Chaos Space Marine classes being legion locked

[Eidrog]

So it looks like Chaos Space marines classes are locked to specific legions:

Example:
Vanguard: World Eaters
Sniper: Alpha Legion
Bulwark: Death Guard
Assault: Night Lords

You'll be able to change colors and emblems. . . but you wont, for example, be able to play an assault marine with a Khorne Berserker helmet.

I don't like this direction. Obviously this was done to reduce the scope and work. It's difficult to make every piece of armor compatible with every class. Like a Khorne Berserker helmet could potentially clip into a jump pack or something. . . and the developers have done this to make it easier on themselves. . . And to a certain point I get it, the game is already humongously huge, so they need to optimise their development if they want to ever get this game launched. . . But I really don't like limiting player customization as a solution. Hopefully they can fix this limitation in a future update.

[Warpsmith_GREW50ME]

Originally posted by Eightball:

Originally posted by Nuke2099:

There is no Emperors Children legion unlock in the game so no icon.





Iron Warriors are tied to the Heavy.

Edit: Or if Iron Warriors aren't in it will be Black Legion for Heavy.

Surely not. The only thing Iron Warriors have going is that they have Hazard Stripes. They have no unique model features whatsoever. Khorne does, Plague Marines do, Thousand Sons do, but Iron Warriors, no, it's literally just painted hazard stripes on generic chaos marines. And black legion are about as generic as it gets, so yeah, if they are locking classes behind certain models, I doubt either of these are going to be it because they have literally 0 defining features other than their colour, which is able to be changed.

That's not really true. Iron Warriors tend to have a geneseed that makes them shorter in stature than other legions, but it is also the most stable. That is why they often got into trouble for sacrificing more troops than other legions before the HH.

They also prefer older types of armor, often MK III or VI. They'll often, but not always, have less Chaos iconography than other legions.

[UnDucky]

Hopefully they will allow the LGBT flag colors for your marines, I dont think I would be able to play this game long term if I cant be indoctrinated by my false idols and symbolism

[First Mate]

That is a damn shame, I would have also liked heretic legion squad in the campaign too. You might need to do some additional voice acting and character designs but everything else could pretty much remain the same.

[Eightball]

Originally posted by GREW50ME:

Originally posted by Eightball:

Surely not. The only thing Iron Warriors have going is that they have Hazard Stripes. They have no unique model features whatsoever. Khorne does, Plague Marines do, Thousand Sons do, but Iron Warriors, no, it's literally just painted hazard stripes on generic chaos marines. And black legion are about as generic as it gets, so yeah, if they are locking classes behind certain models, I doubt either of these are going to be it because they have literally 0 defining features other than their colour, which is able to be changed.

That's not really true. Iron Warriors tend to have a geneseed that makes them shorter in stature than other legions, but it is also the most stable. That is why they often got into trouble for sacrificing more troops than other legions before the HH.

They also prefer older types of armor, often MK III or VI. They'll often, but not always, have less Chaos iconography than other legions.

Preferring an older type of armour is not a unique trait. Plenty chapters still run around with beakies for example, liking an older armour isn't unique. Plenty chapters use older armour. And you say they are a little shorter, but that is not in any way whatsoever represented in tabletop or in any miniatures. The only thing that makes them stand out at all is the hazard stripes on silver armour, it's just a colour choice.

[Eightball]

Originally posted by Someone:

Originally posted by Eightball:

There are plenty traitor Primaris marines in lore. No models yet on tabletop, but they definitely exist in lore.

So are the tabletop chaos marines only as big as firstborns?

A bit bigger due to chaos corruption bulking them out a bit, but smaller than primaris normally. All the chaos miniatures atm are based on First Born but scaled up a little bit to be slightly larger, mainly as GW don't like that scale anymore and are trying to get rid of it, but the lore reason for it making sense was chaos corruption generally bulking them out.

[Blacklion]

Nothing can beat the Heresy drip..

[Warpsmith_GREW50ME]

Originally posted by Eightball:

Originally posted by GREW50ME:

That's not really true. Iron Warriors tend to have a geneseed that makes them shorter in stature than other legions, but it is also the most stable. That is why they often got into trouble for sacrificing more troops than other legions before the HH.

They also prefer older types of armor, often MK III or VI. They'll often, but not always, have less Chaos iconography than other legions.

Preferring an older type of armour is not a unique trait. Plenty chapters still run around with beakies for example, liking an older armour isn't unique. Plenty chapters use older armour. And you say they are a little shorter, but that is not in any way whatsoever represented in tabletop or in any miniatures. The only thing that makes them stand out at all is the hazard stripes on silver armour, it's just a colour choice.

It can be represented on the tabletop, though. You can make Iron Warriors from the Legiones Astartes Battle Group 30k Box.

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agreed, hope this gets changed later on

[Dradis]

Super disappointing that CSM are not customisable and would really like this to change.

[Mjr.Death]

Weird that two games have done this recently now. Tripwire deciding killing floor 3 specializations will be linked to characters being the other.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Mjr.Death:

Weird that two games have done this recently now. Tripwire deciding killing floor 3 specializations will be linked to characters being the other.

First I heard about this but that's kind of cool. For traitors it's just cosmetic, same class loud outs so it's not really the same. The way Tripwire is doing it is more akin to the way hero shooters are designed, not class shooters from what I just saw.