"A breath of fresh air"

[Macho Bears]

Yeah, another MOBA in a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ industry full of MOBA's is "fresh air" now? What makes this different to ANY other?

[defaultplayer]

Because this is multiplayer online battle arena? MOBA doesn't mean "dota-style game".

[GuNNuP]

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Because this is multiplayer online battle arena? MOBA doesn't mean "dota-style game".

exactly..

[ReaperOne1Two2]

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Because this is multiplayer online battle arena? MOBA doesn't mean "dota-style game".

exactly..

Traditionally people assumed it would on the basis the original games were basically those. But that's outdated considering we have quite a few games called MOBA's that aren't just that including another fairly similar to this called Merc Elite. OP just needs to stop jumping the gun and calm down.

It is like the term MMO's which used to be strictly thought of as like big scale games with super high playercounts on servers. Now pretty much any game with persistant stats calls itself MMO.

[Dedlok]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Macho Bears~ ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ:

Now lets look at the definition of MOBA.

Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), is a sub-genre of the real-time strategy (RTS) genre, in which often two teams of players compete with each other in discrete games, with each player controlling a single character through an RTS-style interface.

This pretty much all applies to Smashmunk...

[GuNNuP]

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It is? Oh, so Unreal Tournament is a MO-.. No, no it's not, that'd be silly.

Quake must be a MOB- No.. No, that's not either. Must only be restricted to Top Down shooters based within a small section, so we'll go with that.

Grand Theft Auto is a MO- nope, naw, that's not a MOBA either..

Now lets look at the definition of MOBA.

Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), is a sub-genre of the real-time strategy (RTS) genre, in which often two teams of players compete with each other in discrete games, with each player controlling a single character through an RTS-style interface.

Oh, RTS, okay. I must just have been completely wrong and clearly I am just silly and don't understand these things, therefore I just spout out words that I think I understand, but clearly don't in an attempt to seem clever.

Please learn to read.

Quake has strategy in realtime, and is action packed
Grand theft auto has strategy and is in real time is action packed
Hmm we contenue the debate. We can only assume the most narow definition it could be is break the actual meaning word for word Multiplayer Online Battle Arena, which is everything that is played online, in a battle areana, and compete with other people, to accomplish goals.

[ReaperOne1Two2]

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Oh, RTS, okay. I must just have been completely wrong and clearly I am just silly and don't understand these things, therefore I just spout out words that I think I understand, but clearly don't in an attempt to seem clever.

So where do you stand on the whole Smite, LOCO, SMNC, W:WOH(Not sure what to stick that in, rpg?) claiming to be moba's but are actually TPS's debate? Also is Counter-Strike 2d a moba now?

[Macho Bears]

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Oh, RTS, okay. I must just have been completely wrong and clearly I am just silly and don't understand these things, therefore I just spout out words that I think I understand, but clearly don't in an attempt to seem clever.

So where do you stand on the whole Smite, LOCO, SMNC claiming to be moba's but are actually TPS's debate? Also is Counter-Strike 2d a moba now?

TPS-MOBA. Not difficult.

This plays like a MOBA, looks like a MOBA and is a MOBA.. But is completely different to every other MOBA out there because it doesn't have skills or items. How does that make sense?

[jotun?]

The pace and flow of the game, in most modes, is completely different.

In Plunderball for example you have no lanes, no towers, no minions, no farming, and no upgrades. Games last 3-7 minutes instead of 20-60. It's Capture the Flag, pure and simple. Any similarity to DotA or LoL is only skin-deep. It just happens to fall inside the overly broad definition of a MOBA based on the camera view and controls, but the pacing, objectives, strategies, etc. are nothing like what people traditionally think of as MOBAs.

[Dedlok]

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So where do you stand on the whole Smite, LOCO, SMNC claiming to be moba's but are actually TPS's debate? Also is Counter-Strike 2d a moba now?

TPS-MOBA. Not difficult.

This plays like a MOBA, looks like a MOBA and is a MOBA.. But is completely different to every other MOBA out there because it doesn't have skills or items. How does that make sense?

It DOES have Skills and Items. You just don't buy them/make them stronger during matches based on how well you and/your team is doing.

That's like saying Team Fortress 2 is not a FPS because games like CounterStrike and BulletStorm let you buy new weapons/weapon upgrades with money you get by defeating your enemies and/or completing your objectives.

[ReaperOne1Two2]

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So where do you stand on the whole Smite, LOCO, SMNC claiming to be moba's but are actually TPS's debate? Also is Counter-Strike 2d a moba now?

