Adeptus Sororitas

[Mr_Puddins]

The reason there are no female Astartes is because they have their own branches within the Imperium forces. Female Astartes would make Adeptus Sororitas obsolete effectively. Besides that, there is an element of gender roles, more or less. Very few people find it a cool idea to have females featuring giantism with massive hands and feet. I know the real lore-heads know that Astartes aren't just taller with more muscle, they have 'giantism' - means their hands, head, and feet (and general anatomy) isn't just larger, it's an entirely different set of body proportions.

I don't understand all the anti-Sororitas hate speech personally. I think Sisters of Silence are an awesome idea. They have something unique. An entire army of female psychic pariahs.. Astartes don't have that... So why do so many folks want to take away the uniqueness of Sororitas? Not to mention warping the entire lore just to fit their fetish or political agenda... I know lots of far left extremists would love to add female Astartes just for the very reason of warping the lore and upsetting folks. What kind of reason is that? To not even want something for yourself but to want it merely because it will hurt someone else? That sounds like a psychological sickness to me.

So, I personally stand with keeping the Adeptus Sororitas unique instead of destroying them for some hate based purely political agenda.

#saveSororitas

Edit: for any moderate Lefists out there plz don't take my satire as "hate".

Edit: as follows/

In the same manner many Warhammer Fantasy fans do not respect AoS as cannon it is a perfectly relevant stance to say that Female Astartes are not cannon either.

Just because some political hack gets hired for the sole purpose of corrupting the game/lore with politics that doesn't mean anything.

Now there are various changes that have been debated in 40k such as "new Nurgle" and Primaris SM. I myself am a huge fan of New Nurgle, which would be very evident if you saw how I painted my Maggotkin army. However, I'm not into the Primaris concept. However, these changes represent a shift in that state of progress - a new iteration - designed to move the game forward. Furthermore, these changes do not reflect the creeping in of hyper-political agendas.

The issue here is the corruption of the game by warping the cannon and setting with Post Modern politics. The imagery of the Imperium has always been a satirical shot at the gross disturbia of all-consuming industries and religious fanaticism (secular or otherwise...). Various other metaphors exist in the game relevant to other socio-economic issues such as the Orks being associated with the Irish or black people (I'm sure most folks here know what the Irish are referred to as in Europe...). One could also associate various other races with various other themes: the Tyrannids or Skaven with Islam. The Eldar with Thule.

UNDERSTAND THIS... I am not personally making these associations. It is well known for example that HP Lovecraft was a racial/cultural purist and very likely an outright racist. His own lore reflected his disdain for inter-racial intermingling. Racist ideologies and ideologies that beleive in Ethic/Cultural purity are a thing in our world... It's just part of reality. In the Occult - Antipathy - is an accepted principle of Nature. That is to say that Racism is effectively natural. I personally am not racist but I accept that Antipathy is a perfectly natural instinctual response for those - who on a base primal level - experience fear when they encounter things different from themselves. I personally do not experience fear when I encounter difference. Personally, I experience awe and curiosity.. even sek'shoe'all attraction... because that too is an Instinctual Primal Drive on behalf of the Continuity of Species. That is to say, it is just as important to protect the purity of Ethnicity and Culture as it is to occasionally mix them - this, to promote the gene-pool and creativity.

So, to reiterate - Many of the worlds most beloved authors and such have often been very nasty people.. or otherwise those who have imperfect or dastardly qualities. Ever heard the quote, "Never meet your heros."? And it is natural for their ideology and life experience to manifest in their art. Does this mean we need to purge or bastardize their art? It is the flaw in a gemstone which gives it it's unique and brilliant colors... I think people who's minds exist on an ascended level of Macrocosmic Perception can accept and consider the times and the then generally-accepted-cultural-knowledge-and-perspective.

So do I agree with adapting cannon in the name of continuity of the game and story? Yes. But to serve the polarist whims of hate filled cultural/political activists? No.

