Any way to customize weapons further?

[Szabolcs]

So Worms 2 was one of my all time favorite games from childhood, and since that one is not on Steam for some unexplained reason, I downloaded this as the closest one. I really like it, and it does bring back the feels, and I like many of the new features (like the manual placement of worms dropping stuff from ninja rope and Hungarian voices)... but I am seriously missing the weapon customization.

For example, from what I see, all you can change is weapon power between 1 and 5, which is super vague. It doesn't give you the damage caused, the explosion size, the number of bullets, etc. We really loved setting one weapon (usually the minigun) to very high power, causing major destruction cutting through the terrain, but here, even at power 5, the minigun causes minimal damage and explosions.

Same with Kamikaze. Since this is conceptually a really bad weapon, we used to compensate by giving it high damage and explosion. But here, I haven't even noticed any difference between power 3 and 5.

At least with the Ninja rope you get an actual difference, since the rope is longer and you have more shots...

Anyway, is there really no way to customize weapons in a meaningful way?

[5M0k1N]

yes use scheme eddy http://worms2d.info/SchemeEddy

[Szabolcs]

Thanks, I assume this is a tool that "hacks" into the game's settings, allowing values which are not possible from within the game itself. I'll try how it actually works.

Also, after a litle searching, I read that you get "cheats" after clelaring missions and stuff, for example you will be able to unlock weapons which are inaccessible now, like the Super Banana Bomb (probably my favorite weapon from W2, I was sad to see it removed) and the Priceless Ming Vase.

[Obn3g0n]

Yes, using ProjectX. You have unlimited control over the weapons. There are many excellent new weapons and utiliities, and other things like ~6 different types of barrels, that people have created, that you can use. It is far more difficult to create your own customizations than it is in Worms 2, though. But the things that have been created and the possibilities are also far greater than what was available in Worms 2.

Among other things, there's a "swim suit" utility, a helicopter, hang glider, hover board, all missing weaps from W2, and probably 100 other new weapons and things. ProjectX enables custom game logic, which can greatly change the game's strategy or add dynamic features to maps like gravity wells, weapon turrets, walls that change colour, etc. The best example which I recommend is the scheme "Highlander"- specifically the one called "0h so highlander". Each worm has its own random starting inventory of one weapon and one utility which can be used once each turn, and killing other worms (including your own worms) steals their weapons.

ProjectX uses an older version of WA (3.6.31.0) because its creator disappeared. There's still a decent devoted group of people who play PX online. Your best bet is to meet them and exchange contact info. Because it's an older version, which reintroduces some old bugs, the best way to use PX is to install a second copy of WA in a different folder. You should only use that 2nd copy when you want to use PX features. Doing this is not hard - the install procedure only takes a few minutes.

There is an automatic installer for PX found here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/217200/discussions/0/540737414785248520/
This takes care of the semi-complicated business of downgrading your version automatically. You should first install your 2nd copy of WA and then use the installer on that copy. You can copy over your entire User folder which will keep your maps, teams, schemes and other personalizations in the PX version.

You can download schemes, weapons, libs, etc, from the forums at px.worms2d.info. To get started it's usually simpler to just join other people's games at first, which automatically downloads those schemes/weaps to your computer. I had uploaded all my files in this thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/217200/discussions/0/208684375416159121/ but some of the links are now dead. And outdated.

Most people who use PX also install the mod called Rubberworm for extra features. There's an older version of Rubberworm which works on the version of WA that PX uses. Installer link: {LINK REMOVED}http://myfiles.my1.ru/wa/wk/RubberWorm-00112-L-installer.rar Read more here: https://worms2d.info/RubberWorm

If you use Windows 8 or 10 you will need the compatibility fixes found in my post in this thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/217200/discussions/0/1457328927851039595/ . It's as simple as extracting them to your Worms folder - a one-time fix that will work forever.

If you knew where to look/ask there "may be" a complete WA installation floating around pre-configured with PX, all schemes, libs, compatibility fixes and Rubberworm.. *but we can't talk about such things here, if they existed. PM me if you want more info..

[Obn3g0n]

Originally posted by 5M0k1N:

yes use scheme eddy http://worms2d.info/SchemeEddy

Use this tool in conjunction with the information on this page: https://worms2d.info/Weapons . For most weapons the maximum power is 15. You can see the blast radius and damage for each weapon by clicking it in the weapon grid. SchemeEddy lets you set the power up to 255 or something, but doing that will make the weapons not even work, or at least not have the desired effect.

Originally posted by Szabolcs:

Also, after a litle searching, I read that you get "cheats" after clelaring missions and stuff, for example you will be able to unlock weapons which are inaccessible now, like the Super Banana Bomb (probably my favorite weapon from W2, I was sad to see it removed) and the Priceless Ming Vase.

You can unlock those "cheats" by modifying your team with TeamED. http://worms2d.info/TeamED . Use the installer - it includes required files not bundled with the archive.

[```skunk3```]

Is the Rubberworm installer link broken? The download says that it is starting but no data gets transferred. I wanna finally get around to getting Rubber/PX installed as I have never played PX.

[Obn3g0n]

Originally posted by ```skunk3```:

Is the Rubberworm installer link broken? The download says that it is starting but no data gets transferred. I wanna finally get around to getting Rubber/PX installed as I have never played PX.

It's working for me. Maybe you have some software blocking the download?

[```skunk3```]

I downloaded the Windows 10 fix first, and then I downloaded PX itself because it said that rubberworm was included with it. I haven't had the chance to verify that it's working yet though but using /tellv seems to indicate that it is.