Female Space Marines

[Gunslinger]

I'm a guy. Personally I will be playing as a male space marine. I want to coop through the campaign with my girlfriend however and she prefers to play as female characters. After learning about the new female custodes I was wondering if there's any chance we will get the option to have a female space marine. Maybe a DLC option in the future?

[Moonlight Knight]

Originally posted by Lichlord9333:

Originally posted by Backler:

The thing about female Custodes is... if they've always existed, where have the been? Has GW been keeping them all in the kitchen?

Gaslighting is what they love to do...

Sorry, a retcon announcement isn't "gaslighting."

[Konrad Curze]

Originally posted by Vanguard:

Who cares.

The people who've spent 5 grand+ on Sisters of Battle minis who don't want there favorite faction destroyed and literally all the money they've invested into it because the woke community wanted "tits and arse marines"

Those are the people who care.

[Lichlord9333]

Originally posted by ♡StacyScene♡:

Yeah pretty much, I can't believe I even cared enough to open this forum, I know after today I'm never looking in here again nothing but crybabies and the most fragile people I've seen in a long time.

Took you 19 minutes to get back after saying never gonna look here again...

[Oku]

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

Originally posted by Vanguard:

Who cares.

The people who've spent 5 grand+ on Sisters of Battle minis who don't want there favorite faction destroyed and literally all the money they've invested into it because the woke community wanted "tits and arse marines"

Those are the people who care.

Sweetheart if you actually played the tabletop you'd know that the presence of Female Space Marines would in absolutely no-way impact Sororitas. The two armies are utterly different with their own unique sets of rules and units and aesthetics. Female space marines would essentially look like a set of heads you could put on a space marine body while you're gluing them together. Meanwhile Sororitas would continue to exist as they do.

Stop trying to use the people who play the tabletop as a shield. We don't care if GW does or doesn't make fem marines canon. People who want them will kitbash them if they don't. People who don't want them won't build them if they do.

[Konrad Curze]

Originally posted by ♡StacyScene♡:

Originally posted by Vanguard:

Who cares.

Yeah pretty much, I can't believe I even cared enough to open this forum, I know after today I'm never looking in here again nothing but crybabies and the most fragile people I've seen in a long time.

A big reason why people care is because people play TABLETOP which is what 40k is primally.

Now idk if you know, but these table top models you buy, aren't friggin cheap, they're also in limited supply you also HAVTO PAINT THEM (and yes you HAVTO for most tournaments)

I have a friend (hes actually like rank 18th i think world atm overall and hes like #1 as sisters only player in the WORLD) and hes spent roughly 30+ grand on his sisters of battle army.

Now the bro is flippn' fuming because basically the way he sees it is, if female marines get put into the setting... What was the point of GW bringing out Sisters of Battle remake a few years ago?

What was the point of spending all that money on an army that will be replaced... by female marines?

[♡StacyScene♡]

Originally posted by Lichlord9333:

Originally posted by ♡StacyScene♡:

Yeah pretty much, I can't believe I even cared enough to open this forum, I know after today I'm never looking in here again nothing but crybabies and the most fragile people I've seen in a long time.

Took you 19 minutes to get back after saying never gonna look here again...

Had to right the wrong I committed by accidentally assuming someone who wasn't part of the stupid mob was part of them, so I corrected my own mistake, and then decided to inform someone else, I'm gonna stop caring soon of course, but right now it's fun pointing out how uninformed these people are.

[AH-1 Cobra]

The effectiveness of the Space Marines would plummet if they suited up little tam tam in armor.

[Moonlight Knight]

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

Now the bro is flippn' fuming because basically the way he sees it is, if female marines get put into the setting... What was the point of GW bringing out Sisters of Battle remake a few years ago?

What was the point of spending all that money on an army that will be replaced... by female marines?

The point was spending money on a group of fanatical space-nun paladins. Which is what Sororitas are, not "the female version of Astartes."