[Black Magic]

Sororitas and Adeptus Astartes are not in the same league in any way, shape or form. Even in the novels it shows Sororitas getting bodied by Chaos Marines.

Don't pretend they're even on the same level. The only unique aspect of the Adepta Sororitas is the fact that their sheer faith *can* cause warp-shenanigans ("miracles") to happen. They're boring bars of soap with no real personality beyond 'Muh Emperor' (the whole reason I hate them is because, as a fan who has played 40k's tabletop for over 20 years, I've been boxed into "oh you must love the Sororitas!" (take a guess why) as if that's the only option available to me). I prefer playing things that aren't dull hyper-religious perma-menstruating pious types and the incel's ideal of a "perfect woman".

There's only 2 Sororitas even worthwhile mentioning while the rest are forgettable. Saint Celestine (whose not even human any more), and Ephrael Stern. As opposed to the endless deluge of Space Marines and everything else. The 1-to-1 parity is simply not comparable.

The Sisters of Silence will always be relevant because being a Null in 40k is a huge deal (an actual 40k fan knows this); they're trained to the point that they can assert their Null-aura onto Space Marines and slow down their physiological processes that they can't even stand on their own two feet any more, or make their armor feel like it's so heavy by sapping them of their energy by doing so. They're completely immune to warp corruption. COMPLETELY, not technically like the Sororitas (who have been corrupted multiple times across the canon). Not because they're women.

In-fact, one of the most powerful Null entities in 40k was an unstable Assassin called 'SPEAR' who had the power to KILL the Emperor himself (his whole schtick that his Null ability allowed him to redirect Psychic attacks sent at him straight back at the attacker). And that didn't go down well with Horus who wanted the Emperor to himself.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Sororitas and Adeptus Astartes are not in the same league in any way, shape or form. Even in the novels it shows Sororitas getting bodied by Chaos Marines.

Don't pretend they're even on the same level. The only unique aspect of the Adepta Sororitas is the fact that their sheer faith *can* cause warp-shenanigans ("miracles") to happen. They're boring bars of soap with no real personality beyond 'Muh Emperor' (the whole reason I hate them is because, as a fan who has played 40k's tabletop for over 20 years, I've been boxed into "oh you must love the Sororitas!" (take a guess why) as if that's the only option available to me). I prefer playing things that aren't dull hyper-religious perma-menstruating pious types and the incel's ideal of a "perfect woman".

The Sisters of Silence will always be relevant because being a Null in 40k is a huge deal (an actual 40k fan knows this); they're trained to the point that they can assert their Null-aura onto Space Marines and slow down their physiological processes that they can't even stand on their own two feet any more, or make their armor feel like it's so heavy by sapping them of their energy by doing so. Not because they're women.

In-fact, one of the most powerful Null entities in 40k was an unstable Assassin called 'SPEAR' who had the power to KILL the Emperor himself (his whole schtick that his Null ability allowed him to redirect Psychic attacks sent at him straight back at the attacker). And that didn't go down well with Horus who wanted the Emperor to himself.

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

[VDRSK]

I agree, as I mentioned in another post, some of the black library do have the sisters as being on par with space marines (black library is inconsistent at best). Those who know little about the lore basically just assume SoB are essentially female space-marines anyway. So just upgrading SoB so they are on par with a space marine is far better then just making female space marines.

Although I think that could lead to the space marines being overshadowed, the space marines are mostly shown as level headed.

The sisters however are shown as ultra zealous and bloodthirsty, so them also being on par with a space marine as well would probably make them a far more terrifying and cooler unit then space marines.

So the personality of SoB with the power of a space marine would be the perfect representation of warhammer 40k.

[~ Fabulous ~]

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Sororitas and Adeptus Astartes are not in the same league in any way, shape or form. Even in the novels it shows Sororitas getting bodied by Chaos Marines.

