Kinda sad of variety of this game...

[prostoe_bydlo]

Well after watched last trailer I'm more convinced that this is WWZ in W40k skin.
Don't get me wrong I like all action shown in trailers but literally they replaced zombies with tyranids, I'll laugh hard if there will be same players disable mobs who pin down players until someone will save you (hound pinning down ogryn in darktide is absolute trash meme). It will be just ... ugh... moronic.
Other thing main faction tyranids, kinda I want at least 2-3 factions, at least chaos (non pvp) and tyranids depend of map/scenario. Orcs are meme, but still those will be okay too. And necrons, oh Lord, someone add friggin' necrons already! Only one faction gonna boring very fast, like in darktide where practically topkek difficulty have some value, but in fact you fight same crap over, over, over again like a zombie.
I still want try this game but I doubt I will able to test it for 2 free hours.
p.s. good thing this is same engine as wwz, its performance should not require rtx over 9000.

[Rasg0s]

I made a post saying the exact same thing. I only see alien bugs in the trailers, kinda boring

[Sovereign]

I would love to see Necrons as they're easily the best 40k faction by a wide margin (I'm very biased). But it's kinda hard to cram too many factions in to the plot while still having their presence make sense.

SM2 has both Tyranids and Chaos, both those factions have more then enough miniatures between them for the devs to base enemy types on. Maybe they will add a third faction later as DLC like Orks or Necrons, but 2 factions will hopefully be enough for now.

[prostoe_bydlo]

But chaos is pvp-only, I don't see a normal pve/campaign with choas as full faction not as cameo. Did I miss something?

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by prostoe_bydlo:

But chaos is pvp-only, I don't see a normal pve/campaign with choas as full faction not as cameo. Did I miss something?

From what I saw from the Trailers, I wouldn´t be to surprised that the Thousand Sons are either the secondary Enemy or (much like SM 1) the hidden Mastermind behind the Invasion.

The latter would be boring since the "It was Chaos all along!" trope is kinda eh.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by prostoe_bydlo:

But chaos is pvp-only, I don't see a normal pve/campaign with choas as full faction not as cameo. Did I miss something?

Yes Chaos are a full faction in the Campaign and PVE modes and have appeared in both trailers and promotional screenshots. It's specifically the Thousand Sons legion that worship Tzeentch.

They appear a few times in this trailer for example. Go to 3:54 for good look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqDxvpzsKM&ab_channel=FocusEntertainment

And here are the same screenshots I posted in Rasg0s' thread on the same subject:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Lr0xSb4FBA4ZinwrZgCEjYHpji0=/0x0:1500x844/1200x800/filters:focal(630x302:870x542)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/72657866/NLECUQz.0.png

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IFH96StE1a4e2qLrzZSHYq6o3mc=/0x0:1500x844/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1500x844):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24921375/0DVh8Ue.png

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhelbrute-screenshot-from-space-marine-2-v0-henka1lf7x6c1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9aeeac98e1eabc87194e8fdd82833d555acf37aa

[Geoff]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Originally posted by prostoe_bydlo:

But chaos is pvp-only, I don't see a normal pve/campaign with choas as full faction not as cameo. Did I miss something?

Yes Chaos are a full faction in the Campaign and PVE modes and have appeared in both trailers and promotional screenshots. It's specifically the Thousand Sons legion that worship Tzeentch.

They appear a few times in this trailer for example. Go to 3:54 for good look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqDxvpzsKM&ab_channel=FocusEntertainment

And here are the same screenshots I posted in Rasg0s' thread on the same subject:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Lr0xSb4FBA4ZinwrZgCEjYHpji0=/0x0:1500x844/1200x800/filters:focal(630x302:870x542)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/72657866/NLECUQz.0.png

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IFH96StE1a4e2qLrzZSHYq6o3mc=/0x0:1500x844/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1500x844):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24921375/0DVh8Ue.png

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhelbrute-screenshot-from-space-marine-2-v0-henka1lf7x6c1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9aeeac98e1eabc87194e8fdd82833d555acf37aa

Since those are the Thousand Sons Legion, you think there will be others?

[Abyssus_j]

Astartes, guns, dead xenos, what more do you need?

[Nuke2099]

Originally posted by Geoff:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Yes Chaos are a full faction in the Campaign and PVE modes and have appeared in both trailers and promotional screenshots. It's specifically the Thousand Sons legion that worship Tzeentch.

They appear a few times in this trailer for example. Go to 3:54 for good look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqDxvpzsKM&ab_channel=FocusEntertainment

And here are the same screenshots I posted in Rasg0s' thread on the same subject:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Lr0xSb4FBA4ZinwrZgCEjYHpji0=/0x0:1500x844/1200x800/filters:focal(630x302:870x542)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/72657866/NLECUQz.0.png

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IFH96StE1a4e2qLrzZSHYq6o3mc=/0x0:1500x844/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1500x844):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24921375/0DVh8Ue.png

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhelbrute-screenshot-from-space-marine-2-v0-henka1lf7x6c1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9aeeac98e1eabc87194e8fdd82833d555acf37aa

Since those are the Thousand Sons Legion, you think there will be others?

No. At least not in the main story.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Geoff:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Yes Chaos are a full faction in the Campaign and PVE modes and have appeared in both trailers and promotional screenshots. It's specifically the Thousand Sons legion that worship Tzeentch.