[Konrad Curze]

Originally posted by Oku:

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

The people who've spent 5 grand+ on Sisters of Battle minis who don't want there favorite faction destroyed and literally all the money they've invested into it because the woke community wanted "tits and arse marines"

Those are the people who care.

Sweetheart if you actually played the tabletop you'd know that the presence of Female Space Marines would in absolutely no-way impact Sororitas. The two armies are utterly different with their own unique sets of rules and units and aesthetics. Female space marines would essentially look like a set of heads you could put on a space marine body while you're gluing them together. Meanwhile Sororitas would continue to exist as they do.

Stop trying to use the people who play the tabletop as a shield. We don't care if GW does or doesn't make fem marines canon. People who want them will kitbash them if they don't. People who don't want them won't build them if they do.

Can safely say ive played FAR more tabletop then you and getting into an army has NOTHING to do with the ruleset.

Its 100% how they look feel and are in the lore first, only the true sweaters of tabletop play meta, 90% of the playerbase picks what they think is cool and run with it.

If you introduce female marines, it literally makes sisters void.

Why would ANY new player pick sisters when female marines look cooler are bigger are stronger in MOST metas could be easily converted etc? Why would ANYONE want to play sisters after that?

Don't call me sweetheart too, I ain't 13, im 43 and i've played this game for alot longer then you have.

[Konrad Curze]

Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

Now the bro is flippn' fuming because basically the way he sees it is, if female marines get put into the setting... What was the point of GW bringing out Sisters of Battle remake a few years ago?

What was the point of spending all that money on an army that will be replaced... by female marines?

The point was spending money on a group of fanatical space-nun paladins. Which is what Sororitas are, not "the female version of Astartes."

Okay dude well if thats what you think then you can think that.

But we all know that is 100% a lie and if they made female marine models, sisters WOULD cease to be played by literally 90% of the player base that plays it.

Half the people i know who play sisters only play it cause its the closest thing to female marines.

2 of my friends are world champs, 1 of them is the #1 sisters player in the world atm.

All 3 of them said they played sisters because it was either meta or it was the closest thing they could play to female marines.

Pretty sure ima take there words over yours, some guy whos never competed ever and probs doesn't even own an army.

[Some Bloke]

Wow I like this gas lighting medal earning "discussionist's", makes it easier to find the right fans to the lore... And block all the people wanting too "message"... Let them play with each other LOL!

[Moonlight Knight]

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

If you introduce female marines, it literally makes sisters void.

No, it doesn't. They have their own thing going on.

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

Why would ANY new player pick sisters when female marines look cooler are bigger are stronger in MOST metas could be easily converted etc? Why would ANYONE want to play sisters after that?

Speaking as someone who has their own homebrew Order Minoris AND their own all-female Space Marine chapter (using some lore finagling supposing one of the Lost Primarchs wasn't FEMALE, but had geneseed that was uniquely compatible with female anatomy for other reasons - probably not lore-accurate if they ever flesh out the Lost Primarchs, but it's not just ignoring lore entirely), I think it's pretty fair to say this is an extremely simplistic and simplified take. I think you're mostly speaking out of your own tastes and biases.

[♡StacyScene♡]

Originally posted by Rec:

Originally posted by ♡StacyScene♡:

I hope you know Custodes aren't geneseeded, they're custom built by the Emperor himself, so there's no arguement that they can't take the geneseed when they do not receieve it as Custodes in the first place.

Anyway 5 years ago a novel writer, Aaron Dembski-Bowden, wanted to write female custodes etc, and said he was only told no because they couldn't get the minis out, so this has been a long time coming from GW, and has been planned by plenty of artists and writers for years.