Don't pretend they're even on the same level. The only unique aspect of the Adepta Sororitas is the fact that their sheer faith *can* cause warp-shenanigans ("miracles") to happen. They're boring bars of soap with no real personality beyond 'Muh Emperor' (the whole reason I hate them is because, as a fan who has played 40k's tabletop for over 20 years, I've been boxed into "oh you must love the Sororitas!" (take a guess why) as if that's the only option available to me). I prefer playing things that aren't dull hyper-religious perma-menstruating pious types and the incel's ideal of a "perfect woman".

The Sisters of Silence will always be relevant because being a Null in 40k is a huge deal (an actual 40k fan knows this); they're trained to the point that they can assert their Null-aura onto Space Marines and slow down their physiological processes that they can't even stand on their own two feet any more, or make their armor feel like it's so heavy by sapping them of their energy by doing so. Not because they're women.

In-fact, one of the most powerful Null entities in 40k was an unstable Assassin called 'SPEAR' who had the power to KILL the Emperor himself (his whole schtick that his Null ability allowed him to redirect Psychic attacks sent at him straight back at the attacker). And that didn't go down well with Horus who wanted the Emperor to himself.

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

Yeah, SoB cool, they drop church instead of drop pod, they are so holier than thou that demons can die because of it, they are very 40k just like the mechnicus, also it is funny that the other person say SoB is the perfect women for incel, SoB are strong, loud and only into the Emperor, pretty sure if they see an incel they will call him weak pathetic worm and purge them of the sins of existence for bringing shame to humanity lol

[Black Magic]

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Sororitas and Adeptus Astartes are not in the same league in any way, shape or form. Even in the novels it shows Sororitas getting bodied by Chaos Marines.

Don't pretend they're even on the same level. The only unique aspect of the Adepta Sororitas is the fact that their sheer faith *can* cause warp-shenanigans ("miracles") to happen. They're boring bars of soap with no real personality beyond 'Muh Emperor' (the whole reason I hate them is because, as a fan who has played 40k's tabletop for over 20 years, I've been boxed into "oh you must love the Sororitas!" (take a guess why) as if that's the only option available to me). I prefer playing things that aren't dull hyper-religious perma-menstruating pious types and the incel's ideal of a "perfect woman".

The Sisters of Silence will always be relevant because being a Null in 40k is a huge deal (an actual 40k fan knows this); they're trained to the point that they can assert their Null-aura onto Space Marines and slow down their physiological processes that they can't even stand on their own two feet any more, or make their armor feel like it's so heavy by sapping them of their energy by doing so. Not because they're women.

In-fact, one of the most powerful Null entities in 40k was an unstable Assassin called 'SPEAR' who had the power to KILL the Emperor himself (his whole schtick that his Null ability allowed him to redirect Psychic attacks sent at him straight back at the attacker). And that didn't go down well with Horus who wanted the Emperor to himself.

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

Are you still throwing a baby-fit over not getting the definition of the word "satire" right and immediately resorting to insults as a result?

Calm down, kiddo. The fictional battle nuns are not going to sleep with you.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

Are you still throwing a baby-fit over not getting the definition of the word "satire" right and immediately resorting to insults as a result?

Calm down, kiddo. The fictional battle nuns are not going to sleep with you.

the only throwing a fit is you

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

Are you still throwing a baby-fit over not getting the definition of the word "satire" right and immediately resorting to insults as a result?

Calm down, kiddo. The fictional battle nuns are not going to sleep with you.

your not a 40k fan we can all see it time to give up my friend you try'd but failed.

[Ralin]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

Are you still throwing a baby-fit over not getting the definition of the word "satire" right and immediately resorting to insults as a result?

Calm down, kiddo. The fictional battle nuns are not going to sleep with you.

If "not knowing the lore" is an insult to you, you're nothing but a professional victim. No surprise there, that's all you people are good at.

Also, how very Jamie Marchi of you to go straight to "hurr ur n incel." No class, no argument, no critical thinking, just like all the other clowns. You're a true poster child of ignorance.

