This has to be a joke?

[TheReloader]

In all the 20 years of lore and warhammer 40k books / art, I have never seen african black space marines. Now, if I want to play this game I am being forced to play one? I know you beta male white liberals love the unending diversity equity and inclusion. But keep that ♥♥♥♥ in your bedroom. Fck the devs of this game and fck anyone who supports this nonsense. Evil cannot create it only perverts what already is.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

My brother in racism, did you see that "Avenging Son" book?

Or ever read about the Celestial Lions?

[✠ GUNNAR ✠]

Originally posted by Getherer:

you're full of crap, there is nothing in actual lore that says black people dont exist in warhammer 40k and in actual fact there are few such as Vulkan..

Chapter called The Salamanders is about black people who are knights....

There's a Jaghatai Khan who's of asian ethnicity....

There are also other black people in general as human race settles around the galaxy


Weak bait, uninformed troll and provocative no-life as usual on these forums

Don't know why people keep bringing up Salamanders when discussing this. They are NOT "black" as in some dark brown African ethnicity exclusive Chapter. They literally just have jet-black skin due to their gene-seed. Many clearly have Caucasian features.

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[Alpharius Nox]

Originally posted by LootedAirJordans:

In all the 20 years of lore and warhammer 40k books / art, I have never seen african black space marines. Now, if I want to play this game I am being forced to play one? I know you beta male white liberals love the unending diversity equity and inclusion. But keep that ♥♥♥♥ in your bedroom. ♥♥♥ the devs of this game and ♥♥♥ anyone who supports this nonsense. Evil cannot create it only perverts what already is.

Did you just happen to forget that the Salamanders are Africans?
Not all of them, but the vast majority of them, along with Vulkan.
And the Salamanders culture is based on African cultures.
Which, you'd be able to easily recognize if you knew any.
Not to mention Black Library audio dramas usually have the Salamanders speaking with different African accents.

I really wish I knew where this dumb idea of "Space Marine are ONLY WHITE" came from.
It's so pervasive and widespread, sheesh.

[Xellpnz]

Just to help out the "mah space marines cant be blacks!"

Cloning and Recruitment: Space Marines are not clones, but rather recruited from primitive worlds and undergo extensive surgery and implantation of special organs to become Astartes. This process does not guarantee a specific skin tone.
Melanchromic Organ

Phase 13: This implant controls the amount of melanin in a Marine's skin. Exposure to high levels of sunlight will result in the Marine's skin darkening to compensate. It also protects the Marine from other forms of radiation

- https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine

Lore and Artwork: Black Space Marines appear in various Warhammer 40k lore, including artwork, novels, and background materials. They are depicted as having dark skin tones, with some examples including:
Salamanders: Initially had a majority black force, but their home planet’s radiation turned them charcoal black with red eyes.
Word Bearers: Intended to have Arabic skin tone, as they were recruited from their home planet with limited racial diversity.
Thousand Sons: Described as having darker skin, being “space Egyptians”.
And a picture from one of the books just to help;
https://i.gyazo.com/bf979553ef472a9be168981697d64887.png

Geneseed and Mutation: Space Marine geneseed can influence skin tone, with some examples:
Salamanders: Pitch black due to their home planet’s radiation.
Death Spectres: Albino white due to a mutation.
Raven Guard: Pale white.
Space Sharks: Grey.
Primaris Space Marines: The Black Consuls Chapter, a Loyalist Space Marine Chapter, has Primaris Space Marines with dark skin tones.

To establish - Space Marines, can be any damn colour skin - and it REALLY doesn't matter if they are black, white, green, blue or bloody baby 80s pink.... who cares? What matters is killing the Xeno's and exterminating the heretics. nuff said.

[Alpharius Nox]

Originally posted by ✠ GUNNAR ✠:

Originally posted by Getherer:

you're full of crap, there is nothing in actual lore that says black people dont exist in warhammer 40k and in actual fact there are few such as Vulkan..

Chapter called The Salamanders is about black people who are knights....

There's a Jaghatai Khan who's of asian ethnicity....

There are also other black people in general as human race settles around the galaxy


Weak bait, uninformed troll and provocative no-life as usual on these forums

Don't know why people keep bringing up Salamanders when discussing this. They are NOT "black" as in some dark brown African ethnicity exclusive Chapter. They literally just have jet-black skin due to their gene-seed. Many clearly have Caucasian features.

https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Salamander-Portrait-1.jpg
https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Salamander-Portrait.jpg
https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Salamanders-1.jpg

Their culture is African culture.

It used to be a stereotype in early modern Europe, prior to the Industrial revolution, that Africans were great at metal working. In fact the oldest ironsmithing in the world, was most likely done in Nigeria. So there's that aspect of the Salamanders taken from African culture. I even read somewhere that Africans living in Iberia were seen as descendants of the Greek God Vulcan, because they were black from working in the forges all day, and were the best at making weapons and other things.

They practice Animism, which is an African form of spirituality.
Probably the most African thing about the Salamanders, because it's the majority of what they do as a culture. Look closely at the hides and the trinkets they wear, you'll notice, they look African, lol.

Many of them have African names, not all, but very many..

You probably don't know enough about African culture to be able to make those connections, but that's fine. They black, deal with it.

[[CULT] Siren]

There's nothing that's says space marines are strictly white ether

I fail to see your point

[MRTurnips]

Debating against racists
Do not dignify such retrograde and repulsive thoughts with an argument.

[The Gourmand]

Originally posted by Cartoffel:

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

Ultramarines own a lot of planets, and likely recruit from all of them. War has a way of making people less picky.

