Anyone's Know why they never added

[Jarazz]

Vent (From Megaman ZX)
Grey (From Megaman ZX Advent)
Ashe (From Megaman ZX Advent)
Duo (From Megaman X8 and the Power Fighters)

Just asking....

[Raven]

Honestly, a business like this can see its projection pretty early on about the direction its going. Given how lots of people say the devs stopped putting effort into dialogue and events nearly 10 months before shutting down, odds are what they did was they rushed out their focused story characters as soon as possible to give closure to the game.

It's a bit bitter, but in a way its nice they at least tried to wrap up the story before shutting down. If they were REALLY generous, they won't completely disregard offline here, and we can see some additions in the future in the form of DLC, but I won't hold my breath on it.

These are purely speculation, I don't have any insider knowledge or authority to speak on why they weren't added, can only piece together what I know of business practices and what I read and saw online from what people said about game before leading up to the end of service.

[Chaos 混沌 カオス]

Vent is obsolete when we have Aile. And you know how waifu gatchas are.

[SparkTFS]

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Vent is obsolete when we have Aile. And you know how waifu gatchas are.

Still, they could've always added him even if just a skin (Ex: Call the character Model ZX and have a Vent and Aile skin).

But sadly you're right, that how gacha works. And that's why we got so many Iris'es and festive characters, but not Prometheus, Duo, Fefnir, Craft, Scarface, Epsilon, Phanthom, etc...

[Celonte]

More characters like those would have been great yeah, though I can guess why seasonal variants tend to be done instead - they give that reliable timed sense of FOMO that gacha/F2P games rely upon. Plus you could say other reasons like needing to pay new VAs and things rather than just bringing back the ones you already contracted, or making new 3D models rather than redesigning ones you already made etc.

I'd love to see more characters like those though, my personal ones I'd like to see are Vent's FX and HX armours, and Aile's LX and PX ones... hopefully the modding scene is able to work the game enough to create and add more characters/armours like these.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Vent is obsolete when we have Aile. And you know how waifu gatchas are.

This lol, but to me Aile is the canonical one because I always play with Grey on Advent, model ZX also is very feminine in my opinion.

Classical Megaman had a poor representation here, I would have preferred one million times if we had Gutsman instead of Massimo.

[SparkTFS]

Originally posted by Zeo:

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Vent is obsolete when we have Aile. And you know how waifu gatchas are.

This lol, but to me Aile is the canonical one because I always play with Grey on Advent, model ZX also is very feminine in my opinion.

Classical Megaman had a poor representation here, I would have preferred one million times if we had Gutsman instead of Massimo.

To be fair (as mostly a X fan) I would prefer Massimo over Guts Man - as he already appears in many games, while Massimo only is present in one. Too bad they didn't give him even one variant.

But also, I wouldn't mind seeing Guts Man and other Robot Masters like Drill Man, Elec Man and Heat Man appear as playable characters (In fact, I wish that modders are able to swap Elec Beam ver. Mega Man with Elec Man eventually).

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The interesting and sad thing about Mega Man X DiVE is that the same thing that permited us to have so many fan favorite characters playable in a Mega Man game for the first time (gacha f2p model) neglected many of the characters many wished for, bringing an unecessarily big amount of seasonal characters and variants, as well as making the characters unbalanced.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if we could scrap most of those seasonal characters and swap them with other characters like Duo, Lumine, Phanthom, etc. Then we could have their models as skins for their base versions.

[CrowRising]

There were plans for Prometheus, but they never got around to it. Evidence would suggest that this is because they ran out of time before it was time to stop producing content due to the EoS period approaching.

Originally posted by Zeo:

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Vent is obsolete when we have Aile. And you know how waifu gatchas are.

This lol, but to me Aile is the canonical one because I always play with Grey on Advent, model ZX also is very feminine in my opinion.

