Same engine from avp in 1999

[blogsg1]

My god this engine (asura) is older than beathesa’s creation engine. No wonder all rebellions games look the same and play the same. Do you think it should be gone. I’ve played all sniper elite games since sniper 2 and ending with 4 which i never finished. Got bored of playing the same game constantly. Any reason to come back for this one ? What do you think?

[Dusan]

That's like saying that Unreal Engine is the same old engine that Epic has used since 1998.

SE4 and SE5 definitely look quite different. I didn't play any of the previous games.

And if you managed to get bored with SE4 and never finish it, then no, there's no reason for you to come back for SE: Resistance.

[blogsg1]

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That's like saying that Unreal Engine is the same old engine that Epic has used since 1998.

SE4 and SE5 definitely look quite different. I didn't play any of the previous games.

And if you managed to get bored with SE4 and never finish it, then no, there's no reason for you to come back for SE: Resistance.

Straw man.

[blogsg1]

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That's like saying that Unreal Engine is the same old engine that Epic has used since 1998.

SE4 and SE5 definitely look quite different. I didn't play any of the previous games.

And if you managed to get bored with SE4 and never finish it, then no, there's no reason for you to come back for SE: Resistance.

I’m not talking about unreal engine 4 or 5. i’m talking about rebellions games which look and feel the same every single one of them since sniper elite 2. It’s like you are playing the same game, but with a different skin.

[Dusan]

I don't know about the earlier games but to me SE4 and SE5 looked and felt very different, to the point that I was quite upset about it at first.
And SE: Resistance is not supposed to be a totally reimagined gaming experience but rather a convenient bridge between SE5 and SE6 for people who want to keep themselves busy playing a new campaign rooted in SE5 while waiting for SE6.

[blogsg1]

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I don't know about the earlier games but to me SE4 and SE5 looked and felt very different, to the point that I was quite upset about it at first.
And SE: Resistance is not supposed to be a totally reimagined gaming experience but rather a convenient bridge between SE5 and SE6 for people who want to keep themselves busy playing a new campaign rooted in SE5 while waiting for SE6.

I can’t really talk about SE5 as Ive not played it so i will have to trust you on that one,but when i play any game rebellion has made in the past it just feels like i’m playing dlc from sniper elite 2. Whether it nazi zombie army 1,2,3,4 or strange brigade or sniper elite games 2,3 and 4. They all feel the same.it feels like the same game. I’m not saying they not good games. If you go back and play those game one after the other it will feel like you’re playing dlc.

[blogsg1]

It’s an old engine zero hair physics weather effects are basic, no clothes physics at all. And game mechanics look the same as the others. i would be surprised if these things are any different. I think it time for some innovation. new engine, new assets, new animations. Maybe some physics.

[Dusan]

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It’s an old engine zero hair physics weather effects are basic, no clothes physics at all. And game mechanics look the same as the others. i would be surprised if these things are any different. I think it time for some innovation. new engine, new assets, new animations. Maybe some physics.

These are nice-to-have features that are very costly to develop but add very VERY little to the game itself.

How close do you have to be to Karl to actually notice any hair movement on him? Waste of time and money that could have been spent on something else.

Features that are much more critical in a future SE game is better gameplay, better AI, more enemies, better level design and interesting and challenging situations that organically arise from all that.
Not visual bells and whistles that don't really add anything substantial to the game.

[mcc]

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It’s an old engine zero hair physics weather effects are basic, no clothes physics at all. And game mechanics look the same as the others. i would be surprised if these things are any different. I think it time for some innovation. new engine, new assets, new animations. Maybe some physics.

As the other user said:
Nice 2 have features - nothing more.

Btw:
Finish SE4 & then play SE5.
U will notice that gameplay etc. have changed a lil bit.
There is coop-invasion & more.

Obviously there must be some changes in graphics of SER.
Otherwise the minimum gfx card wouldn't be a 2060 RTX.

[Valmirius]

I agree that the engine needs an upgrade for the price these games cost, but even these games look better than Bethesda slop

[blogsg1]

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I agree that the engine needs an upgrade for the price these games cost, but even these games look better than Bethesda slop

True. Their engine cant cope even with a fully open world with no loading screens

[blogsg1]

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It’s an old engine zero hair physics weather effects are basic, no clothes physics at all. And game mechanics look the same as the others. i would be surprised if these things are any different. I think it time for some innovation. new engine, new assets, new animations. Maybe some physics.

As the other user said:
Nice 2 have features - nothing more.

Btw:
Finish SE4 & then play SE5.
U will notice that gameplay etc. have changed a lil bit.
There is coop-invasion & more.

Obviously there must be some changes in graphics of SER.
Otherwise the minimum gfx card wouldn't be a 2060 RTX.

Ok so i will finish 4 and i just got 5 in sale. I will come back when i’m done.

[Shoah Kahn]

I like the "sandbox-y" feel of the fully realised and loaded (not streamed) maps that this game engine offers. It hearkens back to playing with army men figurines as as kid, making models etc.. Having said that, if re-using the game engine is resulting in backwards steps -- the only thing I can think of to explain having less environment interactions in SE5 than in SE4 -- then it needs to be updated and/or go.

Zombie Army 4 almost seemed like a new or improved engine, given how polished it was... But, that may have just been product of its longer developmental gestation period; seeing as it had four "seasons" content added to it as an offshoot of being an temporary EGS exclusive. That, or it was a "A-team" who made that game, versus the "B-team" in SE5... dunno.

I'm satisfied with the game's look and overall gameplay; albeit, the characters' actions are becoming a tad "stiff" by today's standards. It's really just the environment interactions -- doors / windows, downpipes, vaulting, roof access, props, destruction -- which seem to be in stasis and/or regressing...

[RubbaKeys16k]

“No wonder all the games look the same”

Then….

“I haven’t played SE5”

WELL PLAY IT BEFORE COMMENTING!!!

SE5 is undeniably graphically superior to SE5.

A game engine from 1999 obviously couldn’t deliver what SE4 does, never mind SE5.

Stop trolling and spouting “alternative facts”. The entire thread is a nonsense.

[RubbaKeys16k]

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As the other user said:
Nice 2 have features - nothing more.

Btw:
Finish SE4 & then play SE5.
U will notice that gameplay etc. have changed a lil bit.
There is coop-invasion & more.

Obviously there must be some changes in graphics of SER.
Otherwise the minimum gfx card wouldn't be a 2060 RTX.

Ok so i will finish 4 and i just got 5 in sale. I will come back when i’m done.

Don’t bother. No one needs to hear any more from you.

[Dusan]

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Ok so i will finish 4 and i just got 5 in sale. I will come back when i’m done.

Don’t bother. No one needs to hear any more from you.

Come on, let's not be toxic like that.
Maybe he/she will have some interesting insights after that - there's always a chance ☺️