Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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Eidrog Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:39pm
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Chaos Space Marine classes being legion locked
So it looks like Chaos Space marines classes are locked to specific legions:

Example:
Vanguard: World Eaters
Sniper: Alpha Legion
Bulwark: Death Guard
Assault: Night Lords

You'll be able to change colors and emblems. . . but you wont, for example, be able to play an assault marine with a Khorne Berserker helmet.

I don't like this direction. Obviously this was done to reduce the scope and work. It's difficult to make every piece of armor compatible with every class. Like a Khorne Berserker helmet could potentially clip into a jump pack or something. . . and the developers have done this to make it easier on themselves. . . And to a certain point I get it, the game is already humongously huge, so they need to optimise their development if they want to ever get this game launched. . . But I really don't like limiting player customization as a solution. Hopefully they can fix this limitation in a future update.
Last edited by Eidrog; Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:05pm
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Someone Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:54pm 
So, no Iron Warriors or Emperor's Children? That really sucks, I thought I could at least paint a generic one purple
Eidrog Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:03pm 
It sounds like you'll be able to paint a Nightlord pink and black, and maybe put an Emperor's Children emblem on his pauldron. . . But the model itself will still look like a Night Lord (skull helmet with bat wings).

Hopefully each class has a 'generic' helmet option. . . so that way we can sorta do plausible versions of other Chaos Marine legions for each class. But even then we wont, for example, be able to have an assault marine with the Khorne Berserker specific helmet, since the Khorne Berserker helmet is locked to the Vanguard class.
Last edited by Eidrog; Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:04pm
Banebladerunner Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Someone:
So, no Iron Warriors or Emperor's Children? That really sucks, I thought I could at least paint a generic one purple
well loyalists also missing some notable chapters like silver skulls but dont forget that they will support this game probably for years
Nuke2099 Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Eidrog:
It sounds like you'll be able to paint a Nightlord pink and black, and maybe put an Emperor's Children emblem on his pauldron. . . But the model itself will still look like a Night Lord (skull helmet with bat wings).

Hopefully each class has a 'generic' helmet option. . . so that way we can sorta do plausible versions of other Chaos Marine legions for each class. But even then we wont, for example, be able to have an assault marine with the Khorne Berserker specific helmetm since the Khorne Berserker helmet is locked to the Vanguard class.

There is no Emperors Children legion unlock in the game so no icon.



Originally posted by Someone:
So, no Iron Warriors or Emperor's Children? That really sucks, I thought I could at least paint a generic one purple

Iron Warriors are tied to the Heavy.

Edit: Or if Iron Warriors aren't in it will be Black Legion for Heavy.
Last edited by Nuke2099; Aug 23, 2024 @ 2:27pm
Eidrog Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:13pm 
I'm sure they'll at least have the Emperor's Children legion symbol as an option. It would be weird not to Include a First Founding chapter in the base game.

But, I suppose we wont know for sure either way until the game launches.
Aeonid Thiel Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:17pm 
This is a Helldivers level F up! I want to play World Eaters Assault....but he's gonna have Night Lords bits on him???? Why would you do this! I want to play as Iron Warrior Bulwark....but he's going to look like the Death Guard :steamfacepalm: lame as F$#K
Iratus Machina Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Nuke2099:
Iron Warriors are tied to the Heavy.

Should have been an Emperor's Children Noise Marine. Already a notable unit similar to the heavy last I checked.
Last edited by Iratus Machina; Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:30pm
Angarvin Aug 23, 2024 @ 9:55pm 
i'd think they are cautious about pvp since they were burnt by it in wwz.

wwz's pvp died instantly - there was simply no interest from the audience. if the same thing happens to sm2 then there is no reason to pour dev time into it.
i think if sm2's pvp will prove to have legs, saber will expand on the chaos stuff.
Nightmarian Aug 23, 2024 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by Eidrog:
So it looks like Chaos Space marines classes are locked to specific legions:

Example:
Vanguard: World Eaters
Sniper: Alpha Legion
Bulwark: Death Guard
Assault: Night Lords

You'll be able to change colors and emblems. . . but you wont, for example, be able to play an assault marine with a Khorne Berserker helmet.

I don't like this direction. Obviously this was done to reduce the scope and work. It's difficult to make every piece of armor compatible with every class. Like a Khorne Berserker helmet could potentially clip into a jump pack or something. . . and the developers have done this to make it easier on themselves. . . And to a certain point I get it, the game is already humongously huge, so they need to optimise their development if they want to ever get this game launched. . . But I really don't like limiting player customization as a solution. Hopefully they can fix this limitation in a future update.