Honestly as I see it both storylines are canon. They are both two halves of a single whole, each containing critical information left out in the other. The same applies to Grey and Ashe. I assume they just split the stories apart in gameplay to increase the amount of time you have to play the game to learn everything, since a single playthrough of the story in both games is only around 4-6 hours long each depending on how experienced you are.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by CrowRising:

There were plans for Prometheus, but they never got around to it. Evidence would suggest that this is because they ran out of time before it was time to stop producing content due to the EoS period approaching.

Originally posted by Zeo:

This lol, but to me Aile is the canonical one because I always play with Grey on Advent, model ZX also is very feminine in my opinion.

Honestly as I see it both storylines are canon. They are both two halves of a single whole, each containing critical information left out in the other. The same applies to Grey and Ashe. I assume they just split the stories apart in gameplay to increase the amount of time you have to play the game to learn everything, since a single playthrough of the story in both games is only around 4-6 hours long each depending on how experienced you are.

There is a theory that if you play with Grey, it means that Ashe died and vice-versa, if I remember right when they show all the models we can see both Aile and Grant in the background, I like of the future design of Grant a lot more (with long hair lol). I wish that they could keep the ZX series going, they are very underrated in my opinion (usually Megaman Zero takes the slice of the cake).

[Zeo]

Originally posted by SparkTFS:

Originally posted by Zeo:

This lol, but to me Aile is the canonical one because I always play with Grey on Advent, model ZX also is very feminine in my opinion.

Classical Megaman had a poor representation here, I would have preferred one million times if we had Gutsman instead of Massimo.

To be fair (as mostly a X fan) I would prefer Massimo over Guts Man - as he already appears in many games, while Massimo only is present in one. Too bad they didn't give him even one variant.

But also, I wouldn't mind seeing Guts Man and other Robot Masters like Drill Man, Elec Man and Heat Man appear as playable characters (In fact, I wish that modders are able to swap Elec Beam ver. Mega Man with Elec Man eventually).

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The interesting and sad thing about Mega Man X DiVE is that the same thing that permited us to have so many fan favorite characters playable in a Mega Man game for the first time (gacha f2p model) neglected many of the characters many wished for, bringing an unecessarily big amount of seasonal characters and variants, as well as making the characters unbalanced.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if we could scrap most of those seasonal characters and swap them with other characters like Duo, Lumine, Phanthom, etc. Then we could have their models as skins for their base versions.

I only have myself to blame, as I NEVER EVEN HEARD about Command Mission until I started this game.

[CrowRising]

Originally posted by Zeo:

Originally posted by CrowRising:

There were plans for Prometheus, but they never got around to it. Evidence would suggest that this is because they ran out of time before it was time to stop producing content due to the EoS period approaching.


Honestly as I see it both storylines are canon. They are both two halves of a single whole, each containing critical information left out in the other. The same applies to Grey and Ashe. I assume they just split the stories apart in gameplay to increase the amount of time you have to play the game to learn everything, since a single playthrough of the story in both games is only around 4-6 hours long each depending on how experienced you are.

There is a theory that if you play with Grey, it means that Ashe died and vice-versa, if I remember right when they show all the models we can see both Aile and Grant in the background, I like of the future design of Grant a lot more (with long hair lol). I wish that they could keep the ZX series going, they are very underrated in my opinion (usually Megaman Zero takes the slice of the cake).

I'm aware of the theory, and honestly I don't believe it. It's full of holes when you take the time to think about it.

-Grey and Ashe both get injured in their respective intro stages either way, and their injuries weren't fatal regardless. The only actual difference would just be a matter of them waking up somewhere else.

-Grey and Ashe co-existing, as well as Vent and Aile being seen together in the animated Japanese reveal trailer, is a strong indication that Vent and Aile co-exist as well. There's not really any good reason why only one or the other should be showing up in the story.