TPS-MOBA. Not difficult.

This plays like a MOBA, looks like a MOBA and is a MOBA.. But is completely different to every other MOBA out there because it doesn't have skills or items. How does that make sense?

You forgot to insert what CS:2d is considered and W:WOH. I think the point that you missed is your lumping moba's as a giant one single unified genre instead of a bunch of differences between them as if they are all the same. The game should be considered a MOBA as many others should due to being a diverse term. Even magicka is releasing a moba with magika gameplay, still a moba but its highly different.

Your post above doesn't even match the one below this for your definition. Basically this doesn't even have a game mode with 3 lanes(Closest is least played which is a 2 lane mode which involves bombing towers then destroying a main base with npcs), it's a WASD controlled top down shooter with skill useages attached(Closest is Bloodline champions which has 0 lanes and npc's) with 1 moba game type under the label MOBA because it should be there.

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MOBA has become a new Genre and you'll likely see more of them. Smashmuck uses a different control scheme overall and is likely closer to a top-down shooter than a traditional MOBA. The game heavily deviates from the existing formula in an attempt to differentiate itself.

As with any genre, you'll see quite a few releases in a year for any particular genre. A popular genre will see more releases, though. FPS is always popular, but there was a bunch of third-person shooters popping up for a while. It's just how the industry tends to move.

How is this different? Since all I've seen / heard is that it's a MOBA. Which from my understanding is three lanes, NPC enemies funneling down it.

Is the difference that you can now shoot whenever you want? Because it certainly doesn't look any different to any other MOBA i've seen / heard of.

[Macho Bears]

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TPS-MOBA. Not difficult.

This plays like a MOBA, looks like a MOBA and is a MOBA.. But is completely different to every other MOBA out there because it doesn't have skills or items. How does that make sense?

You forgot to insert what CS:2d is considered and W:WOH. I think the point that you missed is your lumping moba's as a giant one single unified genre instead of a bunch of differences between them as if they are all the same. The game should be considered a MOBA as many others should due to being a diverse term. Even magicka is releasing a moba with magika gameplay, still a moba but its highly different.

Your post above doesn't even match the one below this for your definition. Basically this doesn't even have a game mode with 3 lanes(Closest is least played which is a 2 lane mode which involves bombing towers then destroying a main base with npcs), it's a WASD controlled top down shooter with skill useages attached(Closest is Bloodline champions which has 0 lanes and npc's) with 1 moba game type under the label MOBA because it should be there.

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How is this different? Since all I've seen / heard is that it's a MOBA. Which from my understanding is three lanes, NPC enemies funneling down it.

Is the difference that you can now shoot whenever you want? Because it certainly doesn't look any different to any other MOBA i've seen / heard of.

Except that both of my posts match up completely. I just didn't copy and paste the section where it shows your typical MOBA.

What I am asking for is how this is a MOBA and how is it different to anything else on the market. Considering this is, as reviewers have said, "a breath of fresh air". When at the minute, all I've had are fanboys saying "You don't know what a MOBA is" or "This is a MOBA and its good".

[jotun?]

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all I've had are fanboys saying "You don't know what a MOBA is" or "This is a MOBA and its good".

Then you've just been ignoring the people saying that while it falls under the broad definition of "MOBA" in terms of how it looks and controls, its gameplay is very different from the collection of DotA-clones that people generally associate with "MOBA".

[ReaperOne1Two2]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Macho Bears~ ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ:

Except that both of my posts match up completely. I just didn't copy and paste the section where it shows your typical MOBA.

What I am asking for is how this is a MOBA and how is it different to anything else on the market. Considering this is, as reviewers have said, "a breath of fresh air". When at the minute, all I've had are fanboys saying "You don't know what a MOBA is" or "This is a MOBA and its good".

So then your including this

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"How is this different? Since all I've seen / heard is that it's a MOBA. Which from my understanding is three lanes, NPC enemies funneling down it. "

So by your definition it's not a MOBA and is so totally different from one, so why are you calling it a MOBA? Can you not make up your mind? Which means your also not calling Bloodline champions a MOBA, W:WOH, Merc Elite, Magika Wizard Wars etc... which all are claiming MOBAS. Unless it's now a if it include any element of these situations or you want to retract it back to other post claiming basically any game with 1 unit in rts control.

[Vahvi]

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Reminds me more of bloodline champions than league. Especially considering it plays nothing whatsoever like league except having characters named champions.

Man i wish they had a dota style map for BLC...