Empty Scrolls (A.K.A. Easy way to "level up")

[PieceButDeadly]

Has anyone found empty scrolls (and quills) yet? If so, how often do they drop, from crates and barrels? Also, are the writing commands (O LORD GIVE/TEACH "name of item or skill") the same?

[Leonardo Trapovich]

I don't think this game has those. Probably a function of the previous one

[Dwarfogus]

No scrolls and no quills

[Voronavirus]

Some guy in the russian thread below claims that there are blank scrolls and quills, but very rare. I haven't found any myself in a single playthrough with an "A" ending.

[Leonardo Trapovich]

I went through, like 5 or 6 runs and haven't found any

[Yung Venuz]

I don't imagine there are any, despite claims to the contrary. You can find a whole shelf of them in Donovan's house and it won't let you pick them up. 25h in, haven't found a single one I can use.

[Alan_Gu]

Originally posted by Voronavirus:

Some guy in the russian thread below claims that there are blank scrolls and quills, but very rare. I haven't found any myself in a single playthrough with an "A" ending.

it's PieceButDeadly who wrote about empty scrolls in that russian thread.
I don't think there are actually such items in the game. Altough there are "empty scroll" and "quill" items in the game datafiles. As well as "Cube of depths", "Ancient One soul" and other items from the previous game. I think Milo just create Termina data based on the first game so there are some leftovers that he didn't delete.

[Alan_Gu]

oh lol, i tried to modify "train cabin" map just like it was made in save mod.
but instead of Book of Enlightenmen i got x99 empty scrolls and quills.
empty scroll item icon is wrong (probably was deleted) but its functionality remains.
I asked for claymore and dagger... but was provided with a scalpel and an axe (item ID's is likely to be rewritten)
so next i tried to get "walk on water" skill and there is an empty line in my skill menu now.
it's a little buggy, but it is still working
https://imgur.com/a/vl1AqxR

[PieceButDeadly]

Originally posted by Alan_Gu:

oh lol, i tried to modify "train cabin" map just like it was made in save mod.
but instead of Book of Enlightenmen i got x99 empty scrolls and quills.
empty scroll item icon is wrong (probably was deleted) but it functionality remains.
I asked for claymore and dagger... but was provided with a scalpel and an axe (item ID's is likely to be rewritten)
so next i tried to get "walk on water" skill and there is an empty line in my skill menu now.
it's a little buggy, but it is still working
https://imgur.com/a/vl1AqxR

Heh, that's cool. This means that the technical functionality of the scroll has remained the same, albeit not without glitches.
Plus, the ability to edit and get such useful things greatly simplifies the game. But I wonder... how long will the game be officially updated, before the empty scrolls feature, can be ALSO OFFICIAL, without any issues or glitches?

[PieceButDeadly]

Originally posted by Alan_Gu:

oh lol, i tried to modify "train cabin" map just like it was made in save mod.
but instead of Book of Enlightenmen i got x99 empty scrolls and quills.
empty scroll item icon is wrong (probably was deleted) but its functionality remains.
I asked for claymore and dagger... but was provided with a scalpel and an axe (item ID's is likely to be rewritten)
so next i tried to get "walk on water" skill and there is an empty line in my skill menu now.
it's a little buggy, but it is still working
https://imgur.com/a/vl1AqxR

Besides, how did you do it? Directly through text editing? Or due to programs such as the same RPG maker (if through it, then what version?)?

[Alan_Gu]

text editing
go to the game folder, then "www" -> "data"
Backup your "Map014.map" file and replace it with the one in the archive
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14MbD8xW6WUm-Bc_nclGBIY21mSJqTVhc/view?usp=share_link
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To open something for editing in rpgmaker you need an original .project file, which Milo, of course, won't distribute,

[PieceButDeadly]

Originally posted by Alan_Gu:

text editing
go to the game folder, then "www" -> "data"
Backup your "Map014.map" file and replace it with the one in the archive
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14MbD8xW6WUm-Bc_nclGBIY21mSJqTVhc/view?usp=share_link
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To open something for editor in rpgmaker you need an original .project file, which Milo, of course, won't distribute,

Excellent!! Thank's man. Now, going through this hardcore stuff (i mean F&H2) will be much better.

[Alan_Gu]

after you metioned rpgMaker i tried that out once again. And got some results. Although it's not a perfect solusion. Even without .project file you can download rpgmaker MV from the official site (it has trial period) create an empty project and then replace all files with termina's files. Well, you need to convert all the encoded files first in order to see them in the editor. But you can just search in google for an image-converter.
That opens up a new way to inspect the game.
(I found the way rpgmaker deals with game events a bit funny comparing with other game-engines.)

i don't know whether it's it convinient way to creates some mods... but at least you can read the scripts to understand the game logic.
The most usefull part for me is the ability to create map images. It can be handy for the gamewiki (a full map of game locations sounds good).

https://imgur.com/a/XpNSN42