why cant we have the pacific!?

[Salmon Sashimi 刺身]

Im SO tired of germany. Cant we see the other side of the world??? where you know there was a major war going on???

[Dusan]

Origineel geplaatst door Sly Shrewman:

Origineel geplaatst door Dusan:

Your comment is two words too long. A totally unnecessary personal attack.

i dont like dealing with idiots

And I don't like reading toxic comments. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn't give you the right to respond in such a nasty way.

[BastardSword]

Origineel geplaatst door ChickenTacos:

A pacific game would just be small islands and hopping to and fro via ships. Sounds boring to me.

I've said many times on the SE5 board that an open world SE game set in a Pacific chain of islands would be epic. The US would often go around Japanese-held islands instead of invading them. What if one of these islands had some SECRET UBER NAZI TECH that Karl was sent in to investigate? Maybe some kind of new AA guns that needed satchel charges ASAP.

But it will never happen because it's not PC to see Japan as the bad guys. I was really hoping the Japanese officers and weapons in SE5 was them teasing a Pacifc setting in SE6, but again I bet it won't happen. I'd love to be wrong though.

[Shoah Kahn]

Open-world would be great -- in any theatre... They could even re-do the the games they've already done, in a Capcom-esque "re-make" fashion; only, with a contiguous map / open-world format. I've been bleating for years for the exampled developer's "re-makes" to introduce from innovation beyond yellow interactables and tiled HUD interface... But, alas.

However, that all comes back to the game engine, and I don't see the thing they've been using, periodically updated or otherwise (methinks, otherwise), being able to do open-world co-op.

[planbsurvivor]

That would be rad and I'd also love a more modern setting like the Cold War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, Post 9/11 Middle East, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep using WWII because they can do a lot of asset flipping like they do in their Zombie games.

[Major_Tom]

Origineel geplaatst door Sly Shrewman:

Im SO tired of germany. Cant we see the other side of the world??? where you know there was a major war going on???

We can't have the pacific because rebellion are greedy and fear that making anything new will lead to less sales. All you can expect from this game is more of the same. Bugs, microtransactions, and a kill hitler dlc.

[BastardSword]

Origineel geplaatst door Shoah Kahn:

However, that all comes back to the game engine, and I don't see the thing they've been using, periodically updated or otherwise (methinks, otherwise), being able to do open-world co-op.

Open world would be hard and I'm not surprised Rebellion don't seem interested. The only open-world sniping game I know of is Sniper Ghost Warrior 3, which was a lot of fun but also basically held together with duct tape. I still think it's a really fun game, and an unintended homage to fps games from the late 90s and early 00s. But the developers who made it complained a lot about how hard it was to make the game because it was open world, and that it drove down sales because of how unpolished the game was.

A company like Ubisoft can make open-world games like Far Cry 3/4/5/6 because they will spend a zillion dollars on it. A small independent developer like Rebellion is happy to just have a small team that makes a traditional level-based shooter.

[Valmirius]

They have a bunch of French photogrammetry they want to reuse

That's probably it really

But yes a change of scenery would be much more interesting

[Salmon Sashimi 刺身]

Origineel geplaatst door Valmirius:

They have a bunch of French photogrammetry they want to reuse

That's probably it really

But yes a change of scenery would be much more interesting

Yawn. Take me to the pacific

[Danuki Vtuber EN]

Origineel geplaatst door Tommy_Rebellion:

It's a good thing Sniper Elite: Resistance is set in France then 😉

FFS, you guys would make tons of money if you made game settings based on WW2 Asia. People are bored of just hunting down germans, give us something knew already. How about even a VR game set in the pacific conflict as well. Please at least talk to your company board about it

[Dusan]

Origineel geplaatst door Danuki The Tanuki:

FFS, you guys would make tons of money if you made game settings based on WW2 Asia. People are bored of just hunting down germans, give us something knew already. How about even a VR game set in the pacific conflict as well. Please at least talk to your company board about it

But Sniper Elite is about hunting Nazis and killing Hitler...
I'm not bored at all 😊
Instead of saying "people are bored of" you should say "I am bored of".

Personally, I'd like to see improvements in enemy AI, improvements in game mechanics, a game engine that allows for more populated maps etc. But not a totally different setting. It wouldn't be the same game series anymore.

[Major_Tom]

Origineel geplaatst door Dusan:

I'm not bored at all 😊
Instead of saying "people are bored of" you should say "I am bored of".

People are bored though. Your guilty of the very thing you are trying to accuse lol.

[♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀]

WWII has been done to death. Time to take the series to the rice paddies of Vietnam or somewhere else. Communists and Marxists are just as bad as Nazi's.

[Dusan]

Origineel geplaatst door Major_Tom:

Origineel geplaatst door Dusan:

I'm not bored at all 😊
Instead of saying "people are bored of" you should say "I am bored of".

People are bored though. Your guilty of the very thing you are trying to accuse lol.

No, I'm not guilty of the same thing that you suggest. I only spoke for myself, not for the very unspecific others. Who are the "people"? How many? Do you have any data to support the claim?

And going by these forums (that "some people" are not happy) is not good enough. Here people complain all the time which can make you think that everybody hates this game etc. But reality is very different when you look at the global statistics. On the global scale, people don't hate Sniper Elite 5 at all. It's just that the haters are very vocal here.

[Major_Tom]

Origineel geplaatst door Dusan:

Do you have any data to support the claim?

5 sold much fewer copies than 4. Physical sales were around 64% lower than 4. Digital stats are unknown but if you look at the number of reviews positive and negative between the two games there is a massive difference in numbers. This is why we are getting resistance. It is likely considerably cheaper to make as it reuses the assets from 5. It's pretty obvious people are sick of it, a lot of people.

[Dusan]

Origineel geplaatst door Major_Tom:

Origineel geplaatst door Dusan:

Do you have any data to support the claim?

5 sold much fewer copies than 4. Physical sales were around 64% lower than 4. Digital stats are unknown but if you look at the number of reviews positive and negative between the two games there is a massive difference in numbers. This is why we are getting resistance. It is likely considerably cheaper to make as it reuses the assets from 5. It's pretty obvious people are sick of it, a lot of people.

Interesting numbers, I wasn't aware there has been such a difference in sales.
On the other hand, SE4 has been available for much longer than SE5 and I'm sure that even the release of SE5 boosted the sales of SE4 which you can see also in the huge single peak of active players of SE4 in May 2022 when SE5 was released.
So SE5 helped SE4, but not the other way round obviously.
So this comparison isn't exactly fair.

Edit:
Also it's not obvious that people are specifically bored of WW2, Nazis, Hitler etc. and that switching to a different setting would help in any way. It could easily have a totally opposite effect.