That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and you know it, the diverse representation only applies for popular chapters like the Ultramarines. It was previously established in the lore, that Space Marines over time turn more and more into the image of their Primarch. Which would result in blond and blue eyed Ultramarines across the board.
Funnily enough there is not a single mention of any white Salamanders member for example.
It's exclusivly pandering towards the woke soy mob and nothing else, another franchise ruined by soy faced beta cucks.

you are an idiot, salamanders aren't white, or black actually, they are like a very dark grey. they do keep their original skin tone until they go to nocturne, where the solar radiation changes their skin tone and because of their malfunctioning melanochrome implant they can't turn back once they leave

[Silhouette]

Originally posted by LootedAirJordans:

This has to be a joke?

This thread is a joke. XD

- Black Space Marines have appeared in other 40K video games.
- Black Space Marines have appeared in 40K novel covers.
- Black Space Marines have appeared in 40K comics.
- Black Space Marines have appeared in officially painted models from Games Workshop.

I'm sorry OP, but you're misguided assertions is completely incorrect. :P

[Geoff]

Originally posted by Getherer:

you're full of crap, there is nothing in actual lore that says black people dont exist in warhammer 40k and in actual fact there are few such as Vulkan..

Chapter called The Salamanders is about black people who are knights....

There's a Jaghatai Khan who's of asian ethnicity....

There are also other black people in general as human race settles around the galaxy


Weak bait, uninformed troll and provocative no-life as usual on these forums

Vulkan and the Salamanders aren't black, they have onyx/charcoal skin because of Nocturne not because they are black, and yeah there're black people in the Imperium and the White Scars have guys who have asian features.

Because the lore is based around the strong unique radiation from nocturne that interacts with the salamander gene seed and causes their skin to turn charcoal black as well as the eyes to emit a red glow.

[Alpharius Nox]

Originally posted by Geoff:

Originally posted by Getherer:

you're full of crap, there is nothing in actual lore that says black people dont exist in warhammer 40k and in actual fact there are few such as Vulkan..

Chapter called The Salamanders is about black people who are knights....

There's a Jaghatai Khan who's of asian ethnicity....

There are also other black people in general as human race settles around the galaxy


Weak bait, uninformed troll and provocative no-life as usual on these forums

Vulkan and the Salamanders aren't black, they have onyx/charcoal skin because of Nocturne not because they are black, and yeah there're black people in the Imperium and the White Scars are asian.

Because the lore is based around the strong unique radiation from nocturne that interacts with the salamander gene seed and causes their skin to turn charcoal black as well as the eyes to emit a red glow.

Like how Ultramarines are based on Greco/Roman cultures.
Salamanders are based on Nilotic/Saharan/Sahel cultures.
Vulkan very closely resembles the Yoruba god "Ogun", the god of warrior/blacksmiths.
And of course, the Greek god, Vulcan.
I honestly see Salamanders as a mix of African/Greek cultures.
Since they show affinity towards both.
As I said before though, most Europeans have very little knowledge of African cultures, so it's only normal that someone would say, "There's nothing African about them!", lol.
Not sure if I wrote it in this thread, but Salamanders practice the African variety of Animism.

There are certainly plenty of Africans in the Salamanders, you just have to pay attention.

[Edge Of Sanity]

Originally posted by Chapter Master Tarik:

Originally posted by Geoff:

Vulkan and the Salamanders aren't black, they have onyx/charcoal skin because of Nocturne not because they are black, and yeah there're black people in the Imperium and the White Scars are asian.

Because the lore is based around the strong unique radiation from nocturne that interacts with the salamander gene seed and causes their skin to turn charcoal black as well as the eyes to emit a red glow.

Like how Ultramarines are based on Greco/Roman cultures.
Salamanders are based on Nilotic/Saharan/Sahel cultures.
Vulkan very closely resembles the Yoruba god "Ogun", the god of warrior/blacksmiths.
And of course, the Greek god, Vulcan.
I honestly see Salamanders as a mix of African/Greek cultures.
Since they show affinity towards both.
As I said before though, most Europeans have very little knowledge of African cultures, so it's only normal that someone would say, "There's nothing African about them!", lol.
Not sure if I wrote it in this thread, but Salamanders practice the African variety of Animism.

There are certainly plenty of Africans in the Salamanders, you just have to pay attention.

Very weak substitution of concepts from you. The topic was right about antroplogy and basic biological features. Noone was arguing where GW take cultural allusions and features from.

By your twisted logic Salamanders = black just cause of cultural references. Then african ultramarine is caucasian.

Try again.

[HiRed_ThuG]

You would have thought that books like "Avenging Son" would have ended this ridiculous argument but some people are just....

In any case why does it matter? Actually, we know why it matters...

[diji]

Originally posted by Lord Lunar:

Originally posted by Chapter Master Tarik:

Like how Ultramarines are based on Greco/Roman cultures.
Salamanders are based on Nilotic/Saharan/Sahel cultures.
Vulkan very closely resembles the Yoruba god "Ogun", the god of warrior/blacksmiths.
And of course, the Greek god, Vulcan.
I honestly see Salamanders as a mix of African/Greek cultures.
Since they show affinity towards both.
As I said before though, most Europeans have very little knowledge of African cultures, so it's only normal that someone would say, "There's nothing African about them!", lol.
Not sure if I wrote it in this thread, but Salamanders practice the African variety of Animism.

There are certainly plenty of Africans in the Salamanders, you just have to pay attention.

Very weak substitution of concepts from you. The topic was right about antroplogy and basic biological features. Noone was arguing where GW take cultural allusions and fetures from.

By your twisted logic Salamnders = black just cause of cultural references. Then african ultramarine is caucasian.

Try again.

Consider the following:

They're all plastic toys

[Alpharius Nox]

Originally posted by Lord Lunar:

blah blah blah

*sigh*
Good thing I have this post on bookmark:

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