-There's strong evidence pointing towards Vent and Aile being siblings if you pay attention in both games. In particular, it's revealed in Aile's story that the Mavericks specifically spared her in the raid she survived as a child due to her potential to be a Model W chosen one (which would have to be true for Vent too for him to survive), Models X and Z were created based on Ciel's research into Model W and she couldn't remove the chosen one restrictions meaning Model X and Z chosen ones are the same people as Model W chosen ones. In the sequel it's revealed that only people with Albert's DNA can even be Biometal chosen ones to begin with. Vent and Aile have incredibly similar appearances and close but not identical personalities, both were the sole survivors of the same raid, both specifically lost their mother, both must have a genetic link to Albert, and neither one ever mentions losing a sibling at any point or any related grief.

-Vent's story details related information to the formation of the Guardians, while Aile's story reveals that Giro is actually one of them despite him lying about this to Vent and acting as though they're just people he's familiar with. You need both parts together (and a little context from the sequel) to piece together the full story of how Vent and Aile became Model X chosen ones serving the Guardians.

-Grey is the intended chosen one for Model A, and together they make up a backup "Ultimate Mega Man". He was meant to be brainwashed so that Albert could use him as a backup body in the event anything ever happened to Albert's original body, and so if Grey were to ever die it would be in Albert's best interest to retrieve his body ASAP for his plan to be as flawless as possible. It was pure dumb luck that Grey was released from his pod early before the brainwashing could be completed.

-Ashe is a direct descendent of Albert, and survived the raid that killed her parents as a child by complete accident. The implication is that Albert specifically wanted to kill off direct family members so as to tie up any loose ends regarding any unauthorized Mega Men popping up. Because of this, Ashe suddenly showing up with the powers of Model A catches Albert completely off guard, as he admits in their final confrontation. She's a hole in his plan he didn't have time to completely account for.

This seems inconsistent with Vent and Aile being spared, but my guess is that it was actually Serpent who was in charge of that raid, and that he might have been planning on corrupting them into Model W users for his own purposes, something he never actually stops doing at any point during the first game. He's stubbornly insistent on filling Vent and Aile's hearts with hatred and despair and a desire for more power, almost as though they were his own chosen successors. In Aile's story, he makes it clear that he's aware of her genetic connection to Albert, and tells her a little bit about it as a final attempt to corrupt her, and it almost works until Giro shows up to put things into perspective.

-It's because Albert wasn't expecting Ashe to show up or for Grey to start making his own choices that there was enough of an opening in his plan for the two of them to even take him down at all. Ashe alone would just prompt Albert to revive in Grey's body, while Grey alone would be too expected to catch Albert off guard enough to truly defeat him. It's when you treat both of their stories as two halves of a single whole that everything starts clicking together.

[Chaos 混沌 カオス]

Originally posted by Zeo:

Classical Megaman had a poor representation here, I would have preferred one million times if we had Gutsman instead of Massimo.

In fairness, this game is an X game. And it was pretty obvious from the start that Command Mission characters were a primary focus if we go back and look at the early releases.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Originally posted by Zeo:

Classical Megaman had a poor representation here, I would have preferred one million times if we had Gutsman instead of Massimo.

In fairness, this game is an X game. And it was pretty obvious from the start that Command Mission characters were a primary focus if we go back and look at the early releases.

True, I agree as well.

@CrowRising: woah, take my points!

[Devsman]

They probably would have eventually if they could keep going forever. There are a lot of characters that would have been cool additions, like Signas, King, Rockman Shadow, Craft, Spider, Enker, and a bunch more that I'd list but I'm kind of scared they added after I stopped paying attention (lol). But they got too caught up in adding, you know, Gangsta Bridal Wesker Armor Ryu -another- for some reason instead.

[CrowRising]

Something I feel is also worth pointing out in this thread, while the ZX series didn't get much in the way of character representation, it did get stages. Area A, Area H, and the Floating Ruins (Which is just Area A again but from the sequel, but still) all get representation in some form in the game. On the other hand, while the Zero series got lots of characters, it got no stage representation.

[Chaos 混沌 カオス]

Remember that trailer that showed off ZX games when they were coming to DiVE? One scene showed a stage from a fanmade game.

Taicom got roasted for that one. XD