Please hurry up and get your generic retort out of the way. Tell everyone how I'm at alert level 5 and mobilizing the wokenwhateverdumbcrapyousaid. Tell everyone how I'm an incel and you have a v****a, get over it. Tell everyone that I'm a reeeeecist, massagynocologist, big hit, Xenawarriorprincessphobe, sissy gender huewite male with my maleocracy paytreearchal army. Whatever it is, just get it over with so I can see it, have a good laugh, and move on with life.

[Black Magic]

Originally posted by Ralin:

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Are you still throwing a baby-fit over not getting the definition of the word "satire" right and immediately resorting to insults as a result?

Calm down, kiddo. The fictional battle nuns are not going to sleep with you.

If "not knowing the lore" is an insult to you, you're nothing but a professional victim. No surprise there, that's all you people are good at.

Also, how very Jamie Marchi of you to go straight to "hurr ur n incel." No class, no argument, no critical thinking, just like all the other clowns. You're a true poster child of ignorance.

Please hurry up and get your generic retort out of the way. Tell everyone how I'm at alert level 5 and mobilizing the wokenwhateverdumbcrapyousaid. Tell everyone how I'm an incel and you have a v****a, get over it. Tell everyone that I'm a reeeeecist, massagynocologist, big hit, Xenawarriorprincessphobe, sissy gender huewite male with my maleocracy paytreearchal army. Whatever it is, just get it over with so I can see it, have a good laugh, and move on with life.

Don't care.

But I'm sure it was truly an educational read. Let me know when you have to board the tourist bus back out of town.

I heard they had to take the Trench Crusade station off the stop list because the bunch of you got permanently banned from using its services.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

begins by saying one the most like factions is a boring bar of soap and there a 40k fan of 20 years or more. then proceeds to say i prefer not playing hyper religious perma-menstruating pious types which is pretty much 40k in human form. the fact that you think SoB's are boring show you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about there lore.

Are you still throwing a baby-fit over not getting the definition of the word "satire" right and immediately resorting to insults as a result?

Calm down, kiddo. The fictional battle nuns are not going to sleep with you.

oh yeah and one more thing the SoB's aren't that hot i'd much rather sleep with a femboy or daemonette honestly.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Ralin:

If "not knowing the lore" is an insult to you, you're nothing but a professional victim. No surprise there, that's all you people are good at.

Also, how very Jamie Marchi of you to go straight to "hurr ur n incel." No class, no argument, no critical thinking, just like all the other clowns. You're a true poster child of ignorance.

Please hurry up and get your generic retort out of the way. Tell everyone how I'm at alert level 5 and mobilizing the wokenwhateverdumbcrapyousaid. Tell everyone how I'm an incel and you have a v****a, get over it. Tell everyone that I'm a reeeeecist, massagynocologist, big hit, Xenawarriorprincessphobe, sissy gender huewite male with my maleocracy paytreearchal army. Whatever it is, just get it over with so I can see it, have a good laugh, and move on with life.

Don't care.

But I'm sure it was truly an educational read. Let me know when you have to board the tourist bus back out of town.

I heard they had to take the Trench Crusade station off the list because the bunch of you got permanently banned from using its services.

if you don't care then leave no one wants you here.

[VDRSK]

Originally posted by Dagoth Ur:

oh yeah and one more thing the SoB's aren't that hot i'd much rather sleep with a femboy or daemonette honestly.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3253787711&fileuploadsuccess=1

[Gourmet]

Just like the strongest woman will never be stronger than the strongest man, the strongest Sororitas will never be as strong as the strongest Astartes.

[uSIHitMan]

game called space marine not space karen. no women in astartes. everything else is made up by DEI

[Valec]

LOL the issue you folks don't seem to realize is this game didn't make up female Astartes. You need to go look at the novels for that.

You are complaining to the wrong people. The developers of this game as just using the lore as it exists, which now canonically includes female space marines.