Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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m0z4rt Jun 26, 2024 @ 4:29pm
As someone completely new to Warhammer, this game has me excited
Ive never been introduced to the World of Warhammer. Ive seen memes and ive started to figure out small things about the lore, but my knowledge is still close to zero about WH.

Still, this game's gameplay trailer had me hyped, and im not easy to get hyped at all.

My question is, should i play the first game? Is it necessary? Its a bit old tho. If so, does it run well on the Deck?

Or alternatively, what sort of content should i look for as i wait for Space Marine 2 to come out?
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The_Dipl0mat Jun 26, 2024 @ 6:36pm 
I'd highly recommend the first game, but wait until sale. Its pretty fun, but slightly clunky. And it's very much not worth $60 as it is right now

I'm unsure how well it plays on the deck, but I can imagine it's pretty decent.


If you want more in the Warhammer universe, there's a handful of quality games. Dawn of War 1 and 2 are regarded as being way up there. Don't do 3 unless you want more of a competitive game scene deal. Its vastly different from the other two. Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 is also pretty enjoyable. I've heard Darktide has gotten much better since launch, but it's a bit grindy and best with friends. But, if you have friends and a decent PC I'd recommend Space Hulk: Deathwing for a chaotic experience of murdering genestealers as heavily armored terminators. Mechanicus is also pretty fun, with a banger of a soundtrack to boot
Moonlight Knight Jun 26, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:
I'd highly recommend the first game, but wait until sale. Its pretty fun, but slightly clunky. And it's very much not worth $60 as it is right now

I'm unsure how well it plays on the deck, but I can imagine it's pretty decent.


If you want more in the Warhammer universe, there's a handful of quality games. Dawn of War 1 and 2 are regarded as being way up there. Don't do 3 unless you want more of a competitive game scene deal. Its vastly different from the other two. Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 is also pretty enjoyable. I've heard Darktide has gotten much better since launch, but it's a bit grindy and best with friends. But, if you have friends and a decent PC I'd recommend Space Hulk: Deathwing for a chaotic experience of murdering genestealers as heavily armored terminators. Mechanicus is also pretty fun, with a banger of a soundtrack to boot
Don't forget Rogue Trader, at least if you enjoy a CRPG.
The_Dipl0mat Jun 26, 2024 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Don't forget Rogue Trader, at least if you enjoy a CRPG.
Oh yeah! Forgot about that one. That's also quite good from what I've heard
FilthAutomaton Jun 26, 2024 @ 7:11pm 
play darktide it's the best one based on 40k
Abyssus_j Jun 26, 2024 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by m0z4rt:
my knowledge is still close to zero about WH.

Few things to know about WH. First, its released in 1983 and has been around for 41 years.
In that time its creative influence can be seen in many other media, such as Event Horizon to Starship Troopers.

But while it may feel familiar, there are a lot of details specific to the WH franchise that make it unique and worth diving into.

So how to get into it? There are a lot of different ways to get into WH.
* Video Games (WH Inquisitor is an easy entry point)
* Animated Series (Hit youtube up for examples of; Pariah Nexus, Iron Within, Broken Lance)
* Audio Dramas ( Angels of Darkness and Blood - Free extract audio sample [www.blacklibrary.com])
* Books ( Nexus and Other Stories - Free extract audio sample [www.blacklibrary.com])

Take your pick. There's a lot to digest, but then again, it is a world of endless war and chaos, so feeling overwhelmed is true to the whole world experience.

Enjoy.
The_Dipl0mat Jun 26, 2024 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Abyssus_j:
Originally posted by m0z4rt:
my knowledge is still close to zero about WH.

Few things to know about WH. First, its released in 1983 and has been around for 41 years.
In that time its creative influence can be seen in many other media, such as Event Horizon to Starship Troopers.

But while it may feel familiar, there are a lot of details specific to the WH franchise that make it unique and worth diving into.

So how to get into it? There are a lot of different ways to get into WH.
* Video Games (WH Inquisitor is an easy entry point)
* Animated Series (Hit youtube up for examples of; Pariah Nexus, Iron Within, Broken Lance)
* Audio Dramas ( Angels of Darkness and Blood - Free extract audio sample [www.blacklibrary.com])
* Books ( Nexus and Other Stories - Free extract audio sample [www.blacklibrary.com])

Take your pick. There's a lot to digest, but then again, it is a world of endless war and chaos, so feeling overwhelmed is true to the whole world experience.

Enjoy.

An additional thing thats beginner friendly is Adeptus Ridiculous I'd say. It's a podcast where they teach people about various 40k topics be it factions, specific characters, vehicles, and they even go over specific books.
m0z4rt Jun 27, 2024 @ 3:08am 
Thx guys for all the replies

Thats a lot of games, Darktide, Dawn of war, WH inquisitor... Im more of a shooter fan which is why i proposed Space marine 1.

Darktide looks dope asf graphically speaking, but it has neutral reviews on Steam, and usually thats a bit no-no. Can i get a second opinion on Darktide?

Space Hulk: Deathwing looks fun, but it has almost no one online, and the guy who recomended it here almost made believe its Multiplayer...
astgdzfgdsg Jun 27, 2024 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by m0z4rt:
Thx guys for all the replies

Thats a lot of games, Darktide, Dawn of war, WH inquisitor... Im more of a shooter fan which is why i proposed Space marine 1.

Darktide looks dope asf graphically speaking, but it has neutral reviews on Steam, and usually thats a bit no-no. Can i get a second opinion on Darktide?

Space Hulk: Deathwing looks fun, but it has almost no one online, and the guy who recomended it here almost made believe its Multiplayer...

