This has to be a joke?

[TheReloader]

In all the 20 years of lore and warhammer 40k books / art, I have never seen african black space marines. Now, if I want to play this game I am being forced to play one? I know you beta male white liberals love the unending diversity equity and inclusion. But keep that ♥♥♥♥ in your bedroom. Fck the devs of this game and fck anyone who supports this nonsense. Evil cannot create it only perverts what already is.

[KnightofRoyalty]

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Imagine thinking that a black Ultramarine breaks the lore

Bait used to be believable. I like how people pretend to read the books and than saying stupid ♥♥♥♥ like in this thread

[Moonlight Knight]

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What a weak ass troll. As a REAL 40k fan and have been since the 80's, I guarantee you there are black space marines lol. And no, i'm not talking about the Salamanders, their black is a different kind of black (it really is actual black, not just a shade of brown that we call black). I'm talking just generally among the population of pretty much every chapter.

Do you have a source for this? I have never seen any lore with african space marines prior to this, and i am a real 40k fan.

Jonah Orion, Blood Ravens.

Mkani Kano, Heresy-era Blood Angels.

Soukounou, Heresy-era Raven Guard (this one is interesting because he was explicitly mentioned as being recruited from the African region of Terra!!!)

Hastur Sejanus, Heresy-era Luna Wolves (as in Sons of Horus, as in the one chapter where the Space Marines actually DID become reflections of their Primarchs, and it still had a black Space Marine!)

Even if we pay attention to the Salamanders, while doubtless not all of their members are actual black people outside of the mutation they have giving them literally black skin, Vulkan has always existed in a strange place where his blackness appears to be a subject of contention among the writers, and the Salamanders DO have multiple cultural quirks and traits that have connections to African societies.

[Moonlight Knight]

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This has been addressed multiple times in this thread alone. Between that and you guys claiming to be 40k fans, you have no excuse to actually believe this anymore.

Nobody saw african space marines until after games workshop started turning woke when they supported the gerorge floyd riots that happened right after the global 3 weeks lockdown.

Tell that to Relic circa Dawn of War 2, which released in 2009.

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Do you have a source for this? I have never seen any lore with african space marines prior to this, and i am a real 40k fan.

Jonah Orion, Blood Ravens.

Mkani Kano, Heresy-era Blood Angels.

Soukounou, Heresy-era Raven Guard (this one is interesting because he was explicitly mentioned as being recruited from the African region of Terra!!!)

Hastur Sejanus, Heresy-era Luna Wolves (as in Sons of Horus, as in the one chapter where the Space Marines actually DID become reflections of their Primarchs, and it still had a black Space Marine!)

Even if we pay attention to the Salamanders, while doubtless not all of their members are actual black people outside of the mutation they have, Vulkan has always existed in a strange place where his blackness appears to be a subject of contention among the writers, and the Salamanders DO have multiple cultural quirks and traits that have connections to African societies.

all of which were added after they started going woke within the last couple of years. None of which were there when the 40k came out.

[Moonlight Knight]

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Jonah Orion, Blood Ravens.

Mkani Kano, Heresy-era Blood Angels.

Soukounou, Heresy-era Raven Guard (this one is interesting because he was explicitly mentioned as being recruited from the African region of Terra!!!)

Hastur Sejanus, Heresy-era Luna Wolves (as in Sons of Horus, as in the one chapter where the Space Marines actually DID become reflections of their Primarchs, and it still had a black Space Marine!)

Even if we pay attention to the Salamanders, while doubtless not all of their members are actual black people outside of the mutation they have, Vulkan has always existed in a strange place where his blackness appears to be a subject of contention among the writers, and the Salamanders DO have multiple cultural quirks and traits that have connections to African societies.

all of which were added after they started going woke within the last couple of years. None of which were there when the 40k came out.

Again, tell that to Relic circa the release of Dawn of War 2 in 2009.

[KnightofRoyalty]

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Jonah Orion, Blood Ravens.

Mkani Kano, Heresy-era Blood Angels.

Soukounou, Heresy-era Raven Guard (this one is interesting because he was explicitly mentioned as being recruited from the African region of Terra!!!)

Hastur Sejanus, Heresy-era Luna Wolves (as in Sons of Horus, as in the one chapter where the Space Marines actually DID become reflections of their Primarchs, and it still had a black Space Marine!)

Even if we pay attention to the Salamanders, while doubtless not all of their members are actual black people outside of the mutation they have, Vulkan has always existed in a strange place where his blackness appears to be a subject of contention among the writers, and the Salamanders DO have multiple cultural quirks and traits that have connections to African societies.

all of which were added after they started going woke within the last couple of years. None of which were there when the 40k came out.

Want some help moving that goalpost?

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Nobody saw african space marines until after games workshop started turning woke when they supported the gerorge floyd riots that happened right after the global 3 weeks lockdown.

Tell that to Relic circa Dawn of War 2, which released in 2009.

the same year that Obama became president? Around the same time that propaganda against western countries became legalized by Obama? The same time that the propaganda machines started spewing out racial propaganda in order to ensure that a "occupy wallstreet" never happened again? Gotcha.

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Aint no goalpost being moved when propaganda and forced ideologies became rampant with Obama. Do show us some lore from before that.

[KnightofRoyalty]

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Aint no goalpost being moved when propaganda and forced ideologies became rampant with Obama. Do show us some lore from before that.

"Show me the sources"

Shows sources

"No it does not count after Obama became president"

[Moonlight Knight]

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Tell that to Relic circa Dawn of War 2, which released in 2009.

the same year that Obama became president? Around the same time that propaganda against western countries became legalized by Obama? The same time that the propaganda machines started spewing out racial propaganda in order to ensure that a "occupy wallstreet" never happened again? Gotcha.

Nice job moving that goalpost. Your conspiratorial thinking is not equivalent to facts.

[Moonlight Knight]

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Aint no goalpost being moved when propaganda and forced ideologies became rampant with Obama. Do show us some lore from before that.

No, you moved the goalpost. Repeatedly. And I have no more interest in engaging with you, since you've made it clear you'll find some moony excuse to discount any proof you're offered. Have fun yelling at clouds.

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Aint no goalpost being moved when propaganda and forced ideologies became rampant with Obama. Do show us some lore from before that.

"Show me the sources"

Shows sources

"No it does not count after Obama became president"

your sources only reinforces my point. Same thing happened with every other franchise around that time.
What you fail to understand is that 40k lore predates that. And your examples are perfect examples of lore being changed for the woke folks.

[The_Dipl0mat]

So, basically nothing since 2009 is canon to this feller?

[KnightofRoyalty]

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So, basically nothing since 2009 is canon to this feller?

And every black guy in media is woke propaganda after Obama

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So, basically nothing since 2009 is canon to this feller?

Nothing that is born out of being propaganda.
Ask any star wars fan if they watched and enjoyed the movies after the 3rd one.
Ask any lord of the rings fan if they recognize the latest lotr movies as being canon.
Ask any viking fans if they consider the latest shows with african vikings to be canon.
Ask any REAL 40k fan if african space marines is a thing.
Ask any egyptian if they consider celopatra to be african.