Real question is why you'd even want to play a chaos marine. If you must play a golden boi, at least play one who doesn't cut themselves in front of a mirror while thinking their mullet makes them dark and mysterious.
PrettyBoy. Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Eidrog:
So it looks like Chaos Space marines classes are locked to specific legions:

Example:
Vanguard: World Eaters
Sniper: Alpha Legion
Bulwark: Death Guard
Assault: Night Lords

You'll be able to change colors and emblems. . . but you wont, for example, be able to play an assault marine with a Khorne Berserker helmet.

I don't like this direction. Obviously this was done to reduce the scope and work. It's difficult to make every piece of armor compatible with every class. Like a Khorne Berserker helmet could potentially clip into a jump pack or something. . . and the developers have done this to make it easier on themselves. . . And to a certain point I get it, the game is already humongously huge, so they need to optimise their development if they want to ever get this game launched. . . But I really don't like limiting player customization as a solution. Hopefully they can fix this limitation in a future update.

We literally only got a glimpse in a trailer. Your whole post is based on assumptions lol. Instead of waiting till release you make up some random ass post.
Nightmarian Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:56pm 
Originally posted by PrettyBoy.:
Originally posted by Eidrog:
So it looks like Chaos Space marines classes are locked to specific legions:

Example:
Vanguard: World Eaters
Sniper: Alpha Legion
Bulwark: Death Guard
Assault: Night Lords

You'll be able to change colors and emblems. . . but you wont, for example, be able to play an assault marine with a Khorne Berserker helmet.

I don't like this direction. Obviously this was done to reduce the scope and work. It's difficult to make every piece of armor compatible with every class. Like a Khorne Berserker helmet could potentially clip into a jump pack or something. . . and the developers have done this to make it easier on themselves. . . And to a certain point I get it, the game is already humongously huge, so they need to optimise their development if they want to ever get this game launched. . . But I really don't like limiting player customization as a solution. Hopefully they can fix this limitation in a future update.

We literally only got a glimpse in a trailer. Your whole post is based on assumptions lol. Instead of waiting till release you make up some random ass post.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllll....... let's just say leaks exist.
Angarvin Aug 24, 2024 @ 12:11am 
Originally posted by PrettyBoy.:
We literally only got a glimpse in a trailer. Your whole post is based on assumptions lol. Instead of waiting till release you make up some random ass post.
it's in the official news.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4238536974129469039?l=english
Heretic Astartes characters can also be customised for your PvP matches! Each class corresponds to a specific Traitor Legion (for example, Assault will always be represented by a Night Lords Raptor), but you can change the colours and apply different emblems.
Last edited by Angarvin; Aug 24, 2024 @ 12:11am
fuji699 Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:53am 
Yeah it makes sense for the developers to cut chaos customization options to meet their deadline. but the class lock system seems really harsh. hopefully this is just an announcement to avoid saying the truth which is that they ran out of time for chaos customization. I'm hoping they "listen" to the backlash and remove the legion locks in a future update when they actually have time to work on the season passs
Flagg Aug 24, 2024 @ 5:27am 
LOLOLOLOL. Of course you can be other chaos legions..... FOR A PRICE. JUST WAIT AND SEE.... You all still don't understand how this works. /sigh
Eightball Aug 24, 2024 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by Nuke2099:
Originally posted by Eidrog:
It sounds like you'll be able to paint a Nightlord pink and black, and maybe put an Emperor's Children emblem on his pauldron. . . But the model itself will still look like a Night Lord (skull helmet with bat wings).

Hopefully each class has a 'generic' helmet option. . . so that way we can sorta do plausible versions of other Chaos Marine legions for each class. But even then we wont, for example, be able to have an assault marine with the Khorne Berserker specific helmetm since the Khorne Berserker helmet is locked to the Vanguard class.

There is no Emperors Children legion unlock in the game so no icon.



Originally posted by Someone:
So, no Iron Warriors or Emperor's Children? That really sucks, I thought I could at least paint a generic one purple

Iron Warriors are tied to the Heavy.

Edit: Or if Iron Warriors aren't in it will be Black Legion for Heavy.

Surely not. The only thing Iron Warriors have going is that they have Hazard Stripes. They have no unique model features whatsoever. Khorne does, Plague Marines do, Thousand Sons do, but Iron Warriors, no, it's literally just painted hazard stripes on generic chaos marines. And black legion are about as generic as it gets, so yeah, if they are locking classes behind certain models, I doubt either of these are going to be it because they have literally 0 defining features other than their colour, which is able to be changed.
Last edited by Eightball; Aug 24, 2024 @ 6:05am
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