They appear a few times in this trailer for example. Go to 3:54 for good look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqDxvpzsKM&ab_channel=FocusEntertainment

And here are the same screenshots I posted in Rasg0s' thread on the same subject:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Lr0xSb4FBA4ZinwrZgCEjYHpji0=/0x0:1500x844/1200x800/filters:focal(630x302:870x542)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/72657866/NLECUQz.0.png

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IFH96StE1a4e2qLrzZSHYq6o3mc=/0x0:1500x844/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1500x844):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24921375/0DVh8Ue.png

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhelbrute-screenshot-from-space-marine-2-v0-henka1lf7x6c1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9aeeac98e1eabc87194e8fdd82833d555acf37aa

Since those are the Thousand Sons Legion, you think there will be others?

I agree with Nuke2099, it's very unlikely we'll see any other Chaos legions outside of PvP cosmetics.

My theory is that the Thousand Sons presence will tie in with Titus' personal story. In the first game and the extended lore it was a major plot point that he has an unnatural resistance to Warp energy and Chaos sorcery that he himself can't explain but is trying to learn the truth of. The Thousand Sons are the personal legion of Tzeentch, the Chaos god of sorcery and arcane knowledge. Probably not a coincidence.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I agree with Nuke2099, it's very unlikely we'll see any other Chaos legions outside of PvP cosmetics.

My theory is that the Thousand Sons presence will tie in with Titus' personal story. In the first game and the extended lore it was a major plot point that he has an unnatural resistance to Warp energy and Chaos sorcery that he himself can't explain but is trying to learn the truth of. The Thousand Sons are the personal legion of Tzeentch, the Chaos god of sorcery and arcane knowledge. Probably not a coincidence.

Maybe they seek to either use his "resistance" as a tool for their own gains or they try to recruit him into their own ranks much like Nemeroth tried before.

Speaking of Nemeroth:
Maybe he was able to return despite only being halfway ascended to a Daemon Prince before his "death".

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Chaoslord 87:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I agree with Nuke2099, it's very unlikely we'll see any other Chaos legions outside of PvP cosmetics.

My theory is that the Thousand Sons presence will tie in with Titus' personal story. In the first game and the extended lore it was a major plot point that he has an unnatural resistance to Warp energy and Chaos sorcery that he himself can't explain but is trying to learn the truth of. The Thousand Sons are the personal legion of Tzeentch, the Chaos god of sorcery and arcane knowledge. Probably not a coincidence.

Maybe they seek to either use his "resistance" as a tool for their own gains or they try to recruit him into their own ranks much like Nemeroth tried before.

Speaking of Nemeroth:
Maybe he was able to return despite only being halfway ascended to a Daemon Prince before his "death".

Well Chaos space marines can be "respawned" by their gods in very special cases so it's very possible he could still be around demon or not. In his boss fight he even says to Titus that he would rise again even if it took centuries, he even laughs as he "dies" and can still be heard taunting Titus in his head afterwards.

While Nemeroth's forces in the first game were just normal Chaos Undivided troops, he himself was a sorcerer lord. So if he was resurrected by the gods, I could easily see him being "reassigned" to the Thousand Sons.

Sorta like what happened to Eliphas the Inheritor from the Dawn of War series. He was originally a lord in the Word Bearers Legion, died, then was later resurrected and placed in the Black Legion under Abaddon's command. So stuff like that can happen.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Well Chaos space marines can be "respawned" by their gods in very special cases so it's very possible he could still be around demon or not. In his boss fight he even says to Titus that he would rise again even if it took centuries, he even laughs as he "dies" and can still be heard taunting Titus in his head afterwards.

While Nemeroth's forces in the first game were just normal Chaos Undivided troops, he himself was a sorcerer lord. So if he was resurrected by the gods, I could easily see him being "reassigned" to the Thousand Sons.

Sorta like what happened to Eliphas the Inheritor from the Dawn of War series. He was originally a lord in the Word Bearers Legion, died, then was later resurrected and placed in the Black Legion under Abaddon's command. So stuff like that can happen.

Ah yes, Eliphas. Dawn of Wars very own Starscream.
That magnificent smug and bigmouth douchebag, who simply don´t wanna stay dead.

"I shall not be stopped! Again and again I shall rise as I always have!"

[Goonlord Supreme]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

I made a post saying the exact same thing. I only see alien bugs in the trailers, kinda boring

There’s literally Thousandsons and Tzeentch cultists in the trailer 🙄🙄

[Goonlord Supreme]

Are you blind? There’s Tzeentch army in the trailer lol

[Goonlord Supreme]

Damnn are you watch the same trailers with us? There’s actually 5 or more factions in the campaign
1 Astartes:Ultramarines,Deathwatch
2 Adeptus Mechanicus
3 Tyranids :Termagaunts,Hermagaunts,Carnifexes,Hive tyrant,Gargoyles.
4 Chaos :Tzeentch army(THEY ARE IN THE TRAILER YOU ARE JUST BLIND OR YOU JUST DID NOT CARE THE DETAILS ) Thousand sons ,Tzeentch cultist,Tzaangors,Heldrakes,Helbrutes.
5 Astra Militarum