I have a 1000+ hours in darktide. It had a rough launch and the developer has a glacially slow development speed, but once they finish improving the game I have no doubt it will be the best coop horde shooter ever made. On pure gameplay feel it's just very hard to beat, Fatshark have been refining their formula for a decade.
Last edited by astgdzfgdsg; Jun 27, 2024 @ 4:15am
RasaNova Jun 27, 2024 @ 6:32am 
I would suggest starting with the 2nd Dawn of War game. (Not DoW2, but Dark Crusade.) Aside from being one of the best WH40K games out there, it's an excellent primer for all the factions.
zastcat Jun 27, 2024 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by m0z4rt:
Thx guys for all the replies

Thats a lot of games, Darktide, Dawn of war, WH inquisitor... Im more of a shooter fan which is why i proposed Space marine 1.

40k has a surprising lack of shooters, logically it should be drowning in them but in practice it kinda just has a handful, fire warrior exists but you need to run it on gog and it had flawed mechanics and design even when it was new and even some newer cases like space hulk fell slightly short of what they could have been

Darktide looks dope asf graphically speaking, but it has neutral reviews on Steam, and usually thats a bit no-no. Can i get a second opinion on Darktide?

darktide is fun but they failed to meet a ton of the things they were hyping themselves up to be, the crafting system is a sore point with the playerbase even all this time later and their promised rework to fix some of the issues got delayed with no official word on what it even is for people to give input despite them saying it's based on player feedback

updates are spaced apart by months at a time minimum and often fairly minimal in what they give (there's weapons that were in the launch trailer and datamined at launch that people were chomping at the bit for that they still haven't hinted at finally adding) and sadly the mots consistent thing that does get updated is their in-game cosmetics shop

it's good, I get back into it on occasion, but fatshark has a pattern with the tide games where it falls flat for a few years before it gets really good and darktide is currently not on the "good" side, worse yet it's the 1st that's actually designed as a live service game and that shows

Space Hulk: Deathwing looks fun, but it has almost no one online, and the guy who recomended it here almost made believe its Multiplayer...

it has a slightly short single player campaign then online play is class based randomly generated scenarios using the same maps
astgdzfgdsg Jun 27, 2024 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by zastcat:
with no official word on what it even is for people to give input despite them saying it's based on player feedback

They put out a blog on what it is to collect input yesterday. Seems to remove all blessing and perk randomness, removes all locks, and introduces a track to get weapon skins for using a weapon a lot. Kinda hard to tell what it will feel like in practice but I guess we shall see at the end of summer.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introduction-to-the-itemization-rework-dev-blog/96314
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Abyssus_j Jun 27, 2024 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:
An additional thing thats beginner friendly is Adeptus Ridiculous I'd say. It's a podcast where they teach people about various 40k topics be it factions, specific characters, vehicles, and they even go over specific books.

Adeptus Ridiculous YT

Thanks for this, hadn't heard of this community project. Its well done. Added it to my Audiable podcasts and YT subs.

Originally posted by zastcat:
darktide is fun but they failed to meet a ton of the things they were hyping themselves up to be,

Darktide is great if you're after a FPS hoard clearing co-op game, its made by Fatshark and gets updated regularly. Vermintide received similar criticisms on launch, but has been constantly updated and is generally regarded as a top tier production. Darktide is on track for the same treatment.

Darktide inhabits a pretty niche part of the Warhammer fiction, you don't get much exposure to the lore outside of conscription and Nurgles meat shields. So not a great intro to the lore if thats what the OP is after.
Last edited by Abyssus_j; Jun 27, 2024 @ 8:08am
zastcat Jun 27, 2024 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by derpherpitucus:
Originally posted by zastcat:
with no official word on what it even is for people to give input despite them saying it's based on player feedback

They put out a blog on what it is to collect input yesterday. Seems to remove all blessing and perk randomness, removes all locks, and introduces a track to get weapon skins for using a weapon a lot. Kinda hard to tell what it will feel like in practice but I guess we shall see at the end of summer.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introduction-to-the-itemization-rework-dev-blog/96314

oh man I didn't see that at all, thanks for pointing it out

still not the full on weapon customization they were talking about before launch but a big step in the direction of dealing with problems if they go through with it

Originally posted by Abyssus_j:
Darktide is great if you're after a FPS hoard clearing co-op game, its made by Fatshark and gets updated regularly. Vermintide received similar criticisms on launch, but has been constantly updated and is generally regarded as a top tier production. Darktide is on track for the same treatment.

I don't say what I did earlier as some sort of "you shouldn't play it", I like darktide, but even as much as I like it and go back to playing it occasionally I can't ignore that there are plenty of things they just haven't addressed still, heck something as simple as solo play with bots that was promised on launch then promised again "a few months after release" still isn't there and evidently got sidelined entirely with the only indication being an offhand comment in their forums on a different topic

fatshark makes good games given time and effort, and I genuinely believe darktide can be among those games, but it's absolutely still in that phase all the tide games have had where it's playable and somewhat fun but hasn't truly hit its stride yet
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The Western Dawn Jun 27, 2024 @ 8:03am 
This franchise is a symbol of ''wokeness'' and disgusts the Lord, do not let it corrupt you.
Abyssus_j Jun 27, 2024 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by zastcat:
It's absolutely still in that phase all the tide games have had where it's playable and somewhat fun but hasn't truly hit its stride yet

Its a lot of fun, feels great to play, constant improvements, has a good volume of players to keep lobby wait times low, so I'd say its in its stride, but yeah, its current delivery is short of player expectations on launch, so yet to reach the peak of what its trying to be.
Maybe I'm just playing semantics.
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