in serious trouble of being dead in under a year to a title they plan to keep adding paid cosmetics to. They have no choice but to allow mods. Not that EAC was stopping any actually harmful mods like legit hacking the PvP mode on launch day. It was there to stop progression hacks so you’re forced to endure the grind times to get a relic tier weapon or rank 25 class.

Trust me, Saber is a AAA studio that runs exactly like EA or Ubisoft. This isn’t a good will gesture, this is to keep you on the hook longer. They’re a business making a long term investment they hope will pay off and it’s relatively no skin off their backs.

[DJ Gershwin]

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Apparently there is a bypass online, but the only two mods available worth using "aestartes" or "primarch" come with extra baggage that takes an absurd amount of work to remove.

With the mods the matches actually take longer because the spawn rate is 10-20 times higher (think entire swarms made only of warriors or shooters, and then 3+ minibosses on each setpeice). 10 minute missions are now well over an hour.

To remove the spawn increases (or the extra maps than can corrupt your saves) you practically have to rewrite the whole mod, and then faff about in a hex editor to re-pak everything. Worse, you need the original un-edited files to fix the mods, which means you need to do multiple clean reinstalls of the game every time you want to edit or tweak anything.

Not one thing about this game comes without strings attatched.

Not even the "fun" mods.

No it doesn't stop lying. Astartes is STUPID easy to install and there is a version with ZERO balance changes. This game has some of the most simple modding I have ever seen. I have been playing online with Astartes Overhauled since it launched and not one time have I had to do any of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you're claiming.

[Mister Magician]

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Apparently there is a bypass online, but the only two mods available worth using "aestartes" or "primarch" come with extra baggage that takes an absurd amount of work to remove.

With the mods the matches actually take longer because the spawn rate is 10-20 times higher (think entire swarms made only of warriors or shooters, and then 3+ minibosses on each setpeice). 10 minute missions are now well over an hour.

To remove the spawn increases (or the extra maps than can corrupt your saves) you practically have to rewrite the whole mod, and then faff about in a hex editor to re-pak everything. Worse, you need the original un-edited files to fix the mods, which means you need to do multiple clean reinstalls of the game every time you want to edit or tweak anything.

Not one thing about this game comes without strings attatched.

Not even the "fun" mods.

No it doesn't stop lying. Astartes is STUPID easy to install and there is a version with ZERO balance changes. This game has some of the most simple modding I have ever seen. I have been playing online with Astartes Overhauled since it launched and not one time have I had to do any of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you're claiming.

I want the balance changes, I do not want the extra maps or extra cosmetics that can corrupt your saves.

To remove all of the above you would need to take a clean install of the game, edit the loose mod files (having to basically figure out the game's coding in the process), take the clean pak files and then one-by one install each edited file (which can be hundreds) into the clean pak IN A HEX EDITOR, then check to make sure the new pak file has the EXACT byte value of the original or else the game won't run (which means you need to go back, find the one file that isn't the right size and add in random characters until the sizes match).

To get online with mods you just need a hacked .exe file that the mod makers openly admit will trigger your virus scan (LOL).

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Apparently there is a bypass online, but the only two mods available worth using "aestartes" or "primarch" come with extra baggage that takes an absurd amount of work to remove.

With the mods the matches actually take longer because the spawn rate is 10-20 times higher (think entire swarms made only of warriors or shooters, and then 3+ minibosses on each setpeice). 10 minute missions are now well over an hour.

To remove the spawn increases (or the extra maps than can corrupt your saves) you practically have to rewrite the whole mod, and then faff about in a hex editor to re-pak everything. Worse, you need the original un-edited files to fix the mods, which means you need to do multiple clean reinstalls of the game every time you want to edit or tweak anything.

Not one thing about this game comes without strings attatched.

Not even the "fun" mods.

No it doesn't stop lying. Astartes is STUPID easy to install and there is a version with ZERO balance changes. This game has some of the most simple modding I have ever seen. I have been playing online with Astartes Overhauled since it launched and not one time have I had to do any of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you're claiming.

I'm not up to date on the modding scene as I run vanilla, but yeah. Looking directly at Astartes and there's the optional file with no balance changes. OP seems to also be unaware that private lobbies are different from being offline. Which, isn't really surprising.

[DJ Gershwin]

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

No it doesn't stop lying. Astartes is STUPID easy to install and there is a version with ZERO balance changes. This game has some of the most simple modding I have ever seen. I have been playing online with Astartes Overhauled since it launched and not one time have I had to do any of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you're claiming.

I want the balance changes, I do not want the extra maps or extra cosmetics that can corrupt your saves.

To remove all of the above you would need to take a clean install of the game, edit the loose mod files (having to basically figure out the game's coding in the process), take the clean pak files and then one-by one install each edited file (which can be hundreds) into the clean pak IN A HEX EDITOR, then check to make sure the new pak file has the EXACT byte value of the original or else the game won't run (which means you need to go back, find the one file that isn't the right size and add in random characters until the sizes match).

To get online with mods you just need a hacked .exe file that the mod makers openly admit will trigger your virus scan (LOL).

Oh noes, a crack triggering a virus scan, surely this is the end of all modding forever.....lol your trolling is sad and if you're actually serious I pity you dude.
Also WHAT save corruption lol?

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

Oh noes, a crack triggering a virus scan, surely this is the end of all modding forever.....lol your trolling is sad and if you're actually serious I pity you dude.
Also WHAT save corruption lol?

