Fear & Hunger 2: Termina
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Fear & Hunger 2: Termina

LegAz 22 Thg01, 2023 @ 10:39am
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Marina is definitely a woman (with in-game proofs)
While sitting in discord with my friend, he told me that Marina is being crucified backwards to player pov (after being grabbed by the throat by the priest in mayor's manor). He said this was the proof of her being actually a man. I didn't believe him and we went to investigate which one of us is right.

So, we've managed to clarify that despite my skepticism Marina is really crucified differently from any other female contestants, but alas (for femboy lovers), when being saved by August and lying naked on the ground, Marina's body look quite similar to other female contestants (Abella specifically since we've compared Marina with her) with her breast cut off and groin area untouched (unlike the male contestants who have bloody mess left there). That is the only objective fact that determines that she's a woman (because her fathers talk is just talk).

Proofs:
Marina's injured and naked body[i.imgur.com]
Abella's injured and naked body[i.imgur.com]
Marcoh's injured and naked body[i.imgur.com]
Lần sửa cuối bởi LegAz; 22 Thg01, 2023 @ 10:47am
Nguyên văn bởi The Worst:
Okay so everyone's getting really confused regarding this subject so I'm going to right some wrongs in this discussion.

Marina is transgender by definition but not due to choice in the same sense, when Marina was born her mother either removed her genitals (or used magic to change then, possible sylvan stuff going on) and raised her as a girl even though she was born a male.

As Marina grew up she decided that although she escaped from the worshippers and dark priests she actually felt fine settling for the gender her mother had assigned her at birth

This calls into question whether it's transgenderism, because although Marina eventually chooses to identify as a girl. the choice at her birth was made by her mother, therefor disobeying the definition of transgenderism, if Marina was never forced to be a girl, she may have stayed a boy.

My best guess for the picture above is 3 potential reasons.

1) Marinas genitals were cut off or changed, so the village thought she was a girl at birth, and cut off her breasts regardless of them being really small or just a result of gynecomastia from hormone imbalance.

2) since the developer has her identify as a girl, it just made sense for him to assign the scene for her to be treated as a girl character.

3) the villagers simply didn't recognize she was a boy due to no penis and just punished her the same way they normally would, not taking the time to properly check, remember you can cut off a guys breasts, they still have them, even though it's mostly skin and abit of fat/muscle.

This discussion is pretty silly and it's annoying seeing anti trans bigots and dumb liberals that are trying to their stubborn views on this series when it's not as simple as that.

If I force a kid from birth to see themselves as the opposite, it's a high likelihood they will stay that way due to them being used to it, not because of their own brave choice that makes them happy, but because I manipulated them into it. Same can apply to everything from this subject to raising someone racist or sexist, there is a high likelihood this stuff sticks.

I hope people enjoy the game, I loved that Marinas gender was not shoved down the audience throat, there is far more interesting detail that can take priority over her gender, because if marina does not really care, neither should the audience, she's got bigger fish to fry then her own gender identity, which thankfully she is quite at peace with.
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Damn, look at all those free steam points in here...

Anyway wasn't this exact same discussion closed off yesterday?
RadioMars 19 Thg07, 2023 @ 12:37pm 
The length some people can go to explain that those two red pixels are actually a vagina. Sad
Tenebrus 4 Thg08, 2023 @ 2:52am 
Лол, Марина это парень, пендосы вы хуевы
I guess this is the reaction I expected from the forum-dwelling troglodytes to a trans character existing in a game, *sigh*
Mauman 13 Thg08, 2023 @ 10:18am 
Nguyên văn bởi <3 Willow <3:
I guess this is the reaction I expected from the forum-dwelling troglodytes to a trans character existing in a game, *sigh*
Pot, meet kettle.
Klampus 14 Thg08, 2023 @ 2:00am 
Hey cool, finally found a more annoying topic than "why is this game adults only."

Just let this thread die, please
High Caliber Hate 3 Thg01, 2024 @ 12:59am 
She's a dude.
blaque_czar 6 Thg01, 2024 @ 8:05pm 
Nguyên văn bởi rion:
trans women are women.
Transwomen are Transwomen and I have no issue with them living their best life, that should not include forcing their way into spaces designated for women, just like women nurtured these spaces, Transwomen should nurture their own spaces.
Klampus 6 Thg01, 2024 @ 11:35pm 
Nguyên văn bởi blaque_czar:
Transwomen are Transwomen and I have no issue with them living their best life, that should not include forcing their way into spaces designated for women, just like women nurtured these spaces, Transwomen should nurture their own spaces.

What are you even talking about? Are you alleging that the dev is trans? OR that Marina is some sort of sentient being that "forced their way" into the dev's game against their will?

What part of a video game is designated for women? What part of a fictional narrative in a VIDEO GAME are trans women allowed to appear?

Before you guys try shoving your politics down our throats, maybe try having a coherent thought first.
Keeby 12 Thg01, 2024 @ 9:55pm 
This whole forum is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cringe lol I was hoping for more nuanced takes on sexuality and gender but we have a bunch of straight male edgelords jerkin themselves off in here lmao.
Klampus 12 Thg01, 2024 @ 10:19pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Keeby:
This whole forum is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cringe lol I was hoping for more nuanced takes on sexuality and gender but we have a bunch of straight male edgelords jerkin themselves off in here lmao.

It's an internet forum for a video game...play ♥♥♥♥♥♥ games win ♥♥♥♥♥♥ prizes I guess (not that F&H games are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but you know what I mean)
14 Thg01, 2024 @ 2:17am 
Nguyên văn bởi rion:
trans women are women.
and when they dig up the corpse of a transgender woman, testing will show it was a man. you can change your body parts but not biology and nature. your bone structure alone, not even the dna(which would also show you as male) would identify you as the real gender.

you people need to stop pretending to be something you are not.
Lần sửa cuối bởi ; 14 Thg01, 2024 @ 2:24am
Klampus 14 Thg01, 2024 @ 2:43am 
Nguyên văn bởi Taint Snorkeler:

you people need to stop pretending to be something you are not.

Except that people do this all the time. So much so that it has become a common theme for books, movies, and *gasp* even video games like this one!

In fact, I bet you pretend as well. If you were to become moonscorched, what would the rest of us discover about you?
Maboi Laurence 14 Thg01, 2024 @ 3:12am 
Gamedev: confirms character is trans.
Gamers: "And I took that personally".


Next thing you are gonna do is tell me Marcoh didn't bang a dude even though it's heavily implied in game and even confirmed by the dev.
14 Thg01, 2024 @ 3:56am 
Nguyên văn bởi Klampus:
Nguyên văn bởi Taint Snorkeler:

you people need to stop pretending to be something you are not.

Except that people do this all the time. So much so that it has become a common theme for books, movies, and *gasp* even video games like this one!

In fact, I bet you pretend as well. If you were to become moonscorched, what would the rest of us discover about you?
next you will tell me people dress up as animals and bang.
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