is Rher Skin bible useful beyond recruiting the goat?

[bmmo.cor]

I know that you can use for the golden gates too, Im just curious if can open new possibilities

[Mauman]

Pine cone pig for life <_<

[Cullen]

I've taken a break from the game until the next update so I don't burn myself out on it, I gotta pick up that pig next time I do a refresher run.

[Elnidfse]

Diposting pertama kali oleh CuddilyWuddily:

Black Orb + Loving Whispers fail against Ending A Boss especially on Maso Mode because you can only make 1 spell greater, Betel Stones don't stack, and she has like legitimately 20,000hp or something.
Whatever you do you.

Double Orb and greater whispers still works on that boss even in Maso. Especially at the +40-+60 m.atk + meth and danse you can take into there and rev 3 whispers is a full heal you can stall out for an infinite amount of time if you so desired (i.e; you didn't save the lavender, flowers, and vodka)

Though ideally you'd burn stall with greater/double fog, first scorched, and greater/double combustion/trick/whispers and have it die before you're anywhere near out of condensed Lavender and however many brain flowers steal RNG gave you that run

Really the only times I'd say late maso melee is mandatory for somebody like Maso O'Saa (start dependent) whom is the character I'm basing my opinion on with the additional note that I didn't use arc, grinder, poison, save scummed bookshelfs or even bop heartless for my two finishes is platoon(s) and heartless herself. The former for obvious reasons and the latter because counter bleed/poisoning her to death is the safest way to fight her.

Though obviously the necessity varies depending on who you're playing and how you're pathing through your run. If you don't steal flowers and burn your lavenders and vodka then yeah you'll need to melee the final bosses.

[Elnidfse]

Diposting pertama kali oleh CuddilyWuddily:

Are you sure? She does 44 damage through a block and you only have 100hp and you only regen 10 mind a turn. Seems like in any grind game you're gonna run out of mind. Well I guess if you guard every turn with double actions you could make a profit of... 8 mind every 2 rounds and so after 4 rounds you can shoot one double black orb.

Red Virtue is still an very easy to obtain upgrade to Black Steel, which is what you'll be using with characters that can't use meat grinder. Just requires you to kill Olivia first.

Positive. I've done it before.

[Cullen]

I would like to point out that I did follow Cuddily's Marina guide for a Marina run, and I was able to kill Logic before it got to phase two by just spamming double black orb and black smog while occasionally downing Vodka and healing the Blood Golem, and I have no reason to suspect that tactic wouldn't work in Maso mode due to magic damage not being that much lower in Maso compared to physical attacks.