Sadly it ain't trollin. He usually does this. Also I think had a bad encounter with mods once and always thinks they'll cause save corruption. I think he raised a stink about mods causing save corruption in another forum as well if memory serves right

[w10-20-2000]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

Oh noes, a crack triggering a virus scan, surely this is the end of all modding forever.....lol your trolling is sad and if you're actually serious I pity you dude.
Also WHAT save corruption lol?

Sadly it ain't trollin. He usually does this. Also I think had a bad encounter with mods once and always thinks they'll cause save corruption. I think he raised a stink about mods causing save corruption in another forum as well if memory serves right

Used this mod on my game with all classes unlocked and all weapons on relic quality. Then update came with new sidearm. Launched file restoration in steam, launched a game and had zero problems with my save. If someone fear save corruption make backups. If you can't make backups then why are you installing mods in the first place ?

[Mister Magician]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

No it doesn't stop lying. Astartes is STUPID easy to install and there is a version with ZERO balance changes. This game has some of the most simple modding I have ever seen. I have been playing online with Astartes Overhauled since it launched and not one time have I had to do any of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you're claiming.

I'm not up to date on the modding scene as I run vanilla, but yeah. Looking directly at Astartes and there's the optional file with no balance changes. OP seems to also be unaware that private lobbies are different from being offline. Which, isn't really surprising.

Assume a number of things when talking to me, the first of which being I know more than you do. Over a year of dealing with me should have taught you that a hundred times over.

If you have ANY edited file the game automatically loads up in offline mode, which does not allow any progression online. To even play in private lobbies online for the game to catalogue your progression, you need a hacked executable.

Also I want the balance changes and nothing else, which requires the process mentioned above.

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

I want the balance changes, I do not want the extra maps or extra cosmetics that can corrupt your saves.

To remove all of the above you would need to take a clean install of the game, edit the loose mod files (having to basically figure out the game's coding in the process), take the clean pak files and then one-by one install each edited file (which can be hundreds) into the clean pak IN A HEX EDITOR, then check to make sure the new pak file has the EXACT byte value of the original or else the game won't run (which means you need to go back, find the one file that isn't the right size and add in random characters until the sizes match).

To get online with mods you just need a hacked .exe file that the mod makers openly admit will trigger your virus scan (LOL).

Oh noes, a crack triggering a virus scan, surely this is the end of all modding forever.....lol your trolling is sad and if you're actually serious I pity you dude.
Also WHAT save corruption lol?

In the most recent news item, the developers stated that the single reason they are adding official mod support is because the extra maps and cosmetics in aestartes specifically were corrupting the save files of people who didn't have the mod installed but played with randoms who did.

installing aestartes and uninstalling it (redownloading the entire game) without clearing ALL modded items in your loadouts have the same effect.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by w10-20-2000:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Sadly it ain't trollin. He usually does this. Also I think had a bad encounter with mods once and always thinks they'll cause save corruption. I think he raised a stink about mods causing save corruption in another forum as well if memory serves right

Used this mod on my game with all classes unlocked and all weapons on relic quality. Then update came with new sidearm. Launched file restoration in steam, launched a game and had zero problems with my save. If someone fear save corruption make backups. If you can't make backups then why are you installing mods in the first place ?

Honestly, might be just being new to mods? I figure some people go into modding thinking its plug n' play, they do something wrong. And then it spirals from there.

[w10-20-2000]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Originally posted by w10-20-2000:

Used this mod on my game with all classes unlocked and all weapons on relic quality. Then update came with new sidearm. Launched file restoration in steam, launched a game and had zero problems with my save. If someone fear save corruption make backups. If you can't make backups then why are you installing mods in the first place ?

Honestly, might be just being new to mods? I figure some people go into modding thinking its plug n' play, they do something wrong. And then it spirals from there.

Well it's mods, nothing is guaranteed or properly tested

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by Mister Magician:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

I'm not up to date on the modding scene as I run vanilla, but yeah. Looking directly at Astartes and there's the optional file with no balance changes. OP seems to also be unaware that private lobbies are different from being offline. Which, isn't really surprising.

Assume a number of things when talking to me, the first of which being I know more than you do. Over a year of dealing with me should have taught you that a hundred times over.

If you have ANY edited file the game automatically loads up in offline mode, which does not allow any progression online. To even play in private lobbies online for the game to catalogue your progression, you need a hacked executable.

Also I want the balance changes and nothing else, which requires the process mentioned above.

Originally posted by DJ Gershwin:

Oh noes, a crack triggering a virus scan, surely this is the end of all modding forever.....lol your trolling is sad and if you're actually serious I pity you dude.
Also WHAT save corruption lol?

In the most recent news item, the developers stated that the single reason they are adding official mod support is because the extra maps and cosmetics in aestartes specifically were corrupting the save files of people who didn't have the mod installed but played with randoms who did.

installing aestartes and uninstalling it (redownloading the entire game) without clearing ALL modded items in your loadouts have the same effect.

Y'know, it's really weird that I'm not reading that it's mod users being affected by mods with save files. What I'm reading directly is "We have also received user reports that their save files were corrupted after playing alongside players with mods.". But there's a chance you missed the wording which is a-okay :)

As for the supposed need for a hacked executable. "This is why, starting with our next big update in December, mods will be prohibited from public online sessions. That means that you will no longer be able to enter a public game if you have mods installed.



However, we know that mods are a source of fun and creativity, and they will still be allowed in private Operations lobbies. We will continue to provide all necessary server infrastructure so you can play online with your friends with mods. Once we add custom Eternal War lobbies, mods will work for them as well."

I'd highly recommend doing a twice over read. I used to do once-overs, but would glaze over things. Hell, I still do. But its okay to make mistakes :)