Here's him writing about it in a Reddit Comment.
https://old.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/aynlxa/its_international_womens_day_so_how_are_we/ei3rp64/?context=3&share_id=HFWsSOpOqTEalCJmvlleg

Oh and before you find some excuse, here's his Black Library page, he's an accomplished writer and has been writing books for a good while.
https://www.blacklibrary.com/authors/aaron-dembski-bowden

Take your BS and leave. You already said you will leave so just ♥♥♥♥ off. Your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ideology is at an end. There are no female custodees. GW has learned the hard way what it means to dip their toes into this cesspool. There are no minis, there is one book and a trigger happy moron on GW's social media. Nothing else. In 2-3 years the book will either have a nr 2 when we will realise this was all some chaos plot/dream or completely made up BS decanonised. I am not interested in any arguments about this topic. It nothing but pure political ideology shoved by a metric ton to any IP that is making money and is stupid enough to entertain the idea of modern audience. Piss off to Concord.

Yup, you literally cannot read, literally novel writers who have been in this for decades have explictly said there is NO in universe lore for why there cannot be female custodes, if you want to argue with them go ahead, they're getting paid to write novels for 40K for a living, and they plan on creating a novel of 40k mixed gender custodes, and there's literally nothing you can do about that.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

Originally posted by Oku:

Sweetheart if you actually played the tabletop you'd know that the presence of Female Space Marines would in absolutely no-way impact Sororitas. The two armies are utterly different with their own unique sets of rules and units and aesthetics. Female space marines would essentially look like a set of heads you could put on a space marine body while you're gluing them together. Meanwhile Sororitas would continue to exist as they do.

Stop trying to use the people who play the tabletop as a shield. We don't care if GW does or doesn't make fem marines canon. People who want them will kitbash them if they don't. People who don't want them won't build them if they do.

Can safely say ive played FAR more tabletop then you and getting into an army has NOTHING to do with the ruleset.

Its 100% how they look feel and are in the lore first, only the true sweaters of tabletop play meta, 90% of the playerbase picks what they think is cool and run with it.

If you introduce female marines, it literally makes sisters void.

Why would ANY new player pick sisters when female marines look cooler are bigger are stronger in MOST metas could be easily converted etc? Why would ANYONE want to play sisters after that?

Don't call me sweetheart too, I ain't 13, im 43 and i've played this game for alot longer then you have.

Yeah you literally do not play the tabletop lmfao.

Sororitas have entire novel-length books of lore and aesthetics completely unique to them completely detached from Astartes chapters. The way they play in the tabletop is completely different from Astartes. The aesthetics and visuals they have are completely different from Astartes. If you seriously think that, then you are projecting hard, and it's a massive skill issue.

Also, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insult to the Sororitas as a faction. The idea that the only reason people play them is because boob armor? You're seriously going to reduce them down that hard to make a non-argument? Get out of here lmao

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by Konrad Curze:

Originally posted by Oku:

Sweetheart if you actually played the tabletop you'd know that the presence of Female Space Marines would in absolutely no-way impact Sororitas. The two armies are utterly different with their own unique sets of rules and units and aesthetics. Female space marines would essentially look like a set of heads you could put on a space marine body while you're gluing them together. Meanwhile Sororitas would continue to exist as they do.

Stop trying to use the people who play the tabletop as a shield. We don't care if GW does or doesn't make fem marines canon. People who want them will kitbash them if they don't. People who don't want them won't build them if they do.

Can safely say ive played FAR more tabletop then you and getting into an army has NOTHING to do with the ruleset.

Its 100% how they look feel and are in the lore first, only the true sweaters of tabletop play meta, 90% of the playerbase picks what they think is cool and run with it.

If you introduce female marines, it literally makes sisters void.

Why would ANY new player pick sisters when female marines look cooler are bigger are stronger in MOST metas could be easily converted etc? Why would ANYONE want to play sisters after that?

Don't call me sweetheart too, I ain't 13, im 43 and i've played this game for alot longer then you have.

So wait, meta doesn't matter. But then also plays a role into why Sisters would be outclassed? Your argument also seems to hinge on their gender being the only difference that matters from a tabletop perspective when it's factually wrong. Otherwise you'd be complaining about the new inquisition army boxes. Or the Imperial Guard. Pretty sure the squats got some gals too.

Sisters got a completely different aesthetic from Space Marines, that draws players in for that reason. Some players enjoy it, some players don't. Being women isn't the primary reason to nelieve that to be so